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This stamp came in a lot with around 500 other Ceres stamps so it seems like a good time to make new pages to keep in sync with the new catalog listings. I thought it might be a good idea to make a cross reference for the new and old numbers before I begin the task of making the new pages. Below are scans of the list. If anyone is interested I can email them the text file of the list.
I hope some of you find it useful.
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Mitch, why did Scott undergo a major renumbering?
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There have been a couple of older discussions on that. The links are below. As to why Scott anything???
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=12485#90860
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=12924#94073
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"Mitch, why did Scott undergo a major renumbering?"
DGP, It makes little sense to me why Scott would do this especially 90-100 years after they were issued. Did Scott not know about them till recently (I think not) or did they not think they were worth cataloging previously. Or just seeing a place to make a little profit. Whatever the reason I think they did it very poorly at least for the collector. If they did not think they were worth mentioning before why give them a major number? They could have much more easily given them all sub numbers. That should have made everyone happy and not caused a big problem for collectors. There are really no new denominations or colors in the new Ceres additions, the difference lies in paper and perf count. Scott is the only one gaining from this. Is Scott going to systematically going to do this with all major countries and then profiting in more frequent catalog sales as well as page sales. Are they offering just the pages one needs to straighten out the Ceres mess? Or will you have to buy the 1st volume of pages Or are they making them at all?
I don't know the answer to the question you ask but that is what goes through my mind when I think about it.
I think I am going to just keep my pages the way they are. I had not long ago expanded the Specialized pages for the earlier years and I am quite happy with it's presentation. I've long had a stock sheet of the newly added numbers. I think I will just keep adding to it using the new numbers.
I only need 6 stamps for Portugal to be complete to 1982 (3 are quite easy). I really don't want to add numbers to my need list that were not required for the last 90 years. I'm just going to call it complete for me after those 6 stamps. I really need to move on to some other countries after seriously searching Portugal Portugal for the last 5 years. Many of the newly added stamps are going to be extremely hard to get. The papers which are often not correctly identified by sellers will very much complicate the pursuit.
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I see Michel catalogue also mention "Kartonpapir" = Carton paper or thick paper. Scott don't have that listed? I see that "Steinar pages" don't have a place for them.
The "Carton" paper is very "stiff" when "flipped" with your finger. But where goes the line in measured thickness between normal paper and thick paper?
I have a tool that messure down to 0,001mm and I have done some measurement. The thickest paper I have measured was 0,112mm I think. The thinnest paper measured was 0,061mm.
I have to set this up more precisely and write down results.
The Portuguese Ceres is a wild jungle.
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And AntoniusRa, I would love to have that Text file.
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Tobben63, I've sent you the file
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The other day I received the last Portugal Ceres stamp (below) I needed to complete the series according to Scotts old numbering. As many of you know Scott has changed the numbers on these adding many stamps that were not listed before.
This stamp came in a lot with around 500 other Ceres stamps so it seems like a good time to make new pages to keep in sync with the new catalog listings. I thought it might be a good idea to make a cross reference for the new and old numbers before I begin the task of making the new pages. Below are scans of the list. If anyone is interested I can email them the text file of the list.
I hope some of you find it useful.
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Mitch, why did Scott undergo a major renumbering?
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re: Portugal Ceres old and new number cross reference list
There have been a couple of older discussions on that. The links are below. As to why Scott anything???
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=12485#90860
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=12924#94073
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re: Portugal Ceres old and new number cross reference list
"Mitch, why did Scott undergo a major renumbering?"
DGP, It makes little sense to me why Scott would do this especially 90-100 years after they were issued. Did Scott not know about them till recently (I think not) or did they not think they were worth cataloging previously. Or just seeing a place to make a little profit. Whatever the reason I think they did it very poorly at least for the collector. If they did not think they were worth mentioning before why give them a major number? They could have much more easily given them all sub numbers. That should have made everyone happy and not caused a big problem for collectors. There are really no new denominations or colors in the new Ceres additions, the difference lies in paper and perf count. Scott is the only one gaining from this. Is Scott going to systematically going to do this with all major countries and then profiting in more frequent catalog sales as well as page sales. Are they offering just the pages one needs to straighten out the Ceres mess? Or will you have to buy the 1st volume of pages Or are they making them at all?
I don't know the answer to the question you ask but that is what goes through my mind when I think about it.
I think I am going to just keep my pages the way they are. I had not long ago expanded the Specialized pages for the earlier years and I am quite happy with it's presentation. I've long had a stock sheet of the newly added numbers. I think I will just keep adding to it using the new numbers.
I only need 6 stamps for Portugal to be complete to 1982 (3 are quite easy). I really don't want to add numbers to my need list that were not required for the last 90 years. I'm just going to call it complete for me after those 6 stamps. I really need to move on to some other countries after seriously searching Portugal Portugal for the last 5 years. Many of the newly added stamps are going to be extremely hard to get. The papers which are often not correctly identified by sellers will very much complicate the pursuit.
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re: Portugal Ceres old and new number cross reference list
I see Michel catalogue also mention "Kartonpapir" = Carton paper or thick paper. Scott don't have that listed? I see that "Steinar pages" don't have a place for them.
The "Carton" paper is very "stiff" when "flipped" with your finger. But where goes the line in measured thickness between normal paper and thick paper?
I have a tool that messure down to 0,001mm and I have done some measurement. The thickest paper I have measured was 0,112mm I think. The thinnest paper measured was 0,061mm.
I have to set this up more precisely and write down results.
The Portuguese Ceres is a wild jungle.
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And AntoniusRa, I would love to have that Text file.
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Tobben63, I've sent you the file
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