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08 Mar 2015
02:34:03pm
Has anyone ever seen a stamp commemorating the symbol pi?
Next week we celebrate the one TRUE pi day a CENTURY: 3. 14 15 (to decimal 4)
So it occurred to me that I have never seen the symbol pi on a commemorative stamp, except as a symbol on a greek stamp that i can no longer locate.

For those who don't know it, Pi has been calculated to over one trillion digits beyond its decimal point. As an irrational and transcendental number, it will continue infinitely without repetition or pattern. While only a handful of digits are needed for typical calculations, Pi’s infinite nature makes it a fun challenge to memorize....well at least the first 100 digitsBig Grin..

I searched on Google, and this is something trivial of possible interest (or not).
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"Zazzle.com Pi Stamp
The mathematical symbol for pi

If you haven't looked at your calendar yet, today is Pi Day. This is the day in which the month and day of the calendar is 3/14, the first three digits to the mathematical formula for pi (3.14...).

Before I go any further, I want to ask you a puzzle that relates to pi.

Suppose you could put a steel band tightly around the equator of Earth. Assume, for the sake of this puzzle, that the earth is perfectly round, without hills or valleys, and that the steel band would make a exact circle around Earth where it is touching the surface evenly. Then, you take a cutting torch, open up a gap in this band, and weld in exactly 1 extra meter (for non-metric readers, approximately 1 yard) of metal.

Question -- how high would this extra meter of material allow the band to be raised, evenly, throughout the entire circumference of the earth. If you haven't heard this question before, the answer, provided below, will likely amaze you.

I have searched through various websites trying to find stamps that portray the symbol for pi, but have came up virtually empty-handed. I have yet to find a postage stamp, issued by a postal authority, with such an image.

I did find several representations of pi on stamps designed by Zazzle.com. For readers who have never heard of Zazzle, the company markets metered stamps with custom images that are valid for postage in several countries. Technically the stamps are metered stamps -- the barcoding on the stamp is what identifies the stamp as valid postage for the United States Postal Service -- the picture is just an add-on. Customers can provide their own images for the pictorial image on the stamp or purchase them with pre-made images.

Zazzle makes up various designs and sells them. They have several images with pi on them, including the two represented here.


Zazzle.com Pi Stamp
Pi to 80 decimal places

Are there any pi stamps issued by postal agencies and not companies like Zazzle? Maybe readers can provide another example, but a quick search through websites dedicated to stamps featuring mathematical-related terms failed to turn up an example.


Now, back to the puzzle. The steel band would be raised approximately 1/6th of a meter (approximately 6 inches for non-metric readers) above the surface of the earth! And even more amazingly, it doesn't matter what the diameter of the round surface is -- from something as small as a pea or as large as the sun -- the result is the same -- the band will be raised about 1/6th of a meter larger than the object in all cases.

For those who might doubt this, here is how the solution is determined. My apologies to mathematicians everywhere!

The circumference of an item is equal to the diameter of the object multiplied by pi. When you add one meter of material to the steel band, you are adding 1 meter to the circumference. Since pi is approximately 3, then the one meter of extra circumference increases the diameter of the circle by about 1/3 meter -- 1/3 meter in diameter * pi (approx. 3) yields approximately 1 meter in circumference. So by adding 1 meter to the steel band, we are, in effect, increasing the diameter of the band by 1/3 meter. This yields a radius increase of 1/6th meter (diameter = 2 times the radius). Thus approximately 1/6th of a meter is how much the steel band is raised from surface at any one spot.

For those who prefer their numbers more precise, divide the 1 meter by an approximation of pi (3.141592...) and you get 0.318309... of a meter for the increase in diameter, which yields 0.159159... of a meter increase in the radius.


Happy Pi Day!




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What other mathematical symbols or equations are featured on stamps? e=mc^2 comes to mind...but what else?
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08 Mar 2015
02:39:09pm
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France Fermat Theorem stamp of 2001 comes to mind.

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08 Mar 2015
03:36:58pm
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The solution to Fermats Last Theorem proven 300 years later in 1995

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Pythagorean Theorem

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Archimedes Pi

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Euler polyhedral formula

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Might know this one

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Neils Bohr atomic theory

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08 Mar 2015
08:39:11pm
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Here is another one. Featuring Fractals, and in particular Julia set fractals:
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Curious how few stamps feature Scientific related topics such as Mathematics, Physics etc..except for the Nobels. Compare this to the popular subjects, musicians, artists, athletes, birds, military, etc...

And we are surprised by the lack of general scientific awareness!

Actually, I found an interesting compilation: http://www.fb-web-tutor.com/hobby/mathematics-on-stamps/

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09 Mar 2015
03:50:44am
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Here's another good site covering all things mathematical:

http://jeff560.tripod.com/stamps.html

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09 Mar 2015
04:50:54am

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After looking at the website Jill gave the link for, I think that the earlier conclusion that there are not that many stamps about mathematics etc. can be modified.
Even though some of the choices are a bit dubious (Escher and Durer were artists primarily, for instance), it will be quite a task collecting all the stamps in that list.

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09 Mar 2015
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By the way, this Pi Day thing can only be celebrated in the USA, as in most other countries dates are written dd-mm-yy and not mm-dd-yy
The first possible Pi Day for us will therefore be 3 January 2041

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09 Mar 2015
06:54:07am
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I think everyone in the US should turn in a circle on March 14, 2015 at 9:26:53 AM (3.1415692653). Or eat a pie! Happy

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09 Mar 2015
07:15:46am
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I like pie, it's much easier to digest than pi.

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09 Mar 2015
07:45:33am
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I also vote for pie - some rhubarb pie would be very nice!

One problem with having a pie day this year is that 3.14 15 is not a particularly good approximation for pi.

Next year, 3.14 16, would be better.


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09 Mar 2015
10:33:27am
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I LOVE to bake and that sounds like a good day to bake pies! Those who want their pie to celebrate pi, come on over!

Now should I make key lime, lemon, apple, pecan, pumpkin or something else? Sorry but no rhubarb is available right now and I've never seen it in the freezer section at Publix. Any other votes?

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09 Mar 2015
10:51:30am
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Blackberry and Apple would be good, especially with wild blackberries you just picked. which just reminded me of the Ronnie Corbett sketch in the fruiterers.
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09 Mar 2015
10:55:05am
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Uh, I actually meant Pizza! LOL!

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09 Mar 2015
01:31:13pm
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I was wondering why wild blackberries taste so much better than supermarket blackberries? And now I'm wondering about tomatoes. Hmm....

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09 Mar 2015
01:43:38pm
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HappyOne of my favourites is pear pie.Happy

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09 Mar 2015
02:06:59pm
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@ Copy55555, the wild blackberries actually have flavour, the supermarket ones are bred/cultivated to be a large uniform size and are rarely ripened on the cane. As with so many of our products they are mostly tasteless because of the demands from supermarket chains for product that has a shelf life of a week or more instead of a day or two.
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09 Mar 2015
04:48:51pm
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Knowing something about people here, I was afraid we would eventually end up in Pie rather than Pi discussion. And stay there!
So: For all you hungry cooks out there, read on, and check the recipe link: https://www.penzeys.com/search/#?q=pie

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The Mathematics of Caring
In case you missed it, since the first three digits of the mathematical constant pi are 3.14, March 14th is now celebrated as Pi Day. So for this catalog we have some good pie recipes. One of the great things about cooking is the way it works to pass on a better future. These days when it comes to climate change and so many other areas, there is no bigger obstacle to passing on that better future than the organized effort to create doubt about the science and math needed for good policy making. So we thought it might be both fun and fitting to seek out stories and pie recipes from people of science and math who have the information we actually need. My hope is to make this an annual event. I think we are off to a good start.
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and a politically engaged letter:

"Subj: We need your help

The Pi Day of the century, 3.14/15 is only a little over a week away. For a time now Pi Day has been all about fun and of course pie, but with the way in recent years, science and even reality itself have come more and more under attack, I’m thinking maybe this year it’s time for Pi Day to emerge as something more than just fun.
For so much of our history, the people of our country and the world have benefited greatly from the science-based reality that has shaped America’s future. Science may be based on numbers, but science's actual value is in its humanity. It's beyond doubt that through science and the honest representation of reality our lives have become safer, healthier and happier.
Yet today the very science that has done so much to reduce suffering in our lives is now under attack. From the climate, to vaccines, to Wisconsin's own Governor Walker’s belief that there are more votes in denying evolution than there are in embracing it, clearly somewhere something has gone very wrong. There is more than enough blame to go all around for how we got here, but maybe this is one of those times that where we are is not nearly as important as where we need to be.
Maybe rather than a debate of our differences, what we need is a celebration of what we share. At Penzeys we think Pi Day could grow into just the holiday we need. There really is no time to lose to get on to celebrating the truth of science-based reality and the math behind it. And there is also no time better than now to get back to celebrating the kindness, compassion and the nurturing nature of our shared humanity that has always been behind the very best that science has brought to our lives.
In Pi, the number is all the value and beauty and wonder that is at the heart of the reality science holds. In the gift of a good slice of pie, the desert is all the kindness and compassion that our shared humanity encompasses. Pi Day really is ready to become so much more. And could there be a better day to relaunch Pi Day as the holiday we truly need than 3.14/15; the Pi Day of the Century?
So we are reaching out to our customers for help. We need your stories and a recipe or two. We already have good stories in the works for living with climate change, the value of vaccines, evolution, and the psychology/brain chemistry of why as humans we are so resistant to seeing the certainty of climate change.
Where we still really need your help is in finding an economist or two to speak to why our deficit spending has left our economy and our humanity in so much better shape than what Europe is facing today. And we could also use one more person with the knowledge to speak to the monetary cost and the human cost of sending to prison people who simply need treatment instead.
For recipes we are flexible. Pies are great but not necessary. Maybe you have another baked good you like to share. Or possibly you have a way you like to make some other circular item: a sliced carrot recipe, scallops are always popular, or even a beet salad that's an old family tradition would do the trick. We really are flexible.
The important thing is if you have the science, or the numbers, or the knowledge that is needed for good policy making in the fields of economics or restorative justice please actually contact us. Don't wait for someone else to do it. Just email a phone number where we can reach you and I will have one of our friendly writers give you a call.
It's time to get off the sidelines. We can't let science and all the goodness it can bring to our lives be a victim of our cultural wars. I don't mean to be overly dramatic, but the future really is at stake here. With your help 3.14/15 could be the turning point the world so very much needs.
We realize we are looking for a needle in a haystack here, and on short notice. If you know someone who fits what we are looking for, please forward this email to them, or better yet, give them a call.
Thanks,
Bill Penzey "



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09 Mar 2015
08:36:19pm
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Hi Everyone;

I'm going to bake a wild Michigan Huckleberry pie. I picked and froze a bunch of them last
July when we had a bumper crop of them up here.

Also stump mushrooms grow by the bushel in my yard just 25 feet from my back door. I
never need to buy at the store. They are great in homemade pot pies. Do pot pies count? Thinking

Just munchin'....
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09 Mar 2015
09:17:04pm
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Penzey's is an awesome spice company - I order from them regularly. Good stuff!

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10 Mar 2015
08:10:16am
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Hmmm...I actually don't know if this is on topic or off topic now...

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10 Mar 2015
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I was born at 9:26am.

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11 Mar 2015
12:42:18am
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"I actually don't know if this is on topic or off topic now"



Lisa, you probably got pi in the eye. That's why.

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11 Mar 2015
05:33:50am
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I see how Ralph posted twice in the original post, then added two more replies, doubling his posts here about pi.

You might say, Pi rrrrrr squared.

Big Grin

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11 Mar 2015
06:29:45am
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"Lisa, you probably got pi in the eye. That's why."


"In Napoli where love is king
When boy meets girl here's what they say
When the moon hits your eye like a big
pizza pi
That's amore"

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11 Mar 2015
02:28:15pm
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"Pi rrrrrr squared."



Pi are not squared. Pi are round!

I decided last night to bake a Pecan Pie on Saturday.

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11 Mar 2015
02:49:20pm
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Lars, if only you made two pecan delights, then I could post that a mathematician pirate would remark:

"Two Pi! Arrrrr!"

(so I did it anyway)

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13 Mar 2015
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My wife made up T-shirts for me and the boys. I'll post photos tomorrow, but it's a busy day tomorrow with baking a pie, then a basketball game one of the boys is playing in, then Pinewood Derby.

I heard so many LAME definitions of what Pi is and why tomorrow is special on the networks this morning. Why could they not simply say this:

"Pi is the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter. In other words, multiply Pi by the diameter (distance across the middle) to find the circumference (distance around the outside) of the circle. Pi is also use to calculate the area of a circle with the familiar Pi x r squared. Pi is often approximated as 3.14 for simple calculations, but Pi is actually an indeterminate number that begins 3.14159265359, so 3-14-15 at 9:26 is a once in a lifetime Pi moment. 3-14 will always be Pi day EVERY year, but this one is special. "



Was it really THAT hard to say it that way? There's no reason to turn this into Calculus!

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13 Mar 2015
07:11:04pm
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""Two Pi! Arrrrr!""



Peter,

Now you're getting into radians. Very clever!

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13 Mar 2015
08:41:40pm
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"3-14-15 at 9:26 is a once in a lifetime Pi moment. 3-14 will always be Pi day EVERY year, but this one is special. "
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Technically, the "pure" once in a lifetime pi day would be March 14, 1592 at 6:53:59 hours.
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13 Mar 2015
10:28:49pm
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And I thought Washinton/Franklin identification was complicated. I have stumbled into a den of Sheldons.

Larsdog is correct though. Pie are round, cornbread are square.

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13 Mar 2015
11:10:31pm
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What about cobbler? It's square and a scrambled pie. More or less.......

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13 Mar 2015
11:57:58pm
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Let us see who can post on this board EXACTLY on 3-14-15 9:26
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Sharing my pie with you. Technically, is a clafouti a pie or a semi-pie?
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14 Mar 2015
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"Technically, the "pure" once in a lifetime pi day would be March 14, 1592 at 6:53:59 hours."



More than once in a life time, Peter...ONCE FOREVER (until we can time travel)!
Still this one coming up is a good one!
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"Let us see who can post on this board EXACTLY on 3-14-15 9:26
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You read my mind! LOL!

I have my piece of cold pizza pie ready and waiting to hit Submit at 9:26 this morning. Remember Ralph, this is SOR time, so Eastern Daylight Savings Time; that's 6:26 AM for you in San Francisco, 14:26 hours for Nigel, etc.

Peter (three hours to go!)
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What a discussion! It really doesn't take much to keep a bunch of nerds happily chatting away!

- Bobby (your nerdy moderator) Big Grin

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14 Mar 2015
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Posting!

Egads! My clock is not in sync with SOR! Missed it by four minutes. Will have to wait until March 14 2016 for the rounded up version now.

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14 Mar 2015
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Just woke up...WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Thanks Peter. Darn Eastern time!
Must be all this cold white stuff that is slowing down the time out East (quoting Senator Inhofe...our Science expert).

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At precisely 9:26 local I was pulling two Pecan pies from the oven. As Peter pointed out, it takes two pi (radians) to go full circle!

Working on downloading photo from iPhone video now!

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Happy Pi Day everyone! My son is holding an iPhone app with the time from the Atomic Clock in Colorado displayed in local time. You can't see it from the reduced image, but the time is precisely 9:26:53 local and those pies were pulled from the oven less than 10 seconds before this screen grab. (I had my wife shoot a video so I could be sure to get an image down to the second. I think I should have used an iPad instead of an iPhone to display the Atomic Clock)!

My wife also made up the T-shirts for us as a surprise. How cool is that?!?

And yes, Peter, it takes two pi to come full circle!

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Has anyone ever seen a stamp commemorating the symbol pi?
Next week we celebrate the one TRUE pi day a CENTURY: 3. 14 15 (to decimal 4)
So it occurred to me that I have never seen the symbol pi on a commemorative stamp, except as a symbol on a greek stamp that i can no longer locate.

For those who don't know it, Pi has been calculated to over one trillion digits beyond its decimal point. As an irrational and transcendental number, it will continue infinitely without repetition or pattern. While only a handful of digits are needed for typical calculations, Pi’s infinite nature makes it a fun challenge to memorize....well at least the first 100 digitsBig Grin..

I searched on Google, and this is something trivial of possible interest (or not).
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"Zazzle.com Pi Stamp
The mathematical symbol for pi

If you haven't looked at your calendar yet, today is Pi Day. This is the day in which the month and day of the calendar is 3/14, the first three digits to the mathematical formula for pi (3.14...).

Before I go any further, I want to ask you a puzzle that relates to pi.

Suppose you could put a steel band tightly around the equator of Earth. Assume, for the sake of this puzzle, that the earth is perfectly round, without hills or valleys, and that the steel band would make a exact circle around Earth where it is touching the surface evenly. Then, you take a cutting torch, open up a gap in this band, and weld in exactly 1 extra meter (for non-metric readers, approximately 1 yard) of metal.

Question -- how high would this extra meter of material allow the band to be raised, evenly, throughout the entire circumference of the earth. If you haven't heard this question before, the answer, provided below, will likely amaze you.

I have searched through various websites trying to find stamps that portray the symbol for pi, but have came up virtually empty-handed. I have yet to find a postage stamp, issued by a postal authority, with such an image.

I did find several representations of pi on stamps designed by Zazzle.com. For readers who have never heard of Zazzle, the company markets metered stamps with custom images that are valid for postage in several countries. Technically the stamps are metered stamps -- the barcoding on the stamp is what identifies the stamp as valid postage for the United States Postal Service -- the picture is just an add-on. Customers can provide their own images for the pictorial image on the stamp or purchase them with pre-made images.

Zazzle makes up various designs and sells them. They have several images with pi on them, including the two represented here.


Zazzle.com Pi Stamp
Pi to 80 decimal places

Are there any pi stamps issued by postal agencies and not companies like Zazzle? Maybe readers can provide another example, but a quick search through websites dedicated to stamps featuring mathematical-related terms failed to turn up an example.


Now, back to the puzzle. The steel band would be raised approximately 1/6th of a meter (approximately 6 inches for non-metric readers) above the surface of the earth! And even more amazingly, it doesn't matter what the diameter of the round surface is -- from something as small as a pea or as large as the sun -- the result is the same -- the band will be raised about 1/6th of a meter larger than the object in all cases.

For those who might doubt this, here is how the solution is determined. My apologies to mathematicians everywhere!

The circumference of an item is equal to the diameter of the object multiplied by pi. When you add one meter of material to the steel band, you are adding 1 meter to the circumference. Since pi is approximately 3, then the one meter of extra circumference increases the diameter of the circle by about 1/3 meter -- 1/3 meter in diameter * pi (approx. 3) yields approximately 1 meter in circumference. So by adding 1 meter to the steel band, we are, in effect, increasing the diameter of the band by 1/3 meter. This yields a radius increase of 1/6th meter (diameter = 2 times the radius). Thus approximately 1/6th of a meter is how much the steel band is raised from surface at any one spot.

For those who prefer their numbers more precise, divide the 1 meter by an approximation of pi (3.141592...) and you get 0.318309... of a meter for the increase in diameter, which yields 0.159159... of a meter increase in the radius.


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What other mathematical symbols or equations are featured on stamps? e=mc^2 comes to mind...but what else?
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France Fermat Theorem stamp of 2001 comes to mind.

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The solution to Fermats Last Theorem proven 300 years later in 1995

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Pythagorean Theorem

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Archimedes Pi

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Euler polyhedral formula

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Here is another one. Featuring Fractals, and in particular Julia set fractals:
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Curious how few stamps feature Scientific related topics such as Mathematics, Physics etc..except for the Nobels. Compare this to the popular subjects, musicians, artists, athletes, birds, military, etc...

And we are surprised by the lack of general scientific awareness!

Actually, I found an interesting compilation: http://www.fb-web-tutor.com/hobby/mathematics-on-stamps/

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Here's another good site covering all things mathematical:

http://jeff560.tripod.com/stamps.html

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After looking at the website Jill gave the link for, I think that the earlier conclusion that there are not that many stamps about mathematics etc. can be modified.
Even though some of the choices are a bit dubious (Escher and Durer were artists primarily, for instance), it will be quite a task collecting all the stamps in that list.

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By the way, this Pi Day thing can only be celebrated in the USA, as in most other countries dates are written dd-mm-yy and not mm-dd-yy
The first possible Pi Day for us will therefore be 3 January 2041

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I think everyone in the US should turn in a circle on March 14, 2015 at 9:26:53 AM (3.1415692653). Or eat a pie! Happy

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I like pie, it's much easier to digest than pi.

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I also vote for pie - some rhubarb pie would be very nice!

One problem with having a pie day this year is that 3.14 15 is not a particularly good approximation for pi.

Next year, 3.14 16, would be better.


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I LOVE to bake and that sounds like a good day to bake pies! Those who want their pie to celebrate pi, come on over!

Now should I make key lime, lemon, apple, pecan, pumpkin or something else? Sorry but no rhubarb is available right now and I've never seen it in the freezer section at Publix. Any other votes?

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Blackberry and Apple would be good, especially with wild blackberries you just picked. which just reminded me of the Ronnie Corbett sketch in the fruiterers.
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Uh, I actually meant Pizza! LOL!

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09 Mar 2015
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I was wondering why wild blackberries taste so much better than supermarket blackberries? And now I'm wondering about tomatoes. Hmm....

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HappyOne of my favourites is pear pie.Happy

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@ Copy55555, the wild blackberries actually have flavour, the supermarket ones are bred/cultivated to be a large uniform size and are rarely ripened on the cane. As with so many of our products they are mostly tasteless because of the demands from supermarket chains for product that has a shelf life of a week or more instead of a day or two.
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Knowing something about people here, I was afraid we would eventually end up in Pie rather than Pi discussion. And stay there!
So: For all you hungry cooks out there, read on, and check the recipe link: https://www.penzeys.com/search/#?q=pie

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The Mathematics of Caring
In case you missed it, since the first three digits of the mathematical constant pi are 3.14, March 14th is now celebrated as Pi Day. So for this catalog we have some good pie recipes. One of the great things about cooking is the way it works to pass on a better future. These days when it comes to climate change and so many other areas, there is no bigger obstacle to passing on that better future than the organized effort to create doubt about the science and math needed for good policy making. So we thought it might be both fun and fitting to seek out stories and pie recipes from people of science and math who have the information we actually need. My hope is to make this an annual event. I think we are off to a good start.
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"Subj: We need your help

The Pi Day of the century, 3.14/15 is only a little over a week away. For a time now Pi Day has been all about fun and of course pie, but with the way in recent years, science and even reality itself have come more and more under attack, I’m thinking maybe this year it’s time for Pi Day to emerge as something more than just fun.
For so much of our history, the people of our country and the world have benefited greatly from the science-based reality that has shaped America’s future. Science may be based on numbers, but science's actual value is in its humanity. It's beyond doubt that through science and the honest representation of reality our lives have become safer, healthier and happier.
Yet today the very science that has done so much to reduce suffering in our lives is now under attack. From the climate, to vaccines, to Wisconsin's own Governor Walker’s belief that there are more votes in denying evolution than there are in embracing it, clearly somewhere something has gone very wrong. There is more than enough blame to go all around for how we got here, but maybe this is one of those times that where we are is not nearly as important as where we need to be.
Maybe rather than a debate of our differences, what we need is a celebration of what we share. At Penzeys we think Pi Day could grow into just the holiday we need. There really is no time to lose to get on to celebrating the truth of science-based reality and the math behind it. And there is also no time better than now to get back to celebrating the kindness, compassion and the nurturing nature of our shared humanity that has always been behind the very best that science has brought to our lives.
In Pi, the number is all the value and beauty and wonder that is at the heart of the reality science holds. In the gift of a good slice of pie, the desert is all the kindness and compassion that our shared humanity encompasses. Pi Day really is ready to become so much more. And could there be a better day to relaunch Pi Day as the holiday we truly need than 3.14/15; the Pi Day of the Century?
So we are reaching out to our customers for help. We need your stories and a recipe or two. We already have good stories in the works for living with climate change, the value of vaccines, evolution, and the psychology/brain chemistry of why as humans we are so resistant to seeing the certainty of climate change.
Where we still really need your help is in finding an economist or two to speak to why our deficit spending has left our economy and our humanity in so much better shape than what Europe is facing today. And we could also use one more person with the knowledge to speak to the monetary cost and the human cost of sending to prison people who simply need treatment instead.
For recipes we are flexible. Pies are great but not necessary. Maybe you have another baked good you like to share. Or possibly you have a way you like to make some other circular item: a sliced carrot recipe, scallops are always popular, or even a beet salad that's an old family tradition would do the trick. We really are flexible.
The important thing is if you have the science, or the numbers, or the knowledge that is needed for good policy making in the fields of economics or restorative justice please actually contact us. Don't wait for someone else to do it. Just email a phone number where we can reach you and I will have one of our friendly writers give you a call.
It's time to get off the sidelines. We can't let science and all the goodness it can bring to our lives be a victim of our cultural wars. I don't mean to be overly dramatic, but the future really is at stake here. With your help 3.14/15 could be the turning point the world so very much needs.
We realize we are looking for a needle in a haystack here, and on short notice. If you know someone who fits what we are looking for, please forward this email to them, or better yet, give them a call.
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Bill Penzey "



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Hi Everyone;

I'm going to bake a wild Michigan Huckleberry pie. I picked and froze a bunch of them last
July when we had a bumper crop of them up here.

Also stump mushrooms grow by the bushel in my yard just 25 feet from my back door. I
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Penzey's is an awesome spice company - I order from them regularly. Good stuff!

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Hmmm...I actually don't know if this is on topic or off topic now...

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I was born at 9:26am.

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Lisa, you probably got pi in the eye. That's why.

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I see how Ralph posted twice in the original post, then added two more replies, doubling his posts here about pi.

You might say, Pi rrrrrr squared.

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"Lisa, you probably got pi in the eye. That's why."


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"Pi rrrrrr squared."



Pi are not squared. Pi are round!

I decided last night to bake a Pecan Pie on Saturday.

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Lars, if only you made two pecan delights, then I could post that a mathematician pirate would remark:

"Two Pi! Arrrrr!"

(so I did it anyway)

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My wife made up T-shirts for me and the boys. I'll post photos tomorrow, but it's a busy day tomorrow with baking a pie, then a basketball game one of the boys is playing in, then Pinewood Derby.

I heard so many LAME definitions of what Pi is and why tomorrow is special on the networks this morning. Why could they not simply say this:

"Pi is the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter. In other words, multiply Pi by the diameter (distance across the middle) to find the circumference (distance around the outside) of the circle. Pi is also use to calculate the area of a circle with the familiar Pi x r squared. Pi is often approximated as 3.14 for simple calculations, but Pi is actually an indeterminate number that begins 3.14159265359, so 3-14-15 at 9:26 is a once in a lifetime Pi moment. 3-14 will always be Pi day EVERY year, but this one is special. "



Was it really THAT hard to say it that way? There's no reason to turn this into Calculus!

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""Two Pi! Arrrrr!""



Peter,

Now you're getting into radians. Very clever!

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"3-14-15 at 9:26 is a once in a lifetime Pi moment. 3-14 will always be Pi day EVERY year, but this one is special. "
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Technically, the "pure" once in a lifetime pi day would be March 14, 1592 at 6:53:59 hours.
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And I thought Washinton/Franklin identification was complicated. I have stumbled into a den of Sheldons.

Larsdog is correct though. Pie are round, cornbread are square.

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What about cobbler? It's square and a scrambled pie. More or less.......

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Let us see who can post on this board EXACTLY on 3-14-15 9:26
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Sharing my pie with you. Technically, is a clafouti a pie or a semi-pie?
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"Technically, the "pure" once in a lifetime pi day would be March 14, 1592 at 6:53:59 hours."



More than once in a life time, Peter...ONCE FOREVER (until we can time travel)!
Still this one coming up is a good one!
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You read my mind! LOL!

I have my piece of cold pizza pie ready and waiting to hit Submit at 9:26 this morning. Remember Ralph, this is SOR time, so Eastern Daylight Savings Time; that's 6:26 AM for you in San Francisco, 14:26 hours for Nigel, etc.

Peter (three hours to go!)
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What a discussion! It really doesn't take much to keep a bunch of nerds happily chatting away!

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Posting!

Egads! My clock is not in sync with SOR! Missed it by four minutes. Will have to wait until March 14 2016 for the rounded up version now.

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Just woke up...WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Thanks Peter. Darn Eastern time!
Must be all this cold white stuff that is slowing down the time out East (quoting Senator Inhofe...our Science expert).

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At precisely 9:26 local I was pulling two Pecan pies from the oven. As Peter pointed out, it takes two pi (radians) to go full circle!

Working on downloading photo from iPhone video now!

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Happy Pi Day everyone! My son is holding an iPhone app with the time from the Atomic Clock in Colorado displayed in local time. You can't see it from the reduced image, but the time is precisely 9:26:53 local and those pies were pulled from the oven less than 10 seconds before this screen grab. (I had my wife shoot a video so I could be sure to get an image down to the second. I think I should have used an iPad instead of an iPhone to display the Atomic Clock)!

My wife also made up the T-shirts for us as a surprise. How cool is that?!?

And yes, Peter, it takes two pi to come full circle!

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