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How common are/were these? Any other info also appreciated.
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12:43:52pm
The pairs are mostly from four and six stamp booklet panes. Pretty common.
The middle of the top row, "½p, 1p" pair looks like it is from DP 31, a booklet pane of six, five stamps, ½p, ½p, 1p, 1p, & 7p plus a label "remember the post code."
My eyes can't make the perfs out. If they were cut top and bottom they are coils.
If they were cut left or right and/or bottom they are from booklet panes.
We check whether the perfs were cut (straight cut tips) or torn(Rough perf tips) from the top edge of each stamp clockwise; "CTCT" Horizontal coil; "TCTT" or "TTTC" = Middle of pane, "TCCT" lower right corner, "TTCC" lower left corner, of the pane. There can be some variations from other pane layouts but that should tell you whether they are from a coil printing or booklet. It actually takes longerto explain than to do.
( Of course if you find a single or vertical pair that are "TCTC" that is a vertical coil stamp, or pair.).
The three stamp strip is less common, or from one of the several five stamp strips issued during the 1970-90s.
The five stamp strip is from a vending machine 10p strip issued in the '70s and a bit less easy to find used, although often collected mint.
The three stamp strip looks like it is 60% of a 5p, five stamp strip UMC-1 (Stanley Gibbonese) which would have "2p,½p,½p,1p,1p" in some sequence depending on the vending machine. Also pretty common used.
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Very detailed info! I'll take a closer look at them and try to determine if they're coil or booklet issues.
Thank you for your help,
WB
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"The middle of the top row, "½p, 1p" pair looks like it is from DP 31, a booklet pane of six, five stamps, ½p, ½p, 1p, 1p, & 7p plus a label "remember the post code.""
can I ask what is the reference source for this "DP 31" ?? I assume that there are a multitude of booklet panes for the Machins over the years.
also, the sheets that these multi-valued booklet panes are cut from, are there any "full" sheets out there? I would love to see what a full sheet looks like, especially those with labels thrown into the mix.
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The booklet panes references are those of Great Britain Decimal Stamp Booklet Study Circle ( also quoted in The Connoisseur Catalogue of Machin Stamps.
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12:56:43pm
" ... I would love to see what a full sheet looks like, especially those with labels thrown into the mix. ..."
I've not seen a full sheet anywhere, but there is a diagram in the Deegam Handbook that shows the layout.
Perhaps one of the Mint Machin collectors can provide a scan for us.
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The Canada stamps are definitely from a booklet. I'll poke through "The Hoard" tonight if I get a chance - I might uncover an old one that has those stamps in it to give you a reference.
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These were mentioned in another unrelated thread, but rather then get off topic...
How common are/were these? Any other info also appreciated.
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01 Apr 2016
12:43:52pm
re: Multi-Value Machins & Canada
The pairs are mostly from four and six stamp booklet panes. Pretty common.
The middle of the top row, "½p, 1p" pair looks like it is from DP 31, a booklet pane of six, five stamps, ½p, ½p, 1p, 1p, & 7p plus a label "remember the post code."
My eyes can't make the perfs out. If they were cut top and bottom they are coils.
If they were cut left or right and/or bottom they are from booklet panes.
We check whether the perfs were cut (straight cut tips) or torn(Rough perf tips) from the top edge of each stamp clockwise; "CTCT" Horizontal coil; "TCTT" or "TTTC" = Middle of pane, "TCCT" lower right corner, "TTCC" lower left corner, of the pane. There can be some variations from other pane layouts but that should tell you whether they are from a coil printing or booklet. It actually takes longerto explain than to do.
( Of course if you find a single or vertical pair that are "TCTC" that is a vertical coil stamp, or pair.).
The three stamp strip is less common, or from one of the several five stamp strips issued during the 1970-90s.
The five stamp strip is from a vending machine 10p strip issued in the '70s and a bit less easy to find used, although often collected mint.
The three stamp strip looks like it is 60% of a 5p, five stamp strip UMC-1 (Stanley Gibbonese) which would have "2p,½p,½p,1p,1p" in some sequence depending on the vending machine. Also pretty common used.
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Very detailed info! I'll take a closer look at them and try to determine if they're coil or booklet issues.
Thank you for your help,
WB
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01:30:37pm
re: Multi-Value Machins & Canada
"The middle of the top row, "½p, 1p" pair looks like it is from DP 31, a booklet pane of six, five stamps, ½p, ½p, 1p, 1p, & 7p plus a label "remember the post code.""
can I ask what is the reference source for this "DP 31" ?? I assume that there are a multitude of booklet panes for the Machins over the years.
also, the sheets that these multi-valued booklet panes are cut from, are there any "full" sheets out there? I would love to see what a full sheet looks like, especially those with labels thrown into the mix.
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11:02:06am
re: Multi-Value Machins & Canada
The booklet panes references are those of Great Britain Decimal Stamp Booklet Study Circle ( also quoted in The Connoisseur Catalogue of Machin Stamps.
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04 Apr 2016
12:56:43pm
re: Multi-Value Machins & Canada
" ... I would love to see what a full sheet looks like, especially those with labels thrown into the mix. ..."
I've not seen a full sheet anywhere, but there is a diagram in the Deegam Handbook that shows the layout.
Perhaps one of the Mint Machin collectors can provide a scan for us.
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re: Multi-Value Machins & Canada
The Canada stamps are definitely from a booklet. I'll poke through "The Hoard" tonight if I get a chance - I might uncover an old one that has those stamps in it to give you a reference.
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