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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

 

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Ningpo
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11 Feb 2016
09:03:48pm
I know SG list lower grade material on eBay but this surely is sinking into the depths of desperation:


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Why would a prestigious company list this bucket of horse apples, described as Toned on reverse with large hinge remainder & faults. No gum.


They seem to have lost the plot. In view of their rather precarious financial position (Share price 67 pence), this does not, in my opinion, send out the right message.

I guess the person bidding on this must feel sorry for them.

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ikeyPikey
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11 Feb 2016
09:23:33pm
re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

My particular brand of Bronze Age Mythology comes with a requirement to judge favorably.

Perhaps that offering could be part of a real-world test to value inventory.

Cheers,

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11 Feb 2016
09:27:21pm
re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

Now that should be put in "Poet's Corner".

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cocollectibles

12 Feb 2016
05:15:31am
re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

I can't speak for SG's selling strategy to offer less than pristine material, but from a collector's perspective, perhaps that buyer feels this temporarily fills a gap in the collection, until a "real" gummed mint version comes along or is affordable.

And no, I'm not the buyer. Happy

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Ningpo
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17 Feb 2016
06:06:23pm
re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

"....but from a collector's perspective, perhaps that buyer feels this temporarily fills a gap in the collection, until a "real" gummed mint version comes along or is affordable. "



That I quite understand, as most of us probably have examples in our own collections. Surely there are limits though:



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Again from Stanley Gibbons' eBay listings. Space filler, or land filler?

Maybe some Polyfilla on the back will sort this one out.

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michael78651
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17 Feb 2016
06:52:59pm
re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

Ammonia will at least clean the paper of the foxing. At least it'll be better appearing. Still have the creases, though.

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17 Feb 2016
07:27:09pm
re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

"Ammonia will at least clean the paper of the foxing. "



Michael,

I've been to about half a dozen stores looking for Ammonia, all have been scented, can you tell me where I should look for unscented. OR is scented okay to use.

Thanks in advance.......Bill

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michael78651
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17 Feb 2016
07:36:11pm
re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

I wouldn't use scented. May have oils used to create the scent. The bottle of ammonia I have is from Wal-Mart.

I haven't checked for it, but I would think that a HomeDepot, Loewe's or janitorial supply store would carry clear ammonia.

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cocollectibles

17 Feb 2016
08:04:38pm
re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

Check it out at Walmart, among other places.

Of course, it goes without saying: Never mix ammonia with bleach! Unless you want to re-enact World War 1 gas warfare.



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17 Feb 2016
09:16:42pm
re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

Not at my Home Depot, which has only lemon-scented.

I would experiment with the first ammonia I could find.

Once that is a success, and I was ready to get serious, I would order from a chemical supply house.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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dollhaus

17 Feb 2016
09:46:03pm
re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

Don't use scented - your stamps will smell like lemonade for months. I found clear ammonia at Walmart, and Amazon has it on their site ($7.82 for a half-gallon jug).

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18 Feb 2016
03:34:26am
re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

Once the stamp is wet, try lying it face down on a piece of tile (Glossy) or marble and roll smooth weight over it. I have a utensil that has a stainless steel cylinder about three inches wide. I don't know what it was originally for, but I found it in a flea market. It has a handle to hold ad roll it, and I've had some luck flattening some creases. I like to go slow several ties back and forth, then let it sit for a while and repeat the rolling when the stamp is half dry.

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19 Feb 2016
04:47:01pm
re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

Once the markings (mould?) are fixed there is nothing like a light ironing - works for me! Creases just disappear!

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Ningpo

11 Feb 2016
09:03:48pm

I know SG list lower grade material on eBay but this surely is sinking into the depths of desperation:


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Why would a prestigious company list this bucket of horse apples, described as Toned on reverse with large hinge remainder & faults. No gum.


They seem to have lost the plot. In view of their rather precarious financial position (Share price 67 pence), this does not, in my opinion, send out the right message.

I guess the person bidding on this must feel sorry for them.

Rolling Eyes



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ikeyPikey

11 Feb 2016
09:23:33pm

re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

My particular brand of Bronze Age Mythology comes with a requirement to judge favorably.

Perhaps that offering could be part of a real-world test to value inventory.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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11 Feb 2016
09:27:21pm

re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

Now that should be put in "Poet's Corner".

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cocollectibles

12 Feb 2016
05:15:31am

re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

I can't speak for SG's selling strategy to offer less than pristine material, but from a collector's perspective, perhaps that buyer feels this temporarily fills a gap in the collection, until a "real" gummed mint version comes along or is affordable.

And no, I'm not the buyer. Happy

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17 Feb 2016
06:06:23pm

re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

"....but from a collector's perspective, perhaps that buyer feels this temporarily fills a gap in the collection, until a "real" gummed mint version comes along or is affordable. "



That I quite understand, as most of us probably have examples in our own collections. Surely there are limits though:



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Again from Stanley Gibbons' eBay listings. Space filler, or land filler?

Maybe some Polyfilla on the back will sort this one out.

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michael78651

17 Feb 2016
06:52:59pm

re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

Ammonia will at least clean the paper of the foxing. At least it'll be better appearing. Still have the creases, though.

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pedroguy

17 Feb 2016
07:27:09pm

re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

"Ammonia will at least clean the paper of the foxing. "



Michael,

I've been to about half a dozen stores looking for Ammonia, all have been scented, can you tell me where I should look for unscented. OR is scented okay to use.

Thanks in advance.......Bill

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michael78651

17 Feb 2016
07:36:11pm

re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

I wouldn't use scented. May have oils used to create the scent. The bottle of ammonia I have is from Wal-Mart.

I haven't checked for it, but I would think that a HomeDepot, Loewe's or janitorial supply store would carry clear ammonia.

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cocollectibles

17 Feb 2016
08:04:38pm

re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

Check it out at Walmart, among other places.

Of course, it goes without saying: Never mix ammonia with bleach! Unless you want to re-enact World War 1 gas warfare.



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17 Feb 2016
09:16:42pm

re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

Not at my Home Depot, which has only lemon-scented.

I would experiment with the first ammonia I could find.

Once that is a success, and I was ready to get serious, I would order from a chemical supply house.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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dollhaus

17 Feb 2016
09:46:03pm

re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

Don't use scented - your stamps will smell like lemonade for months. I found clear ammonia at Walmart, and Amazon has it on their site ($7.82 for a half-gallon jug).

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18 Feb 2016
03:34:26am

re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

Once the stamp is wet, try lying it face down on a piece of tile (Glossy) or marble and roll smooth weight over it. I have a utensil that has a stainless steel cylinder about three inches wide. I don't know what it was originally for, but I found it in a flea market. It has a handle to hold ad roll it, and I've had some luck flattening some creases. I like to go slow several ties back and forth, then let it sit for a while and repeat the rolling when the stamp is half dry.

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19 Feb 2016
04:47:01pm

re: Stanley Gibbons: Are they that desperate?

Once the markings (mould?) are fixed there is nothing like a light ironing - works for me! Creases just disappear!

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