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Europe/Great Britain : "The National Trust"/Tintagel: Locals or Cinderellas Any information appreciated

 

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14 Jul 2015
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14 Jul 2015
03:41:21pm
re: "The National Trust"/Tintagel: Locals or Cinderellas Any information appreciated

The National trust is a Charitable Organization founded in the late 19th century to look after UK's heritage and countryside.

Tintagel Post Office (no longer a Post Office) is one such building as is much of the Cornwall countryside. It is a beautiful area to tour by car or bike....I did both in earlier years !

The labels on the cover are Cinderellas and have no postal validity. Many similar covers are/were issued as well as Postal cards and postcards. There are other labels too, nowadays very poor Self-adhesive types. The ones shown are of good quality and nice designs.

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14 Jul 2015
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re: "The National Trust"/Tintagel: Locals or Cinderellas Any information appreciated

Thanks, Michael! Much appreciated.

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15 Jul 2015
01:27:41am
re: "The National Trust"/Tintagel: Locals or Cinderellas Any information appreciated

Went to Tintagel many years ago and remember reading somewhere that it was supposed to have been the original Camelot.

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malcolm197

22 Jul 2015
02:33:29am
re: "The National Trust"/Tintagel: Locals or Cinderellas Any information appreciated

Re. Camelot

A nice story. However -

A) The castle is Mediaeval not Celtic (Norman at earliest) - but it is good for local tourism !!

B) While King Arthur is per se purely fictional, there are candidates for a Romano-British warlord as an inspiration for the stories of said King. Regrettably there is little if any written history between the departure of the Romans and the Saxon monk-propagandists ( who as invaders are most unlikely to give much credence to any Celtic heroes) - the King Arthur legend is a late Norman attempt to identify the latest invaders with pre-Saxon/Celtic histories ( Geoffrey of Monmouth being the chief culprit ). However during the Roman/Saxon interregnum the whole of Britain was Romano-British( Celtic) - so "Camelot" could have been anywhere. Other candidates include Caerleon-Upon-Usk in Monmouthshire,Wales.It wasn't called the Dark Ages for nothing- dark as little light shed on the period rather than necessarily primitive or sinister.

C) Geoffrey of Monmouth has Arthur as son of King of Cornwall - hence the Tintagel connection.

Guthrum as a history buff might have a better take on this, but being legend anything goes.It has to be said that Hollywood has a lot to answer for here - Jousting and plate armour,stone castles and cities etc have nothing at all to do with the period - leather jerkins( or chainmail or Roman metal tunics at best),round wooden shields and Roman -type forts and earth ramparts are more likely.

While just as fictional as any other King Arthur film, the one which stars Clive Owen does give I think a better sense of period than any of the other offerings, and is a far more credible effort at understanding the source of the story - and the props,dress and architecture give the impression of being well-researched - no French-chateau like castles here! -it's a belting adventure story to boot.

Back to the National Trust labels.These are fundraising labels sold in the shops at their properties.They also sell a "passport" and you can collect "postmark"-type stamps at the properties you visit. The National Trust collects and preserves tracts of countryside, stately homes,castles,monuments of all kinds,and other historic buidings. It even owns John Lennon's home in Liverpool !!Visit their website for details. Tourists to the UK should visit at least one NT property during their stay.

Malcolm

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22 Jul 2015
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re: "The National Trust"/Tintagel: Locals or Cinderellas Any information appreciated

While just as fictional as any other King Arthur film, the one which stars Clive Owen does give I think a better sense of period than any of the other offerings, and is a far more credible effort at understanding the source of the story - and the props,dress and architecture give the impression of being well-researched - no French-chateau like castles here!

I agree !

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londonbus1

14 Jul 2015
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re: "The National Trust"/Tintagel: Locals or Cinderellas Any information appreciated

The National trust is a Charitable Organization founded in the late 19th century to look after UK's heritage and countryside.

Tintagel Post Office (no longer a Post Office) is one such building as is much of the Cornwall countryside. It is a beautiful area to tour by car or bike....I did both in earlier years !

The labels on the cover are Cinderellas and have no postal validity. Many similar covers are/were issued as well as Postal cards and postcards. There are other labels too, nowadays very poor Self-adhesive types. The ones shown are of good quality and nice designs.

Londonbus1

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Thanks, Michael! Much appreciated.

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Charlie2009

15 Jul 2015
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re: "The National Trust"/Tintagel: Locals or Cinderellas Any information appreciated

Went to Tintagel many years ago and remember reading somewhere that it was supposed to have been the original Camelot.

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malcolm197

22 Jul 2015
02:33:29am

re: "The National Trust"/Tintagel: Locals or Cinderellas Any information appreciated

Re. Camelot

A nice story. However -

A) The castle is Mediaeval not Celtic (Norman at earliest) - but it is good for local tourism !!

B) While King Arthur is per se purely fictional, there are candidates for a Romano-British warlord as an inspiration for the stories of said King. Regrettably there is little if any written history between the departure of the Romans and the Saxon monk-propagandists ( who as invaders are most unlikely to give much credence to any Celtic heroes) - the King Arthur legend is a late Norman attempt to identify the latest invaders with pre-Saxon/Celtic histories ( Geoffrey of Monmouth being the chief culprit ). However during the Roman/Saxon interregnum the whole of Britain was Romano-British( Celtic) - so "Camelot" could have been anywhere. Other candidates include Caerleon-Upon-Usk in Monmouthshire,Wales.It wasn't called the Dark Ages for nothing- dark as little light shed on the period rather than necessarily primitive or sinister.

C) Geoffrey of Monmouth has Arthur as son of King of Cornwall - hence the Tintagel connection.

Guthrum as a history buff might have a better take on this, but being legend anything goes.It has to be said that Hollywood has a lot to answer for here - Jousting and plate armour,stone castles and cities etc have nothing at all to do with the period - leather jerkins( or chainmail or Roman metal tunics at best),round wooden shields and Roman -type forts and earth ramparts are more likely.

While just as fictional as any other King Arthur film, the one which stars Clive Owen does give I think a better sense of period than any of the other offerings, and is a far more credible effort at understanding the source of the story - and the props,dress and architecture give the impression of being well-researched - no French-chateau like castles here! -it's a belting adventure story to boot.

Back to the National Trust labels.These are fundraising labels sold in the shops at their properties.They also sell a "passport" and you can collect "postmark"-type stamps at the properties you visit. The National Trust collects and preserves tracts of countryside, stately homes,castles,monuments of all kinds,and other historic buidings. It even owns John Lennon's home in Liverpool !!Visit their website for details. Tourists to the UK should visit at least one NT property during their stay.

Malcolm

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Charlie2009

22 Jul 2015
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re: "The National Trust"/Tintagel: Locals or Cinderellas Any information appreciated

While just as fictional as any other King Arthur film, the one which stars Clive Owen does give I think a better sense of period than any of the other offerings, and is a far more credible effort at understanding the source of the story - and the props,dress and architecture give the impression of being well-researched - no French-chateau like castles here!

I agree !

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