Hey Shane,
Welcome aboard, and whenever you get the time,email me we'll chat about proofs and essays.
Best,
Dan C.
cohendaniel64@yahoo.com
Well, if that's the way you feel about it, Dan, go ahead, leave the rest of us out.
Ted
Ted
You're absolutely right-I was wrong to assume that others might not be interested.We'll certainly continue on this board if it's O.K. with all concerned. My bad!
Best,
Dan
Ted, Good to hear you got yourself hooked. Once you have, there is no going back!
I collect the world but my favorites of all are U.S. 19th century proofs. You can see the regular issues I have here: http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/us/usproofs.html
I also have many several back of book sets. I love essays but they are most all to expensive to get serious about. I have been waiting the last couple days for a #4 proof that I won in an auction a couple weeks ago. One of my favorite proofs is the trial color proof of the 1845 N.Y.C. postmaster provisional below. I found it hidden in a German auction lot many years ago.
AntoniusRa,
Clearly you are ahead of Ted & me on essays & proofs. I dabble a bit, you come from a more organized study approach. How about you taking the lead on this, and educate Ted and me as you do so? Perhaps we could expand the discussion to include Specimen's as well? (This would also have to include paper types as well, no?)
Just asking!
Dan
well hey fellas lets start right here then, im shiny new to the essay and proof arena and one of my first questions would be is there any reliable data available on how many essays were submitted for a given stamp? ie does the usps retain that information and make it available to the general public?
Hi Shane;
Thanks for posting those covers. That first one brings back memories. In Catholic grade school (8th grade)
our class took an Evelyn Woods speed reading course. We were required to choose a book to read and
do a book report on. It had to be not on a reading list and something educational and really different.
I chose "The Autobiography of Booker T. Washington" a great educator and black leader. Molding the char-
acter of many a young black man. I read the 200 or so page book in one afternoon. A great read it was!
That cover is probably worth much more than the $10.00 that is marked on it. Probably worth as a non
philatelic item of history, especially to a black history display.
Sorry for going off topic again, but what kind of steel do you use to make your knives?
Thanks for sharing.
Just stampin'....
TuskenRaider
cool story the 10 dollar notation on the cover was the indicator of the enclosed donation, not a price mark. someone sent Booker todays equivalent of 230 bucks!
as far as steels, Ive made em from just about every HC steel that us makers play with, ie d2 s7 o1 1095 1080 1074 w2 w1 the cpm series, various damascuses etcetcetc. heres a couple of pics of my most recent work, the blade is done in some of Randy Haas's tsunami damascus, the guard is mokume-gane made from copper and nickel, and the rest of the construction is snakewood, ivory,copper, nickel-silver and mild steel.
and in case anyones wondering, why yes I WOULD trade my work for stamps! *grins*
Very nice work. Thank you for posting.
Dan
thanks Dan, guess you missed my question? here Ill reiterate
well hey fellas lets start right here then, im shiny new to the essay and proof arena and one of my first questions would be is there any reliable data available on how many essays were submitted for a given stamp? ie does the usps retain that information and make it available to the general public?
Nope, I saw the question, but not knowing the answer kept my mouth shut.
Best,
Dan
Are you interested in 19th century Essays and proofs or modern or both. Surely the USPS keeps track of new essays submitted but I do not know how you would go about getting that information. There are many book written on Proofs and essays, I suggest Googling them and see what you come up with. Scott U.S. specialized catalog gives info on proofs and essays up until the around the 1950's.
That's a Beautiful knife! I love folded steel blades they're mesmerizing. I have a Black folded Katana and a Red folded Wakizashi next on my list is a folded Tanto
"but I do not know how you would go about getting that information."
Maybe submit a request through the Freedom of Information Act?
Beautiful piece of damast (is that the proper word in English?) Personally I would have omitted the copper guard but that is just a matter of taste. I applaud your craftmanship and know I would not be able to make anything like that. There were many blacksmiths in my family but I have learned that their skill was not passed on to me ðŸ˜
a tanto you say? Ill be your huckleberry. this one done in san mai made from hitatchi blue core with 410 stainless cladding, habaki in mokume-gane, tsuka and saya in exhibition grade cocobolo along with alaskan muskox accents.
jansimon the guard is not copper, its mokume- gane, a combination of copper and nickel, it just hasnt had time to patina and show its grain. heres an example of mokume that has had time to patina, although this billet was for a late Edo period Katana.
also im mostly interested in 19th century essays and proofs, and thank you for your advice! also any other particular titles or authors come to mind that you would recommend?
That is a very beautiful tanto, the saya is truly gorgeous. I wish I had some proofs and essays to trade you for it. Out of all my world stamps my U.S. proofs are my favorites and they are the last things I would ever let go of. I do however have a good stock of 19th stamps. I don't have any proof or essay reference books other than Scotts and a couple old auction catalogs. If you are an APS member then checking their library might be the best way to go as any books on the subject will be quite expensive. If you can find them, auction catalogs devoted to selling off better collections are also a nice reference. The one pictured below is my favorite.
This fellow has the most incredible stock of proofs and essays for sale that I have ever seen and the prices seem pretty reasonable. I scrolled with 35 items to a screen for over an hour and never got to the end. Check his offerings here: http://picclick.com/US-Columbian-Plate-Proofs-1-Sc-241P4-200-151966924273.html. I wish I had an extra 50K or so to play with. If I were you I would think about clicking on the stamps you like and then saving the image into a folder of essay etc. You could make a very nice computer collection for viewing and reference, I might do it myself.
I like to buy proofs in sets as piecing sets together can be quite difficult. One thing to remember is that essay and proofs almost always sell for a higher percentage of catalog than the actual stamps. Where the actual stamps may run 30-60% for decent copies proofs and essays will go for close to full catalog or more.
Hi Shane-
Beautiful knife work! I only have one knife I love. It's by Michael Quesenberry. Have you met him? So beautiful I almost hate to use it. (But I do!)
thank you and no I cant say that Ive met him, exceptional maker.
hi all! Shane Stainton here, Im a custom knife maker and blacksmith down in Texas.
My grandfather collected, he had a old strand album that Ive sadly lost many years ago in a move.
my desire to recreate that collection started me down this road again and lo and behold I got it bad, real bad, lol.
it's finds like this that have hooked me horribly
that last one gives me a chuckle, when your the baron ya dont NEED a address lol.
anyway be talking with you all soon.
whos our resident essay and proof expert? I'm looking to start a collection of them
be well! stamp on!
Shane
re: i blame grandpa :)
Hey Shane,
Welcome aboard, and whenever you get the time,email me we'll chat about proofs and essays.
Best,
Dan C.
cohendaniel64@yahoo.com
re: i blame grandpa :)
Well, if that's the way you feel about it, Dan, go ahead, leave the rest of us out.
Ted
re: i blame grandpa :)
Ted
You're absolutely right-I was wrong to assume that others might not be interested.We'll certainly continue on this board if it's O.K. with all concerned. My bad!
Best,
Dan
re: i blame grandpa :)
Ted, Good to hear you got yourself hooked. Once you have, there is no going back!
I collect the world but my favorites of all are U.S. 19th century proofs. You can see the regular issues I have here: http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/us/usproofs.html
I also have many several back of book sets. I love essays but they are most all to expensive to get serious about. I have been waiting the last couple days for a #4 proof that I won in an auction a couple weeks ago. One of my favorite proofs is the trial color proof of the 1845 N.Y.C. postmaster provisional below. I found it hidden in a German auction lot many years ago.
re: i blame grandpa :)
AntoniusRa,
Clearly you are ahead of Ted & me on essays & proofs. I dabble a bit, you come from a more organized study approach. How about you taking the lead on this, and educate Ted and me as you do so? Perhaps we could expand the discussion to include Specimen's as well? (This would also have to include paper types as well, no?)
Just asking!
Dan
re: i blame grandpa :)
well hey fellas lets start right here then, im shiny new to the essay and proof arena and one of my first questions would be is there any reliable data available on how many essays were submitted for a given stamp? ie does the usps retain that information and make it available to the general public?
re: i blame grandpa :)
Hi Shane;
Thanks for posting those covers. That first one brings back memories. In Catholic grade school (8th grade)
our class took an Evelyn Woods speed reading course. We were required to choose a book to read and
do a book report on. It had to be not on a reading list and something educational and really different.
I chose "The Autobiography of Booker T. Washington" a great educator and black leader. Molding the char-
acter of many a young black man. I read the 200 or so page book in one afternoon. A great read it was!
That cover is probably worth much more than the $10.00 that is marked on it. Probably worth as a non
philatelic item of history, especially to a black history display.
Sorry for going off topic again, but what kind of steel do you use to make your knives?
Thanks for sharing.
Just stampin'....
TuskenRaider
re: i blame grandpa :)
cool story the 10 dollar notation on the cover was the indicator of the enclosed donation, not a price mark. someone sent Booker todays equivalent of 230 bucks!
as far as steels, Ive made em from just about every HC steel that us makers play with, ie d2 s7 o1 1095 1080 1074 w2 w1 the cpm series, various damascuses etcetcetc. heres a couple of pics of my most recent work, the blade is done in some of Randy Haas's tsunami damascus, the guard is mokume-gane made from copper and nickel, and the rest of the construction is snakewood, ivory,copper, nickel-silver and mild steel.
re: i blame grandpa :)
and in case anyones wondering, why yes I WOULD trade my work for stamps! *grins*
re: i blame grandpa :)
Very nice work. Thank you for posting.
Dan
re: i blame grandpa :)
thanks Dan, guess you missed my question? here Ill reiterate
well hey fellas lets start right here then, im shiny new to the essay and proof arena and one of my first questions would be is there any reliable data available on how many essays were submitted for a given stamp? ie does the usps retain that information and make it available to the general public?
re: i blame grandpa :)
Nope, I saw the question, but not knowing the answer kept my mouth shut.
Best,
Dan
re: i blame grandpa :)
Are you interested in 19th century Essays and proofs or modern or both. Surely the USPS keeps track of new essays submitted but I do not know how you would go about getting that information. There are many book written on Proofs and essays, I suggest Googling them and see what you come up with. Scott U.S. specialized catalog gives info on proofs and essays up until the around the 1950's.
That's a Beautiful knife! I love folded steel blades they're mesmerizing. I have a Black folded Katana and a Red folded Wakizashi next on my list is a folded Tanto
re: i blame grandpa :)
"but I do not know how you would go about getting that information."
Maybe submit a request through the Freedom of Information Act?
re: i blame grandpa :)
Beautiful piece of damast (is that the proper word in English?) Personally I would have omitted the copper guard but that is just a matter of taste. I applaud your craftmanship and know I would not be able to make anything like that. There were many blacksmiths in my family but I have learned that their skill was not passed on to me ðŸ˜
re: i blame grandpa :)
a tanto you say? Ill be your huckleberry. this one done in san mai made from hitatchi blue core with 410 stainless cladding, habaki in mokume-gane, tsuka and saya in exhibition grade cocobolo along with alaskan muskox accents.
re: i blame grandpa :)
jansimon the guard is not copper, its mokume- gane, a combination of copper and nickel, it just hasnt had time to patina and show its grain. heres an example of mokume that has had time to patina, although this billet was for a late Edo period Katana.
re: i blame grandpa :)
also im mostly interested in 19th century essays and proofs, and thank you for your advice! also any other particular titles or authors come to mind that you would recommend?
re: i blame grandpa :)
That is a very beautiful tanto, the saya is truly gorgeous. I wish I had some proofs and essays to trade you for it. Out of all my world stamps my U.S. proofs are my favorites and they are the last things I would ever let go of. I do however have a good stock of 19th stamps. I don't have any proof or essay reference books other than Scotts and a couple old auction catalogs. If you are an APS member then checking their library might be the best way to go as any books on the subject will be quite expensive. If you can find them, auction catalogs devoted to selling off better collections are also a nice reference. The one pictured below is my favorite.
This fellow has the most incredible stock of proofs and essays for sale that I have ever seen and the prices seem pretty reasonable. I scrolled with 35 items to a screen for over an hour and never got to the end. Check his offerings here: http://picclick.com/US-Columbian-Plate-Proofs-1-Sc-241P4-200-151966924273.html. I wish I had an extra 50K or so to play with. If I were you I would think about clicking on the stamps you like and then saving the image into a folder of essay etc. You could make a very nice computer collection for viewing and reference, I might do it myself.
I like to buy proofs in sets as piecing sets together can be quite difficult. One thing to remember is that essay and proofs almost always sell for a higher percentage of catalog than the actual stamps. Where the actual stamps may run 30-60% for decent copies proofs and essays will go for close to full catalog or more.
re: i blame grandpa :)
Hi Shane-
Beautiful knife work! I only have one knife I love. It's by Michael Quesenberry. Have you met him? So beautiful I almost hate to use it. (But I do!)
re: i blame grandpa :)
thank you and no I cant say that Ive met him, exceptional maker.