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Apart for the major collectible areas I have focused on, I have noticed that over the years I have often drifted towards some stranger collection areas. Take for example the smaller countries of Europe. Vatican, San Marion, Malta, Monaco, Andorra, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg. Well, I collect them all.
Or take some strange topical areas... Birds, I gave up on as too widely collected, but I once started on Judo as a topical, and I have looked at Bats (I used to be a spelunker, once, and bats are the only flying mammal!)
But nothing in my unusual collections will top: "Save the Nubia".
Now, how does one get to pick such a collection area. Accident and too much alcohol? In my case, I ran into a Beall's publication Specialty album on "Save the Nubia" and given my other main focus (Middle East), I just had to buy it...especially since it was at bargain prices..and the seller had not been able to find a buyer in more than 3 years (so he said). I must say that initially I just thought I would add stamps to my Middle East collection, and forget the topical focus.
It is now almost complete, although from time to time I discover something I had not spotted before, and one can always find things to add.
A little bit of history and a link: http://whc.unesco.org/en/activities/172/
""In 1954 the decision to build the Aswan High Dam was made. This dam would lead to the creation of a huge artificial lake covering the Upper Nile Valley from Aswan in Egypt to the Dal Cataract in Sudan - a culturally extremely rich area, which has been known as Nubia since antiquity.
In 1959 the Egyptian and the Sudanese Governments requested UNESCO to assist their countries in the protection and rescue of the endangered monuments and sites. In 1960, UNESCO launched an appeal to the Member States for an International Campaign to Save the Monuments of Nubia. This appeal resulted in the excavation and recording of hundreds of sites, the recovery of thousands of objects, and the salvage and relocation of a number of important temples to higher ground, the most famous of them the temple complexes of Abu Simbel and Philae. The campaign ended on 10 March 1980 as a complete and spectacular success.""
Now for the philatelic part:
As part of this campaign a number of countries issued under the auspices of the UN a series of stamps to commemorate the effort to save the monuments. In my collection I have the original 46 individual countries (several issued multiple sets, and there were many perfed and imperfed sets, as well as S/S)! I am now starting to focus on FDCs related to this period and I have also discovered more commemoratives issued for the 50th anniversary of the campaign, which I now am beginning to research to add to the collection.
So for those who like "strange collections" here are a few selected pages. At the latest WestPex show there was a display of a Cockroach Specialty award winning exhibit! Well, while I don't expect to top that one, but what other "strange areas" do you collect?
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Our own David Teisler is a topical collector of bats;
I myself collect cheetahs;
my wife collects honeybees;
our friend Doe has a (very small) collection of "little black dogs in the background";
I did see that cockroach exhibit at the Grand Rapids APS show - who would have thought there would be enough items/stamps/covers out there to put together an entire exhibit on cockroaches?!? ....or want to?? LOL
Good topic, Ralph!
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Love those "odd ball" topics Randy (Musicman). Please share.
Incidentally, is anyone interested in the sharing of the table of content and reference Scott #s (or other catalogues) of these odd ball topicals. It would save an awful lot of time to one's efforts. My Europa could never have progressed as it did without the specialty reference Europa Michel catalog, but most topicals could use some references...and I know the APS groups does maintain some...but what about the really odd ones?
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"... is anyone interested in the sharing of the table of content and reference Scott #s (or other catalogues) of these odd ball topicals. It would save an awful lot of time ... most topicals could use some references ... what about the really odd ones? ..."
Hey! Who are you calling 'odd'?
From the preceding posts:
Bats (391)
Bees / Beekeeping (insect) (747)
Cockroaches (insect) (14)
Martial Arts - Judo / Karate (376)
Martial Arts - Tae Kwon Do (76)
Martial Arts (misc/other) (49)
Nubian Monuments / Egyptology (252)
Okay, so no cheetahs ... yet ... but you can always make one!
The American Topical Association (ATA)
The ATA topical checklists
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey
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The ATA lists 3026 items under 'World War Two', details of which would therefore cost me a little over $30. But what would I be getting for this outlay? Would it be a computer-generated list from Scott based on certain key words, or has an enthusiastic collector been through all the catalogues stamp by stamp? Would it contain, for example, everyone depicted on a stamp who had (to take two examples) died as a result of that conflict, or fought in a resistance against enemy occupation? As a service to its members, I'd expect it to be a very basic 'starter list' rather than an attempt to be comprehensive. (But I expect it would contain all those souvenir sheets issued by small islands and even non-combatant entities designed to attract attention from topical collectors!)
I'd be happy to submit the extensive list of catalogue numbers of my own collection, but (a) what I consider worth including, and leaving out, might be disappointing, if not contentious, to the next collector, and (b) it would be in Stanley Gibbons numbers, and therefore of very limited use to most of you here.
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Interesting thread. For me personally, I have cut down on my collecting interests and collect only about 7 or 8 countries. I do have a topical theme, and, that is martial arts on stamps. Trouble with that topic though is that a lot of people confused normal boxing or wrestling as a martial arts. In 'most cases' they are not, though there are some exceptions. Having stated this, I still come across a few here and there. The fun is in the hunt.
Chimo
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Guthrum ...
To answer your question about the American Topical Association lists; they are lists that are compiled by ATA members from their own collections. The lists are merged together into a single reference. The lists may be primarily listed by Scott catalog numbers, but many also contain Michel, Yvert and SG as well (it depends from whom the list was received).
However, your basic premise is correct. The lists submitted are, of course listings of the items that are considered inclusive in the opinion of the collector that supplied the list. For example, if I sent in a list of my Red Cross Centenary collection, it would only contain stamps that were issued to commemorate the centenary of the International Red Cross in 1963, or in commemoration of the 1959 centenary of the Red Cross Idea. That would only be a small portion of the Red Cross topical list you would see from the ATA.
The ATA lists are, as you say, intended as a starting point to help collectors get a start on putting together a topical collection, or to show other topical collectors some stamps they may have overlooked for their collecting interests.
Cheers,
Terry.
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Happy to see that someone else is collecting on Save the Nubian Monuments. Being an Archaeologist and Heritage Professional, these issues are always fascinating for me. I am also collecting Save the Nubian Monuments Issues and already have issues from 45 countries along with imperf proof, Delux card, FDC, used cover, Artist die Proof from many countries. I am interested to know is there any exhibit on this 'Save the Nubian Issues' exhibited in any International Stamp Exhibition? As I am trying to prepare an exhibit, I am very confused if it will go under Traditional Philately Class as an Omnibus Series or in some other class of the exhibition. Besides, I would also like to know (if possible) how much fund was contributed to the UNESCO Campaign Trust by selling the postage stamps/ or funds provided by the specific countries solely from selling stamps.
I will be happy to hear from your valuable and resourceful opinion
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I know this isn't stamps but... My wife had a fairly large collection of Black Cat Good Luck Postcards. That always seemed a bit weird to me, but there are lots of them out there!
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Hassan: The February 1960 issue of the UNESCO Courier had a special edition on "Save the treasures of Nubia". It should be available on line in their archives.
I have come across an article on the postage stamps in: www.earsathome.com/nubia and also on www.owasuorg/primer-files/primer-nubia-db.html I have no checked to see if these links are still active.
There was an article in he APS Philatelic exhibitor (April 1994) on a special stamp exhibit at an APS show on "the stamps issued to save the monuments of Nubia" by Caroline V. Scannell. I had written to her, but unfortunately never received an answer. She mentioned 50 countries and a full frame exhibit, but my collection (needs more work in particular for FDC) has only 49, and I as trying to find out what I was missing, (but I have found some more since then).
Here is, if it is any help (and it is really a working file, not a final file) the list from my collection:
I guess I may take another look at what I am missing. Have not been working on it for a while.
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it was fun to revisit this page, and sad, as it contained posts by, or references to, a large number of our members who have died: Ian (Guthrum), Doe, Michael (ikey), all really special for who they were an odd for what they collected.
I guess in a way, we collect memories of departed friends.
And I am lucky to have been captivated by Doe's Local Post (tad pole), so I have some of her creations in my collection (it's the only local post I collect) .
Sorry to take us off topic, but the realization of how many other odd balls have already left us just hit me.
David
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Strange Collections
Apart for the major collectible areas I have focused on, I have noticed that over the years I have often drifted towards some stranger collection areas. Take for example the smaller countries of Europe. Vatican, San Marion, Malta, Monaco, Andorra, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg. Well, I collect them all.
Or take some strange topical areas... Birds, I gave up on as too widely collected, but I once started on Judo as a topical, and I have looked at Bats (I used to be a spelunker, once, and bats are the only flying mammal!)
But nothing in my unusual collections will top: "Save the Nubia".
Now, how does one get to pick such a collection area. Accident and too much alcohol? In my case, I ran into a Beall's publication Specialty album on "Save the Nubia" and given my other main focus (Middle East), I just had to buy it...especially since it was at bargain prices..and the seller had not been able to find a buyer in more than 3 years (so he said). I must say that initially I just thought I would add stamps to my Middle East collection, and forget the topical focus.
It is now almost complete, although from time to time I discover something I had not spotted before, and one can always find things to add.
A little bit of history and a link: http://whc.unesco.org/en/activities/172/
""In 1954 the decision to build the Aswan High Dam was made. This dam would lead to the creation of a huge artificial lake covering the Upper Nile Valley from Aswan in Egypt to the Dal Cataract in Sudan - a culturally extremely rich area, which has been known as Nubia since antiquity.
In 1959 the Egyptian and the Sudanese Governments requested UNESCO to assist their countries in the protection and rescue of the endangered monuments and sites. In 1960, UNESCO launched an appeal to the Member States for an International Campaign to Save the Monuments of Nubia. This appeal resulted in the excavation and recording of hundreds of sites, the recovery of thousands of objects, and the salvage and relocation of a number of important temples to higher ground, the most famous of them the temple complexes of Abu Simbel and Philae. The campaign ended on 10 March 1980 as a complete and spectacular success.""
Now for the philatelic part:
As part of this campaign a number of countries issued under the auspices of the UN a series of stamps to commemorate the effort to save the monuments. In my collection I have the original 46 individual countries (several issued multiple sets, and there were many perfed and imperfed sets, as well as S/S)! I am now starting to focus on FDCs related to this period and I have also discovered more commemoratives issued for the 50th anniversary of the campaign, which I now am beginning to research to add to the collection.
So for those who like "strange collections" here are a few selected pages. At the latest WestPex show there was a display of a Cockroach Specialty award winning exhibit! Well, while I don't expect to top that one, but what other "strange areas" do you collect?
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Our own David Teisler is a topical collector of bats;
I myself collect cheetahs;
my wife collects honeybees;
our friend Doe has a (very small) collection of "little black dogs in the background";
I did see that cockroach exhibit at the Grand Rapids APS show - who would have thought there would be enough items/stamps/covers out there to put together an entire exhibit on cockroaches?!? ....or want to?? LOL
Good topic, Ralph!
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Love those "odd ball" topics Randy (Musicman). Please share.
Incidentally, is anyone interested in the sharing of the table of content and reference Scott #s (or other catalogues) of these odd ball topicals. It would save an awful lot of time to one's efforts. My Europa could never have progressed as it did without the specialty reference Europa Michel catalog, but most topicals could use some references...and I know the APS groups does maintain some...but what about the really odd ones?
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"... is anyone interested in the sharing of the table of content and reference Scott #s (or other catalogues) of these odd ball topicals. It would save an awful lot of time ... most topicals could use some references ... what about the really odd ones? ..."
Hey! Who are you calling 'odd'?
From the preceding posts:
Bats (391)
Bees / Beekeeping (insect) (747)
Cockroaches (insect) (14)
Martial Arts - Judo / Karate (376)
Martial Arts - Tae Kwon Do (76)
Martial Arts (misc/other) (49)
Nubian Monuments / Egyptology (252)
Okay, so no cheetahs ... yet ... but you can always make one!
The American Topical Association (ATA)
The ATA topical checklists
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey
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The ATA lists 3026 items under 'World War Two', details of which would therefore cost me a little over $30. But what would I be getting for this outlay? Would it be a computer-generated list from Scott based on certain key words, or has an enthusiastic collector been through all the catalogues stamp by stamp? Would it contain, for example, everyone depicted on a stamp who had (to take two examples) died as a result of that conflict, or fought in a resistance against enemy occupation? As a service to its members, I'd expect it to be a very basic 'starter list' rather than an attempt to be comprehensive. (But I expect it would contain all those souvenir sheets issued by small islands and even non-combatant entities designed to attract attention from topical collectors!)
I'd be happy to submit the extensive list of catalogue numbers of my own collection, but (a) what I consider worth including, and leaving out, might be disappointing, if not contentious, to the next collector, and (b) it would be in Stanley Gibbons numbers, and therefore of very limited use to most of you here.
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Interesting thread. For me personally, I have cut down on my collecting interests and collect only about 7 or 8 countries. I do have a topical theme, and, that is martial arts on stamps. Trouble with that topic though is that a lot of people confused normal boxing or wrestling as a martial arts. In 'most cases' they are not, though there are some exceptions. Having stated this, I still come across a few here and there. The fun is in the hunt.
Chimo
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Guthrum ...
To answer your question about the American Topical Association lists; they are lists that are compiled by ATA members from their own collections. The lists are merged together into a single reference. The lists may be primarily listed by Scott catalog numbers, but many also contain Michel, Yvert and SG as well (it depends from whom the list was received).
However, your basic premise is correct. The lists submitted are, of course listings of the items that are considered inclusive in the opinion of the collector that supplied the list. For example, if I sent in a list of my Red Cross Centenary collection, it would only contain stamps that were issued to commemorate the centenary of the International Red Cross in 1963, or in commemoration of the 1959 centenary of the Red Cross Idea. That would only be a small portion of the Red Cross topical list you would see from the ATA.
The ATA lists are, as you say, intended as a starting point to help collectors get a start on putting together a topical collection, or to show other topical collectors some stamps they may have overlooked for their collecting interests.
Cheers,
Terry.
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Happy to see that someone else is collecting on Save the Nubian Monuments. Being an Archaeologist and Heritage Professional, these issues are always fascinating for me. I am also collecting Save the Nubian Monuments Issues and already have issues from 45 countries along with imperf proof, Delux card, FDC, used cover, Artist die Proof from many countries. I am interested to know is there any exhibit on this 'Save the Nubian Issues' exhibited in any International Stamp Exhibition? As I am trying to prepare an exhibit, I am very confused if it will go under Traditional Philately Class as an Omnibus Series or in some other class of the exhibition. Besides, I would also like to know (if possible) how much fund was contributed to the UNESCO Campaign Trust by selling the postage stamps/ or funds provided by the specific countries solely from selling stamps.
I will be happy to hear from your valuable and resourceful opinion
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I know this isn't stamps but... My wife had a fairly large collection of Black Cat Good Luck Postcards. That always seemed a bit weird to me, but there are lots of them out there!
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Hassan: The February 1960 issue of the UNESCO Courier had a special edition on "Save the treasures of Nubia". It should be available on line in their archives.
I have come across an article on the postage stamps in: www.earsathome.com/nubia and also on www.owasuorg/primer-files/primer-nubia-db.html I have no checked to see if these links are still active.
There was an article in he APS Philatelic exhibitor (April 1994) on a special stamp exhibit at an APS show on "the stamps issued to save the monuments of Nubia" by Caroline V. Scannell. I had written to her, but unfortunately never received an answer. She mentioned 50 countries and a full frame exhibit, but my collection (needs more work in particular for FDC) has only 49, and I as trying to find out what I was missing, (but I have found some more since then).
Here is, if it is any help (and it is really a working file, not a final file) the list from my collection:
I guess I may take another look at what I am missing. Have not been working on it for a while.
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it was fun to revisit this page, and sad, as it contained posts by, or references to, a large number of our members who have died: Ian (Guthrum), Doe, Michael (ikey), all really special for who they were an odd for what they collected.
I guess in a way, we collect memories of departed friends.
And I am lucky to have been captivated by Doe's Local Post (tad pole), so I have some of her creations in my collection (it's the only local post I collect) .
Sorry to take us off topic, but the realization of how many other odd balls have already left us just hit me.
David
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