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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

 

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Winedrinker
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22 Feb 2016
05:13:33pm
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Just purchased a small selection of classic Great Britain stamps and found this stowaway. The word "postage" is not on it, so I am curious as to what it is. Perused the classic Scott catalogue and could not find anything. Appreciate any help.

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22 Feb 2016
06:05:12pm

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re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

Check out a question I asked regarding the same issue. Search: Inland Revenue in the topics. I posted the question on 1 January 2015.

I had the same question and received very good information.

Mel

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Ningpo
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22 Feb 2016
06:10:16pm
re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

This is a common fiscal value. Unfortunately I can't give any listing reference, as my Barefoot Commonwealth Revenues catalogue does not include GB.

I know someone else here is sure to identify it though.

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22 Feb 2016
08:19:31pm
re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

"Great Britain Revenues" by J. Barefoot lists this as Inland Revenue #27 1d lilac CV= .05

c.1868-78

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Here is a quote from the catalog regarding this particular stamp;

"Greater numbers were issued of this stamp than any other adhesive revenue stamp. It remained in use until the turn of the century and at least 124 plates are recorded. During the course of printing, the corner ornaments were modified and enlarged."



That's all I have....hope it helps!
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Winedrinker
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22 Feb 2016
08:56:28pm
re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

Great information! Thank you all.

And appreciate the added details Musicman. In fact, looking at the back of my brand new DAVO album, there is a place for the stamp on a "Revenue" page. (did not know I had a page for revenues) Oddly the date indicated is 1882. So I still need to nail that down as it differs from the Barefoot date you mention of 1868-1878.

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nigelc
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23 Feb 2016
05:50:55am
re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

These stamps were authorised for postal use and are listed in some detail at the end of the GB listing in the SG Commonwealth and British Empire Stamps 1840-1970 Catalogue ("SG Part 1").



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23 Feb 2016
06:25:58am
re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

Page 381 SG Concise 2015 SG:F18-23 depending on Watermark

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Winedrinker
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24 Feb 2016
07:40:45am
re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

Thank you Charlie and Nigel for the last bits of the puzzle.
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khj
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24 Feb 2016
03:18:43pm
re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

However this particular stamp was clearly used as a fiscal/revenue stamp, as noted by the signature. The SG F# catalog listings only apply for postal cancels.

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stampchi

20 May 2016
08:58:45pm
re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

This design (almost identical) was submitted by Mssrs. Skipper and East for use as a postage stamp. It was rejected but was adapted for use as a revenue stamp. In the late 1860's they were approved for postage use. Your copy has been fiscally used as shown by the pen cancel. Stamps with genuine postmarks are worth more and are listed in SG GB catalogue Part 1, QV.

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malcolm197

22 Jun 2016
06:56:01am
re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

These revenues are more interesting when attatched to the original invoice/receipt/other document. However not many about - early collectors have a lot to answer for. We are much more interested these days in historical documents/genealogy/social history than we used to be and such documents are interesting to those working in these fields

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Winedrinker

22 Feb 2016
05:13:33pm

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Just purchased a small selection of classic Great Britain stamps and found this stowaway. The word "postage" is not on it, so I am curious as to what it is. Perused the classic Scott catalogue and could not find anything. Appreciate any help.

Winedrinker

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mbo1142

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22 Feb 2016
06:05:12pm

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re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

Check out a question I asked regarding the same issue. Search: Inland Revenue in the topics. I posted the question on 1 January 2015.

I had the same question and received very good information.

Mel

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Ningpo

22 Feb 2016
06:10:16pm

re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

This is a common fiscal value. Unfortunately I can't give any listing reference, as my Barefoot Commonwealth Revenues catalogue does not include GB.

I know someone else here is sure to identify it though.

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musicman

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22 Feb 2016
08:19:31pm

re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

"Great Britain Revenues" by J. Barefoot lists this as Inland Revenue #27 1d lilac CV= .05

c.1868-78

Perf 14

Anchor watermark


Here is a quote from the catalog regarding this particular stamp;

"Greater numbers were issued of this stamp than any other adhesive revenue stamp. It remained in use until the turn of the century and at least 124 plates are recorded. During the course of printing, the corner ornaments were modified and enlarged."



That's all I have....hope it helps!
Happy

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Winedrinker

22 Feb 2016
08:56:28pm

re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

Great information! Thank you all.

And appreciate the added details Musicman. In fact, looking at the back of my brand new DAVO album, there is a place for the stamp on a "Revenue" page. (did not know I had a page for revenues) Oddly the date indicated is 1882. So I still need to nail that down as it differs from the Barefoot date you mention of 1868-1878.

Cheers,
Winedrinker

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nigelc

23 Feb 2016
05:50:55am

re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

These stamps were authorised for postal use and are listed in some detail at the end of the GB listing in the SG Commonwealth and British Empire Stamps 1840-1970 Catalogue ("SG Part 1").



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Charlie2009

23 Feb 2016
06:25:58am

re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

Page 381 SG Concise 2015 SG:F18-23 depending on Watermark

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Winedrinker

24 Feb 2016
07:40:45am

re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

Thank you Charlie and Nigel for the last bits of the puzzle.
Wine

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khj

24 Feb 2016
03:18:43pm

re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

However this particular stamp was clearly used as a fiscal/revenue stamp, as noted by the signature. The SG F# catalog listings only apply for postal cancels.

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stampchi

20 May 2016
08:58:45pm

re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

This design (almost identical) was submitted by Mssrs. Skipper and East for use as a postage stamp. It was rejected but was adapted for use as a revenue stamp. In the late 1860's they were approved for postage use. Your copy has been fiscally used as shown by the pen cancel. Stamps with genuine postmarks are worth more and are listed in SG GB catalogue Part 1, QV.

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malcolm197

22 Jun 2016
06:56:01am

re: Great Britain "stamp" ? -- word "postage" nowhere to be found.

These revenues are more interesting when attatched to the original invoice/receipt/other document. However not many about - early collectors have a lot to answer for. We are much more interested these days in historical documents/genealogy/social history than we used to be and such documents are interesting to those working in these fields

Malcolm

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