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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Color Theory in Album Page Design

 

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Suzanne

02 Apr 2015
11:34:34pm
To be honest I like the colours together the way they were in the origional picture. And it would drive me crazy if the stamps were not in order. I could never live with a page out of order.
But of course everyone has there own way of arranging their stamps. Nothing is right or wrong. Just different.

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03 Apr 2015
12:01:00am
re: Color Theory in Album Page Design

I shudder to think what that would do to the Washington/Franklins (Third Bureau)!

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03 Apr 2015
06:23:00am
re: Color Theory in Album Page Design

Fascinating post, anglophile. Your link was also interesting, and while there are probably many on this forum who know all about colour theory, I did not! It seems pretty essential knowledge if we are talking about the design of stamps.

My arrangement in a 3x3 square seemed logical for a set of nine stamps, yet on an album page I have occasionally used a 1 - 3 - 5 triangle where the dimensions seemed suitable, or a square seemed a bit 'solid' and visually dull. I have never really considered to what extent a stamp designer judges the overall look of a set. Where stamps are printed in sheets of one denomination I imagine that matters less; where they are printed in strips of different stamps, perhaps more. I wonder if S.A.Pomansky viewed his set as a 3x3 square?

Another point is that the denominations in this set are not all different, and the position of the pairs of 10s, 25s and 1s is dictated by the order in which they appear in the Gibbons catalogue. However, John Macco has kindly sent me a scan of the Zagorsky catalogue, which might be considered to be more authoritative. Zagorsky arranges the stamps as follows:

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In this arrangement, 2299 and 2300 are the reverse of Gibbons, as are 2303 and 2304. To make matters more complicated, Gibbons states that the 10k (Zag.2296), the 25k (Zag.2298), and the 40k (Zag.2301) were issued two weeks earlier than the others, and so if you were arranging your stamps strictly on date order (as I often do) then you would have a arrangement that tallied neither with Gibbons, Zagorsky, or indeed anglophile!

From where did Gibbons derive its order? It predates Zagorsky (who only began catalogues 25 years ago) and may be based on the order in which the stamps were originally sent to it by Goznak (the state postal authority) in 1959. Alternatively (since it ignores release dates within a set) Gibbons may have arranged the order itself, consistent with the five denominations represented. Zagorsky also ignores release date (at least in this non-specialist edition), but may have access to a better source. So is there an authoritative, original order?

I'm afraid I have to conclude that the visual appearance of the set, however arranged, was of little concern to Goznak, who released the stamps either in Gibbons or Zagorsky order. We're back to personal preference! Although the final stamp (Zag.2303 above) in Gibbons seems a little out of place, colour-wise, in the 9-stamp arrangement I posted, I confess that to this hopelessly untrained eye the Gibbons order, set in a 3x3 block, looks better than the two alternatives we see in this illuminating and informative thread. Many thanks to anglophile for the post!

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03 Apr 2015
10:41:46pm
re: Color Theory in Album Page Design

Hi everyone;

This is so obviously wrong that I'm just shocked to learn that this is going on here. Surprise

They should obviously be arranged in a circle of eight with one in the center. The stamp with
the scene facing North will belong in the top most position, and the scene facing South will be
in the bottom most position, and so on all the way around the compass rose, with the left-over
one in the center of course.

Have you never heard of Tatooine feng shui??? Rolling On The Floor Laughing

You need to repeat the grade school "Page Design 101" course! You took finger painting instead?
Disgraceful! Big Grin

Just Chillin;....
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Suzanne
02 Apr 2015
11:34:34pm

To be honest I like the colours together the way they were in the origional picture. And it would drive me crazy if the stamps were not in order. I could never live with a page out of order.
But of course everyone has there own way of arranging their stamps. Nothing is right or wrong. Just different.

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03 Apr 2015
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re: Color Theory in Album Page Design

I shudder to think what that would do to the Washington/Franklins (Third Bureau)!

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Guthrum

03 Apr 2015
06:23:00am

re: Color Theory in Album Page Design

Fascinating post, anglophile. Your link was also interesting, and while there are probably many on this forum who know all about colour theory, I did not! It seems pretty essential knowledge if we are talking about the design of stamps.

My arrangement in a 3x3 square seemed logical for a set of nine stamps, yet on an album page I have occasionally used a 1 - 3 - 5 triangle where the dimensions seemed suitable, or a square seemed a bit 'solid' and visually dull. I have never really considered to what extent a stamp designer judges the overall look of a set. Where stamps are printed in sheets of one denomination I imagine that matters less; where they are printed in strips of different stamps, perhaps more. I wonder if S.A.Pomansky viewed his set as a 3x3 square?

Another point is that the denominations in this set are not all different, and the position of the pairs of 10s, 25s and 1s is dictated by the order in which they appear in the Gibbons catalogue. However, John Macco has kindly sent me a scan of the Zagorsky catalogue, which might be considered to be more authoritative. Zagorsky arranges the stamps as follows:

Image Not Found

In this arrangement, 2299 and 2300 are the reverse of Gibbons, as are 2303 and 2304. To make matters more complicated, Gibbons states that the 10k (Zag.2296), the 25k (Zag.2298), and the 40k (Zag.2301) were issued two weeks earlier than the others, and so if you were arranging your stamps strictly on date order (as I often do) then you would have a arrangement that tallied neither with Gibbons, Zagorsky, or indeed anglophile!

From where did Gibbons derive its order? It predates Zagorsky (who only began catalogues 25 years ago) and may be based on the order in which the stamps were originally sent to it by Goznak (the state postal authority) in 1959. Alternatively (since it ignores release dates within a set) Gibbons may have arranged the order itself, consistent with the five denominations represented. Zagorsky also ignores release date (at least in this non-specialist edition), but may have access to a better source. So is there an authoritative, original order?

I'm afraid I have to conclude that the visual appearance of the set, however arranged, was of little concern to Goznak, who released the stamps either in Gibbons or Zagorsky order. We're back to personal preference! Although the final stamp (Zag.2303 above) in Gibbons seems a little out of place, colour-wise, in the 9-stamp arrangement I posted, I confess that to this hopelessly untrained eye the Gibbons order, set in a 3x3 block, looks better than the two alternatives we see in this illuminating and informative thread. Many thanks to anglophile for the post!

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03 Apr 2015
10:41:46pm

re: Color Theory in Album Page Design

Hi everyone;

This is so obviously wrong that I'm just shocked to learn that this is going on here. Surprise

They should obviously be arranged in a circle of eight with one in the center. The stamp with
the scene facing North will belong in the top most position, and the scene facing South will be
in the bottom most position, and so on all the way around the compass rose, with the left-over
one in the center of course.

Have you never heard of Tatooine feng shui??? Rolling On The Floor Laughing

You need to repeat the grade school "Page Design 101" course! You took finger painting instead?
Disgraceful! Big Grin

Just Chillin;....
TuskenRaider

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