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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Serbia?

 

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whitebuffalo
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10 Feb 2016
09:23:39am
Good morning!

I came across these in an old stockbook. They were with a complete set of 1905 King Peter I issues(which I did find listed) and I'm assuming with the "Nowta" inscription, they are also from Serbia. But, I'm not finding these in my available catalogs.

I would much appreciate any help as far as country of origin(if not Serbia), catalog#, date of issue and CV. They are all in unused condition.

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Thank you very much for any help you can offer,

WB


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dollhaus

10 Feb 2016
09:47:22am
re: Serbia?

Don't have access to a catalog right now, but those appear to be Ukrainian - the stylized trident (middle top of the three on right, one on each side of two on left) is a dead giveaway.

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10 Feb 2016
10:03:47am
re: Serbia?

There they are, 1920 Ukraine "new daily stamps".

Note to self, stylized trident = Ukraine.

You guys always make it seem so easy!

Thanks dollhaus!

WB

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pedroguy
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10 Feb 2016
10:03:55am
re: Serbia?

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Hope this helps
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10 Feb 2016
10:09:29am
re: Serbia?

Thanks Bill, that added info is very helpful!

Much appreciated,

WB

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nigelc
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10 Feb 2016
11:00:57am
re: Serbia?

This set was ordered by Symon Petliura's Ukrainian government while it was fighting the Soviet forces. However, by the time they had been printed, the government had lost control of its last Ukrainian territory and its remaining forces had been pushed back into Poland.

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10 Feb 2016
11:33:18am
re: Serbia?

A wee bit o' history with these then, very interesting.

What do you suppose would have happened with them right at that point in time? If they were never issued for use, were they stuck in a vault and discovered later? Would they have been recognized back then as having value in the philatelic market? I guess I've never really thought about how stamps of this nature, ever became available to collectors. It seems like if they weren't going to be issued for use, they would have been destroyed. If for no other reason, as a statement of victory.

I know there have been other cases of this same scenario, but just how did stamps like this find their way into the collector market?

WB

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nigelc
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10 Feb 2016
12:23:23pm
re: Serbia?

I'm sure they were sold very quickly to stamp dealers, either directly by the printers or by agents of the government in exile.

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11 Feb 2016
09:44:12am
re: Serbia?

Thanks for the help.

WB

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whitebuffalo

10 Feb 2016
09:23:39am

Good morning!

I came across these in an old stockbook. They were with a complete set of 1905 King Peter I issues(which I did find listed) and I'm assuming with the "Nowta" inscription, they are also from Serbia. But, I'm not finding these in my available catalogs.

I would much appreciate any help as far as country of origin(if not Serbia), catalog#, date of issue and CV. They are all in unused condition.

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Thank you very much for any help you can offer,

WB


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dollhaus

10 Feb 2016
09:47:22am

re: Serbia?

Don't have access to a catalog right now, but those appear to be Ukrainian - the stylized trident (middle top of the three on right, one on each side of two on left) is a dead giveaway.

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whitebuffalo

10 Feb 2016
10:03:47am

re: Serbia?

There they are, 1920 Ukraine "new daily stamps".

Note to self, stylized trident = Ukraine.

You guys always make it seem so easy!

Thanks dollhaus!

WB

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pedroguy

10 Feb 2016
10:03:55am

re: Serbia?

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whitebuffalo

10 Feb 2016
10:09:29am

re: Serbia?

Thanks Bill, that added info is very helpful!

Much appreciated,

WB

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nigelc

10 Feb 2016
11:00:57am

re: Serbia?

This set was ordered by Symon Petliura's Ukrainian government while it was fighting the Soviet forces. However, by the time they had been printed, the government had lost control of its last Ukrainian territory and its remaining forces had been pushed back into Poland.

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whitebuffalo

10 Feb 2016
11:33:18am

re: Serbia?

A wee bit o' history with these then, very interesting.

What do you suppose would have happened with them right at that point in time? If they were never issued for use, were they stuck in a vault and discovered later? Would they have been recognized back then as having value in the philatelic market? I guess I've never really thought about how stamps of this nature, ever became available to collectors. It seems like if they weren't going to be issued for use, they would have been destroyed. If for no other reason, as a statement of victory.

I know there have been other cases of this same scenario, but just how did stamps like this find their way into the collector market?

WB

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nigelc

10 Feb 2016
12:23:23pm

re: Serbia?

I'm sure they were sold very quickly to stamp dealers, either directly by the printers or by agents of the government in exile.

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whitebuffalo

11 Feb 2016
09:44:12am

re: Serbia?

Thanks for the help.

WB

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