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Wasn't easy to find. Maybe this is what you're looking for?
Cadillac Local Post
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I believe Linn's had an article about it in January?
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I have a few of the postage but need to find the history behind them Will try to find the Linn
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but I was not successful
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I have info about Cadillac Local Post somewhere (along with a number of other New Jersey Local Posts.) I did a catalog of US Modern Local Posts back in 1975 and compiled a fair listing of this post. Its been a while so it may take some time to locate.
Most local posts that operated since Herman Herst's Shrub Oak Local Post in 1953 provide postal service from the operator's desk to the nearest mailbox or postal counter. Many designed stamps (pre-Photoshop) with reasonable face values (5c, 10c) not like some of the more recent posts ($8) or some British locals. Linn's used to print announcements of new issues but stopped when someone realized that operators charging 35c for a FDC were getting rich and should be paying advertising rates.
$5 per local stamp seems a bit high to me.
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Thankyou Tad...I will be watching for your post. Yes 5$ is high.....I agree. I didn`t pay very much for the few that I have collected.I am mainly interested in the time frame of the stamps Cheryl
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I have sold a number of these over the years. All the ones in my database date from 1963 to 1968. Here are a couple of samples:
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The Linn's article was a January 29, 2015 Insights column by John Hotchner: U.S. Stamp Notes: Cadillac Post cover similar to U.S. envelope.
"Over the years, I’ve seen Cadillac Post local covers but was never able to pin down their story. A recent cache found at a dealer table has helped. According to publicity releases, Cadillac Post was born in 1953 in Daretown, N.J., but my earliest cover was canceled in 1960. Apparently, when the service began, the mail was carried in a 1952 Cadillac Coupe Deville over a 60-mile route starting and ending at Wildwood, N.J., on Cape May."
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So I`m thinking that Cadillac stamps had little to do with the ferry service from Cape May across the bay....Thankyou
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05:27:24pm
Take another look at the top cover of the two I posted above:
(Translated)
"Posted at Sea - SS. Delaware - Cape May-Lewes"
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Yes I see that Roy...what a mystery....the search continues.....I`m thinking the Cadillac and ferry service overlapped for a brief time.... With the ferry service beginning in 1964 Prior to that the mail did a 60mile run in a Cadillac....I wonder when the last Cadillac post was issued?
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Cape May is too far south to serve New York. Always fun to try to solve a philatelic mystery!
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I have found through a Local post club that the creator of the Cadillac post was/is Glenn Dye from New Jersey. I have an address minus a zip code and no email address. The Cadillac post began in 1953 according to my source. Any one out there with more info to add....?
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I found the same info from a local post org.
Postmaster: Glenn Dye
P.O. Box 101
Wildwood, NJ
08260
5204 ARCTIC AVE WILDWOOD, NJ, 08260
First Day of Operation: May 1, 1953
However the info also led to this very interesting article - seems Mr Dye had another side.
The cadillac post is mentioned at the end of the article.
Glenn Dye
He even deserved a second article
Glenn Dye 2
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Interesting info Nelson
Quite a character and fascinating articles As a collector of postal history this is a great example of the dark side of the hobby ! Thankyou for posting this info I have heard of the special private permits some collectors have but this is quite the extreme !
Cheryl
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Hi Everyone;
@ Cheryl;
Thanks for asking such an interesting question, I had no idea that local posts were in operation
in modern times.
@ Everyone;
Maybe I should start one of them myself. Or maybe others will do so, as I heard that USPS
wants to do away with RFD (Rural Free Delivery) and replace with rows of mail boxes on big
planks for each neighborhood.
Thank you to everyone for all this fascinating information.
If they do that I think it will create traffic problems and other negative issues. 
Just wonderin'....
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Interesting read on Glenn Dye's earlier history. Herman Herst, Jr. the famous stamp dealer and author started his Local Post on May 1st, 1953 by issuing a triangle 2c stamp and posting FDCs. Soon after, Glenn Dye also claimed to be the first Modern US Local Post and claimed that his stamp was also issued May 1st.
But ... I don't believe that he ever produced a cover with the 5/1/53 postmark. He then produced many different Local stamps under the Cadillac Post name along with many other posts. My catalog Vol. 1 list 109 different Cadillac Post issues plus varieties through 1974. I'm fairly certain that most provided no service at all.
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Interesting....thanks!
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"Herman Herst, Jr. the famous stamp dealer and author "
This brings to mind a much more famous Local Post than the Cadillac Post & no shady postman.
I will move it to "From Cadillac Post to Dog Post"
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one of our members, Doe Lion, operate(s/d) a local post, Tadpole Post. Her stamps are whimsical, and I'm a big fan of them, especially tied to her covers.
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Wow interesting...would love to see one of those
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Well, here ya go!
This is one that I was privileged to have received!
The Postal Service was not too careful in their handling of it, unfortunately. (I believe it was raining at some point during its trip)
But a wonderful conversation piece!
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Thankyou for sharing.....I like!!!
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OH, sorry; my oversight;
Here's the other side/front!
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In the Australian outback there is a town!! called Lightning Ridge .It's an opal mining town similar to Coober Pedy in South Australia ,only Lightning Ridge is in N.S.W..
I only know Coober Pedy as we have some friends who live there,in an aptly named dugout ,these are homes dug out of the rock .You want to add a room you just get the digger in and make one.
We stayed with our friends in their dugout ,it's really weird as it's pitch black in side.
Any way I will get back on track .
A gentleman named W S Moore who was an opal dealer and glass blower decided to start a local post and printed his own stamps.This was supposed to pay the the delivery from the post office to your home .
I don't know how the recipients paid him ,as his charge was $5.ROO.
This post was discontinued because after a stay in hospital Mr Moore returned home to find he had been burgled and everything had been stolen.So he gave up the local post.
As far as I am aware he only issued two sets
This is one set on cover to me.
Brian
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Nice Brian.....Great info thanks for sharing....must look for the other one now...lol
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Interesting story about that Cadillac Post, and I had never noticed or heard of it before. Today while looking at NJ covers on eBay I saw several of his covers.
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05:20:45pm
Can any of our members share information about Cadillac post? I believe this local post was used for the Cape May-Lewes ferry serving the Bay area of NJ and NY.I am wondering when the local post was used and for what reason...
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Wasn't easy to find. Maybe this is what you're looking for?
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05:43:29pm
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I believe Linn's had an article about it in January?
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I have a few of the postage but need to find the history behind them Will try to find the Linn
s article .......... but I was not successful
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I have info about Cadillac Local Post somewhere (along with a number of other New Jersey Local Posts.) I did a catalog of US Modern Local Posts back in 1975 and compiled a fair listing of this post. Its been a while so it may take some time to locate.
Most local posts that operated since Herman Herst's Shrub Oak Local Post in 1953 provide postal service from the operator's desk to the nearest mailbox or postal counter. Many designed stamps (pre-Photoshop) with reasonable face values (5c, 10c) not like some of the more recent posts ($8) or some British locals. Linn's used to print announcements of new issues but stopped when someone realized that operators charging 35c for a FDC were getting rich and should be paying advertising rates.
$5 per local stamp seems a bit high to me.
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Thankyou Tad...I will be watching for your post. Yes 5$ is high.....I agree. I didn`t pay very much for the few that I have collected.I am mainly interested in the time frame of the stamps Cheryl
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09:26:04pm
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I have sold a number of these over the years. All the ones in my database date from 1963 to 1968. Here are a couple of samples:
Roy
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The Linn's article was a January 29, 2015 Insights column by John Hotchner: U.S. Stamp Notes: Cadillac Post cover similar to U.S. envelope.
"Over the years, I’ve seen Cadillac Post local covers but was never able to pin down their story. A recent cache found at a dealer table has helped. According to publicity releases, Cadillac Post was born in 1953 in Daretown, N.J., but my earliest cover was canceled in 1960. Apparently, when the service began, the mail was carried in a 1952 Cadillac Coupe Deville over a 60-mile route starting and ending at Wildwood, N.J., on Cape May."
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So I`m thinking that Cadillac stamps had little to do with the ferry service from Cape May across the bay....Thankyou
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BuckaCover.com - 80,000 covers priced 60c to $1.50 - Easy browsing 300 categories
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Take another look at the top cover of the two I posted above:
(Translated)
"Posted at Sea - SS. Delaware - Cape May-Lewes"
Roy
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Yes I see that Roy...what a mystery....the search continues.....I`m thinking the Cadillac and ferry service overlapped for a brief time.... With the ferry service beginning in 1964 Prior to that the mail did a 60mile run in a Cadillac....I wonder when the last Cadillac post was issued?
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Cape May is too far south to serve New York. Always fun to try to solve a philatelic mystery!
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I have found through a Local post club that the creator of the Cadillac post was/is Glenn Dye from New Jersey. I have an address minus a zip code and no email address. The Cadillac post began in 1953 according to my source. Any one out there with more info to add....?
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I found the same info from a local post org.
Postmaster: Glenn Dye
P.O. Box 101
Wildwood, NJ
08260
5204 ARCTIC AVE WILDWOOD, NJ, 08260
First Day of Operation: May 1, 1953
However the info also led to this very interesting article - seems Mr Dye had another side.
The cadillac post is mentioned at the end of the article.
Glenn Dye
He even deserved a second article
Glenn Dye 2
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Interesting info Nelson
Quite a character and fascinating articles As a collector of postal history this is a great example of the dark side of the hobby ! Thankyou for posting this info I have heard of the special private permits some collectors have but this is quite the extreme !
Cheryl
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Hi Everyone;
@ Cheryl;
Thanks for asking such an interesting question, I had no idea that local posts were in operation
in modern times.
@ Everyone;
Maybe I should start one of them myself. Or maybe others will do so, as I heard that USPS
wants to do away with RFD (Rural Free Delivery) and replace with rows of mail boxes on big
planks for each neighborhood.
Thank you to everyone for all this fascinating information.
If they do that I think it will create traffic problems and other negative issues.
Just wonderin'....
TuskenRaider
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Interesting read on Glenn Dye's earlier history. Herman Herst, Jr. the famous stamp dealer and author started his Local Post on May 1st, 1953 by issuing a triangle 2c stamp and posting FDCs. Soon after, Glenn Dye also claimed to be the first Modern US Local Post and claimed that his stamp was also issued May 1st.
But ... I don't believe that he ever produced a cover with the 5/1/53 postmark. He then produced many different Local stamps under the Cadillac Post name along with many other posts. My catalog Vol. 1 list 109 different Cadillac Post issues plus varieties through 1974. I'm fairly certain that most provided no service at all.
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"Herman Herst, Jr. the famous stamp dealer and author "
This brings to mind a much more famous Local Post than the Cadillac Post & no shady postman.
I will move it to "From Cadillac Post to Dog Post"
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one of our members, Doe Lion, operate(s/d) a local post, Tadpole Post. Her stamps are whimsical, and I'm a big fan of them, especially tied to her covers.
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Wow interesting...would love to see one of those
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Well, here ya go!
This is one that I was privileged to have received!
The Postal Service was not too careful in their handling of it, unfortunately. (I believe it was raining at some point during its trip)
But a wonderful conversation piece!
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Thankyou for sharing.....I like!!!
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OH, sorry; my oversight;
Here's the other side/front!
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In the Australian outback there is a town!! called Lightning Ridge .It's an opal mining town similar to Coober Pedy in South Australia ,only Lightning Ridge is in N.S.W..
I only know Coober Pedy as we have some friends who live there,in an aptly named dugout ,these are homes dug out of the rock .You want to add a room you just get the digger in and make one.
We stayed with our friends in their dugout ,it's really weird as it's pitch black in side.
Any way I will get back on track .
A gentleman named W S Moore who was an opal dealer and glass blower decided to start a local post and printed his own stamps.This was supposed to pay the the delivery from the post office to your home .
I don't know how the recipients paid him ,as his charge was $5.ROO.
This post was discontinued because after a stay in hospital Mr Moore returned home to find he had been burgled and everything had been stolen.So he gave up the local post.
As far as I am aware he only issued two sets
This is one set on cover to me.
Brian
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Nice Brian.....Great info thanks for sharing....must look for the other one now...lol
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Interesting story about that Cadillac Post, and I had never noticed or heard of it before. Today while looking at NJ covers on eBay I saw several of his covers.
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