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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Recess-printed stamps - an expensive way of doing things?

 

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Guthrum
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21 Feb 2015
01:34:32pm
Most people I've encountered on stamp forums like recess printed stamps - they have a classy quality not evident in even the best litho stamps, and certainly not in the gaudy excesses of quite a lot of photogravure. Some people collect recess to the exclusion of all else. We don't get much in the way of recess in the UK, and I've often wondered why not.

Is it a matter of cost? Is the detailed work of the engraver so expensive as to make recess production unprofitable? Are photo and litho stamps simply far more easy to print and prepare for distribution?

Can anyone out there explain?

Meanwhile, here are some of my favourite recess printed stamps to look at.

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TuskenRaider
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21 Feb 2015
02:14:57pm
re: Recess-printed stamps - an expensive way of doing things?

Hi Guthrum;

I agree that they look much better than typographed, Lithographed or Photogravure. There is one
exception, for me tho that is a combination. Some stamps of Russia and Czechoslovakia from the
70s are my favorite. They use a combination of engraved and lithographed.

For example the Russian Ice Breakers, where they use engraving for the strong lines of the frame
and of the ships themselves, and for softer elements like the colors of the sky or the snow and ice
they use pastel colored inks and lithography.

This technique will obviously require two printing plates and is definitely not done for cost savings,
but for a superior looking work of art. Many if not all of their stamps from this period and several
decades for that matter are printed in this way. One thing for sure you can say is that US stamps
mostly suck, artistically speaking of course.

The Polish stamps you have there are nice looking and I enjoy collecting that country, Russia and
Czechoslovakia, not for their value or desirability to other collectors but just because I like them.
This is a hobby after all, and not an investment as some folks think.

Just some thoughts....
TuskenRaider

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21 Feb 2015
05:25:43pm
re: Recess-printed stamps - an expensive way of doing things?

The Lewis and Clark Bicentennial commemoratives, US Scott 3854-3856, are further examples of mixed printing. The frames are engraved; the vignettes are 5-color offset. IMHO, they are some of the most beautiful stamps the US has ever produced.

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17 Mar 2015
06:07:30pm
re: Recess-printed stamps - an expensive way of doing things?

The Czech and Slovak Republics - who share stamp production personnel and facilities - use combinations of engraved and lithographed printing and have produced some excellent stamps - usually as mini-sheets or souvenir sheets, but an occasional single stamp or set as well.

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USAFE7

17 Mar 2015
07:34:48pm
re: Recess-printed stamps - an expensive way of doing things?

@DouglasGPerry

"IMHO", what does this mean, I do not understand this?

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17 Mar 2015
07:54:23pm
re: Recess-printed stamps - an expensive way of doing things?

IMHO is internet shorthand for "in my humble opinion"

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Guthrum

21 Feb 2015
01:34:32pm

Most people I've encountered on stamp forums like recess printed stamps - they have a classy quality not evident in even the best litho stamps, and certainly not in the gaudy excesses of quite a lot of photogravure. Some people collect recess to the exclusion of all else. We don't get much in the way of recess in the UK, and I've often wondered why not.

Is it a matter of cost? Is the detailed work of the engraver so expensive as to make recess production unprofitable? Are photo and litho stamps simply far more easy to print and prepare for distribution?

Can anyone out there explain?

Meanwhile, here are some of my favourite recess printed stamps to look at.

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TuskenRaider

21 Feb 2015
02:14:57pm

re: Recess-printed stamps - an expensive way of doing things?

Hi Guthrum;

I agree that they look much better than typographed, Lithographed or Photogravure. There is one
exception, for me tho that is a combination. Some stamps of Russia and Czechoslovakia from the
70s are my favorite. They use a combination of engraved and lithographed.

For example the Russian Ice Breakers, where they use engraving for the strong lines of the frame
and of the ships themselves, and for softer elements like the colors of the sky or the snow and ice
they use pastel colored inks and lithography.

This technique will obviously require two printing plates and is definitely not done for cost savings,
but for a superior looking work of art. Many if not all of their stamps from this period and several
decades for that matter are printed in this way. One thing for sure you can say is that US stamps
mostly suck, artistically speaking of course.

The Polish stamps you have there are nice looking and I enjoy collecting that country, Russia and
Czechoslovakia, not for their value or desirability to other collectors but just because I like them.
This is a hobby after all, and not an investment as some folks think.

Just some thoughts....
TuskenRaider

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21 Feb 2015
05:25:43pm

re: Recess-printed stamps - an expensive way of doing things?

The Lewis and Clark Bicentennial commemoratives, US Scott 3854-3856, are further examples of mixed printing. The frames are engraved; the vignettes are 5-color offset. IMHO, they are some of the most beautiful stamps the US has ever produced.

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rvangorder

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17 Mar 2015
06:07:30pm

re: Recess-printed stamps - an expensive way of doing things?

The Czech and Slovak Republics - who share stamp production personnel and facilities - use combinations of engraved and lithographed printing and have produced some excellent stamps - usually as mini-sheets or souvenir sheets, but an occasional single stamp or set as well.

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USAFE7

17 Mar 2015
07:34:48pm

re: Recess-printed stamps - an expensive way of doing things?

@DouglasGPerry

"IMHO", what does this mean, I do not understand this?

DAVID THOMPSON
MSGT/USAF/RETIRED

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re: Recess-printed stamps - an expensive way of doing things?

IMHO is internet shorthand for "in my humble opinion"

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