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Discussion - Member to Member Sales - Research Center
I have a few, but it's not really my thing. Dealers try to get large premiums for them, even minor folds.
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Hi David;
My experience has taught me that there is a narrow niche market however small it may be, for just
about anything stamp related. That is where eBay is great because of the global exposure.
Somewhere, someone collects those, probably because they teach a lot about printing methods.
Thanks for sharing that gem with us.
Just driftin'....
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Here's my sole example of a preprint fold, on an R29c that I just received this week. I'd love to be able to identify the cancel, but it seems to be an impossible task in light of the scant information available. Please let me know if anyone happens to recognize the cancel.
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Beautiful proprietary medicine cancel. Not one I've seen before.
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Dan, when I bought this stamp, I was intrigued by the marking but wasn't sure what it was. Obviously, it was related to a patent medicine, but I didn't think it was a cancel because there was no date or company name or initials.
David, I did post the stamp and ask for ID help on the SCF discussion board, and received this response from someone who has been involved with revenues for many years and who sometimes expertizes revenues for the Philatelic Foundation: "It is a cancel. Some companies put the appropriate revenue on their labels and then used a large advertising cancel to tie it. The only way to see all of the cancel is to find one still on a label." He also commented that there was little useful information on the stamp itself as far as a company name, a location, or a date. So he could not ID it.
I have tried Google and Google Images using "patent medicine" and the terms visible or partially visible on the stamp: "inflammation," "colic," "sores" and (I think) "back" -- maybe "pain in the back." No luck so far. The problem seems to be that zillions of patent medicines claimed to cure multiple ailments. So it's like trying to find the proverbial needle in a haystack. If you can come up with anything, that would be fantastic.
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I love this cancellation and I've never seen anything like it. It would be awesome to have a collection of medical cancels!! I did my own research, and although I found some products that may have fit the bill, none of them reference having used postal cancellations for advertisements.
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Lisa, just to be clear, this was not a postal cancel. The stamp would have actually been on a medicine bottle or package, not a piece of mail, and represented the payment of a tax. So it would have been a proprietary (i.e., created by a private company) fiscal or revenue cancel.
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Some snake oil homeopathy pre-FDA elixir to fool the masses
(Treats)
Inflammation o(f the joints), Colic; cold sores, spondylosis in the back, gout
etc etc etc
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Thank you for the effort, David. 
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07:07:36am
@ rustyc
Thank you for the clarification...I still want one...or three...or eight 
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That's actually a fairly dramatic example. When it comes to preprint paper folds, the larger the separation due to spreading the fold, and the more dramatic the visual impact, the greater the collectibility and value.
I have a few, but it's not really my thing. Dealers try to get large premiums for them, even minor folds.
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re: R15C Pre Printing Fold
Hi David;
My experience has taught me that there is a narrow niche market however small it may be, for just
about anything stamp related. That is where eBay is great because of the global exposure.
Somewhere, someone collects those, probably because they teach a lot about printing methods.
Thanks for sharing that gem with us.
Just driftin'....
TuskenRaider
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re: R15C Pre Printing Fold
Here's my sole example of a preprint fold, on an R29c that I just received this week. I'd love to be able to identify the cancel, but it seems to be an impossible task in light of the scant information available. Please let me know if anyone happens to recognize the cancel.
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re: R15C Pre Printing Fold
Beautiful proprietary medicine cancel. Not one I've seen before.
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Dan, when I bought this stamp, I was intrigued by the marking but wasn't sure what it was. Obviously, it was related to a patent medicine, but I didn't think it was a cancel because there was no date or company name or initials.
David, I did post the stamp and ask for ID help on the SCF discussion board, and received this response from someone who has been involved with revenues for many years and who sometimes expertizes revenues for the Philatelic Foundation: "It is a cancel. Some companies put the appropriate revenue on their labels and then used a large advertising cancel to tie it. The only way to see all of the cancel is to find one still on a label." He also commented that there was little useful information on the stamp itself as far as a company name, a location, or a date. So he could not ID it.
I have tried Google and Google Images using "patent medicine" and the terms visible or partially visible on the stamp: "inflammation," "colic," "sores" and (I think) "back" -- maybe "pain in the back." No luck so far. The problem seems to be that zillions of patent medicines claimed to cure multiple ailments. So it's like trying to find the proverbial needle in a haystack. If you can come up with anything, that would be fantastic.
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18 Mar 2015
08:55:38am
re: R15C Pre Printing Fold
I love this cancellation and I've never seen anything like it. It would be awesome to have a collection of medical cancels!! I did my own research, and although I found some products that may have fit the bill, none of them reference having used postal cancellations for advertisements.
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re: R15C Pre Printing Fold
Lisa, just to be clear, this was not a postal cancel. The stamp would have actually been on a medicine bottle or package, not a piece of mail, and represented the payment of a tax. So it would have been a proprietary (i.e., created by a private company) fiscal or revenue cancel.
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re: R15C Pre Printing Fold
Some snake oil homeopathy pre-FDA elixir to fool the masses
(Treats)
Inflammation o(f the joints), Colic; cold sores, spondylosis in the back, gout
etc etc etc
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re: R15C Pre Printing Fold
Thank you for the effort, David.
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It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light. - Aristotle Onassis
19 Mar 2015
07:07:36am
re: R15C Pre Printing Fold
@ rustyc
Thank you for the clarification...I still want one...or three...or eight
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