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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Hungary Scott 109

 

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adam31415926
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25 Apr 2015
11:04:20am
I think I have this right, but am a little puzzled. I think this might be a color variation (it looks orange to me but is supposed to be red), but I might have the catalog number wrong. Can anyone help me figure this one out? I appreciate the help.

I believe this to be a Hungary Scott #179

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Bobstamp
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25 Apr 2015
11:34:39am
re: Hungary Scott 109

It looks to me like that stamp has had a hard life, and simply had a colour change because of age and exposure to environmental contaminants.

Bob

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25 Apr 2015
11:39:23am
re: Hungary Scott 109

Yes, it is #179.

In addition to what Bob said, inks for printing stamps were mixed by hand back in the "old days". No computers doing the mixing calculations. From one printing to the next, a new batch of ink could be a different shade from the original. When the shades are "significant", they are listed as minor varieties in the catalog.

Also, color names for stamps may seem different to you from what you may have been universally calling a color. Carmine, lake, scarlet, red, rose, and similar colors may all look as "red" to a non-collector, but to us each color is distinctly different. Just something that you will learn as you continue to grow in the hobby.

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25 Apr 2015
02:27:38pm
re: Hungary Scott 109

Wow, that's fascinating. Is that software expensive?

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25 Apr 2015
09:34:04pm
re: Hungary Scott 109

This one has a 137 watermark. But the catalog doesn't indicate this (I think).

Is this a Scott 109?

Thanks again.

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25 Apr 2015
09:53:10pm
re: Hungary Scott 109

Yes, that is correct.

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25 Apr 2015
10:13:16pm
re: Hungary Scott 109

Thanks Michael. I am learning.

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25 Apr 2015
10:18:01pm
re: Hungary Scott 109

I see that! Thumbs Up

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26 Apr 2015
06:45:09pm
re: Hungary Scott 109

Hi Adam,

"This one has a 137 watermark. But the catalog doesn't indicate this (I think).

Is this a Scott 109?"



Scott doesn't give give certain information (perforation/separation details, watermark, printing method, paper) unless this has changed from the previous set in the listing.

Sometimes you have to check back over many sets to be sure which information applies.

This means you for Sc #137 you have to search back to the heading before Sc. #84 to find the watermark description.




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25 Apr 2015
11:04:20am

I think I have this right, but am a little puzzled. I think this might be a color variation (it looks orange to me but is supposed to be red), but I might have the catalog number wrong. Can anyone help me figure this one out? I appreciate the help.

I believe this to be a Hungary Scott #179

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25 Apr 2015
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re: Hungary Scott 109

It looks to me like that stamp has had a hard life, and simply had a colour change because of age and exposure to environmental contaminants.

Bob

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25 Apr 2015
11:39:23am

re: Hungary Scott 109

Yes, it is #179.

In addition to what Bob said, inks for printing stamps were mixed by hand back in the "old days". No computers doing the mixing calculations. From one printing to the next, a new batch of ink could be a different shade from the original. When the shades are "significant", they are listed as minor varieties in the catalog.

Also, color names for stamps may seem different to you from what you may have been universally calling a color. Carmine, lake, scarlet, red, rose, and similar colors may all look as "red" to a non-collector, but to us each color is distinctly different. Just something that you will learn as you continue to grow in the hobby.

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25 Apr 2015
02:27:38pm

re: Hungary Scott 109

Wow, that's fascinating. Is that software expensive?

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25 Apr 2015
09:34:04pm

re: Hungary Scott 109

This one has a 137 watermark. But the catalog doesn't indicate this (I think).

Is this a Scott 109?

Thanks again.

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25 Apr 2015
09:53:10pm

re: Hungary Scott 109

Yes, that is correct.

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25 Apr 2015
10:13:16pm

re: Hungary Scott 109

Thanks Michael. I am learning.

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25 Apr 2015
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re: Hungary Scott 109

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26 Apr 2015
06:45:09pm

re: Hungary Scott 109

Hi Adam,

"This one has a 137 watermark. But the catalog doesn't indicate this (I think).

Is this a Scott 109?"



Scott doesn't give give certain information (perforation/separation details, watermark, printing method, paper) unless this has changed from the previous set in the listing.

Sometimes you have to check back over many sets to be sure which information applies.

This means you for Sc #137 you have to search back to the heading before Sc. #84 to find the watermark description.




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