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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : ring of pearls fancy cancel

 

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2010ccg

02 Mar 2015
11:00:18am
Good morning Stamporama people
I am wanting to add a fancy cancel (Ring of Pearls) to my postal history collection Can anyone tell me a bit of history and what a fair price would be to make such an a purchase ? I see a few on ebay but not too sure if those are fair prices...Guess it depends on how badly I want to acquire one
Cheryl
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USAFE7

02 Mar 2015
12:19:26pm
re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

Cheryl

Are you talking about the New York Post Office precancel starting with the first issue in 1879?

If this is the history you are looking for, see the 1925 edition of the "Handbook on Bureau and Local Precancels by Adolf Gunesch.

You might also want to read the 21 Jan 2015 at 10:42:03PM Hours discussion found under United States/Covers and Postmarks here at StampoRama.

If this is not your are asking about, then I have no idea what you are referring to. But I'd like to learn more about this.

DAVID THOMPSON
MSGT/USAF/RETIRED


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2010ccg

02 Mar 2015
02:52:07pm
re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

Thankyou good info I thought perhaps NY was the only city using the postmark They are also called the silent cancel or postmark... appreciate the help

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02 Mar 2015
07:19:29pm
re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

Very nice!

What do the String of Pearls precancels typically sell for?

David

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2010ccg

02 Mar 2015
08:37:38pm
re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

That is my question as well...On ebay I have seen several posted over the past 3 months and they don`t seem to be selling at the 40 to 50 dollar range.Are they listed and priced in any catalogue?

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05 Mar 2015
04:00:26pm
re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

According to my Hoover "Official Precancel Catalog (1940)" the regular values, meaning with the open top of the "Y" sideways to the right;
1¢, 2¢, 3¢, 5¢, 10¢, 30¢, and 50¢ were listed then at between 25¢ and $2.00

However there are ample varieties of each value depending on the position of the "Y", with the 1¢ having the "Y" both doubled and facing "UP" at a princely $4.00.

Since the USA #1 5¢ red brown (1847) was listed at $40 MNH or $9 Used in the 1939 catalog (Scott) perhaps an interesting Precancel increased proportionally.

Or not.

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06 Mar 2015
09:52:57am

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For an interesting discussion on Precanceled Postage Dues and ring of pearls, check out the latest on www.philamercury.com. Be sure to visit the link to the precancel exhibit.


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2010ccg

06 Mar 2015
10:18:51pm
re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

I tried the site you mentioned but I can not find the precancel exhibit you mentioned...Can you give us the correct title?

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07 Mar 2015
06:51:33am
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I don't see it either...

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07 Mar 2015
09:20:34am

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Since I am such an expert with computers,Rolling On The Floor LaughingTry the following. Go to the web page with the link that the moderators fixed for me. Click on Message Boards at the bottom of the page, go a little over half way down to a message posted by Richard Frajola on Mar 5,15 at 14:16 titled, "Ray's One Frame Exhibit". That should get it. If not the following is the link that I copied and it works for me. http://www.rfrajola.com/2k15/rp1.pdf.

Moderators, please feel free to fix the link so all you have to do is click it. Also if you would be so kind as to tell me how to post a link that works, I would appreciate it. Probably best to send info through SOR message system.

Thanks, Mel


(Modified by Moderator on 2015-03-07 09:37:00)

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07 Mar 2015
09:42:35am
re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

It's actually easier if I post it here so I can show you an image. Once you put in your link, highlight it and click the "Link" button at the bottom. You will then see the HTML code for the link around the URL. Does that make sense?

Image Not Found

Let me know if you have any other questions!
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07 Mar 2015
09:59:33am

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Lisa

Thank you so much. I knew it was probably pretty simple, but I tend to make mountains out of mole hills when it comes to computers.

Again thanks.

Mel

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2010ccg

07 Mar 2015
06:33:46pm
re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

Thankyou This is an awesome article. I collect precancels and this information is very much appreciated!
Cheryl

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2010ccg

02 Mar 2015
11:00:18am

Good morning Stamporama people
I am wanting to add a fancy cancel (Ring of Pearls) to my postal history collection Can anyone tell me a bit of history and what a fair price would be to make such an a purchase ? I see a few on ebay but not too sure if those are fair prices...Guess it depends on how badly I want to acquire one
Cheryl

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USAFE7

02 Mar 2015
12:19:26pm

re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

Cheryl

Are you talking about the New York Post Office precancel starting with the first issue in 1879?

If this is the history you are looking for, see the 1925 edition of the "Handbook on Bureau and Local Precancels by Adolf Gunesch.

You might also want to read the 21 Jan 2015 at 10:42:03PM Hours discussion found under United States/Covers and Postmarks here at StampoRama.

If this is not your are asking about, then I have no idea what you are referring to. But I'd like to learn more about this.

DAVID THOMPSON
MSGT/USAF/RETIRED


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2010ccg

02 Mar 2015
02:52:07pm

re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

Thankyou good info I thought perhaps NY was the only city using the postmark They are also called the silent cancel or postmark... appreciate the help

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02 Mar 2015
07:19:29pm

re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

Very nice!

What do the String of Pearls precancels typically sell for?

David

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2010ccg

02 Mar 2015
08:37:38pm

re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

That is my question as well...On ebay I have seen several posted over the past 3 months and they don`t seem to be selling at the 40 to 50 dollar range.Are they listed and priced in any catalogue?

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
05 Mar 2015
04:00:26pm

re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

According to my Hoover "Official Precancel Catalog (1940)" the regular values, meaning with the open top of the "Y" sideways to the right;
1¢, 2¢, 3¢, 5¢, 10¢, 30¢, and 50¢ were listed then at between 25¢ and $2.00

However there are ample varieties of each value depending on the position of the "Y", with the 1¢ having the "Y" both doubled and facing "UP" at a princely $4.00.

Since the USA #1 5¢ red brown (1847) was listed at $40 MNH or $9 Used in the 1939 catalog (Scott) perhaps an interesting Precancel increased proportionally.

Or not.

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06 Mar 2015
09:52:57am

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re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

For an interesting discussion on Precanceled Postage Dues and ring of pearls, check out the latest on www.philamercury.com. Be sure to visit the link to the precancel exhibit.


(Modified by Moderator on 2015-03-07 06:48:53)

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2010ccg

06 Mar 2015
10:18:51pm

re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

I tried the site you mentioned but I can not find the precancel exhibit you mentioned...Can you give us the correct title?

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It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light. - Aristotle Onassis
07 Mar 2015
06:51:33am

re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

I don't see it either...

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"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. - Maya Angelou"

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mbo1142

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07 Mar 2015
09:20:34am

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re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

Since I am such an expert with computers,Rolling On The Floor LaughingTry the following. Go to the web page with the link that the moderators fixed for me. Click on Message Boards at the bottom of the page, go a little over half way down to a message posted by Richard Frajola on Mar 5,15 at 14:16 titled, "Ray's One Frame Exhibit". That should get it. If not the following is the link that I copied and it works for me. http://www.rfrajola.com/2k15/rp1.pdf.

Moderators, please feel free to fix the link so all you have to do is click it. Also if you would be so kind as to tell me how to post a link that works, I would appreciate it. Probably best to send info through SOR message system.

Thanks, Mel


(Modified by Moderator on 2015-03-07 09:37:00)

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07 Mar 2015
09:42:35am

re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

It's actually easier if I post it here so I can show you an image. Once you put in your link, highlight it and click the "Link" button at the bottom. You will then see the HTML code for the link around the URL. Does that make sense?

Image Not Found

Let me know if you have any other questions!
Lisa
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"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. - Maya Angelou"

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mbo1142

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07 Mar 2015
09:59:33am

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re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

Lisa

Thank you so much. I knew it was probably pretty simple, but I tend to make mountains out of mole hills when it comes to computers.

Again thanks.

Mel

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2010ccg

07 Mar 2015
06:33:46pm

re: ring of pearls fancy cancel

Thankyou This is an awesome article. I collect precancels and this information is very much appreciated!
Cheryl

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