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Europe/Great Britain : Date abbreviations on cancellations?

 

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jthurd
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26 Jun 2016
12:23:29am
For those who might know, I have a question. Is the two-letter abbreviation JU used by the Royal Mail in cancelling stamps to indicate the month specific to either June or July or might it be either? Most postmarks I have seen on GB Machins use the three-letter abbreviations JNE for June and JLY for July, but some, such as those illustrated below, simply use the two-letter abbreviation JU.

Is the cancellation date ambiguous, or can one date these specifically?

JU 5, 1972
JU 23, 1972
JU 28, 1972

June? July?

J. T. Hurd.

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Ningpo
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26 Jun 2016
06:07:23am
re: Date abbreviations on cancellations?

June, whereas July is abbreviated JY.

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malcolm197

26 Jun 2016
02:33:39pm
re: Date abbreviations on cancellations?

It is a shame that the first strike is not complete. This is a counter stamp obviously from a small sub post office. Ware is not a particularly large town, so this is from one of a small number of outlying town offices, or possibly nearby rural office. Not valuable but not common.

Malcolm

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jthurd
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26 Jun 2016
04:50:26pm
re: Date abbreviations on cancellations?

Thanks to each of you for responding.

JTH

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nigelc
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27 Jun 2016
03:42:10pm
re: Date abbreviations on cancellations?

The first postmark may be STANSTEAD ABBOTTS / WARE. HERTS

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..

28 Jun 2016
07:36:07pm
re: Date abbreviations on cancellations?

Imagine the money saved in ink
by using just two letters
instead of a wasteful three letters
to determine the date of cancellation.
Every little bit counts.

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Ningpo
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28 Jun 2016
09:33:18pm
re: Date abbreviations on cancellations?

"Every little bit counts."



Oh yes....

January 9th 1972

Miners go on strike for the first time since 1926.

February 9th 1972

British Government announces 3 day working week introduced to save electricity.

February 11th 1972

Post Office announces ink austerity measures on postal markings. Known as Black Ink Friday.

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khj
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28 Jun 2016
09:56:38pm
re: Date abbreviations on cancellations?

Here in the states, considering all the packages I get with uncancelled stamps on them, I think USPS has inadvertently come up with their own solution to reducing ink usage...

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..

29 Jun 2016
12:56:22pm
re: Date abbreviations on cancellations?

" ... Here in the states, considering all the packages I get with un-cancelled stamps on them, ..."

Possibly both RM and USPS are in cahoots in that, as much of the mail I get from the UK lacks even a cancel on the cover that would just mean the stamp was not in the correct place and thus creating, from the number of "For the specialist one, two, or even three hundred postally used unconcealed stamps. For specialists to study, of course." blue and gold NVI stamps I see advertised, thus creating a cottage industry.

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jthurd

26 Jun 2016
12:23:29am

For those who might know, I have a question. Is the two-letter abbreviation JU used by the Royal Mail in cancelling stamps to indicate the month specific to either June or July or might it be either? Most postmarks I have seen on GB Machins use the three-letter abbreviations JNE for June and JLY for July, but some, such as those illustrated below, simply use the two-letter abbreviation JU.

Is the cancellation date ambiguous, or can one date these specifically?

JU 5, 1972
JU 23, 1972
JU 28, 1972

June? July?

J. T. Hurd.

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Ningpo

26 Jun 2016
06:07:23am

re: Date abbreviations on cancellations?

June, whereas July is abbreviated JY.

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malcolm197

26 Jun 2016
02:33:39pm

re: Date abbreviations on cancellations?

It is a shame that the first strike is not complete. This is a counter stamp obviously from a small sub post office. Ware is not a particularly large town, so this is from one of a small number of outlying town offices, or possibly nearby rural office. Not valuable but not common.

Malcolm

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jthurd

26 Jun 2016
04:50:26pm

re: Date abbreviations on cancellations?

Thanks to each of you for responding.

JTH

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nigelc

27 Jun 2016
03:42:10pm

re: Date abbreviations on cancellations?

The first postmark may be STANSTEAD ABBOTTS / WARE. HERTS

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
28 Jun 2016
07:36:07pm

re: Date abbreviations on cancellations?

Imagine the money saved in ink
by using just two letters
instead of a wasteful three letters
to determine the date of cancellation.
Every little bit counts.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
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Ningpo

28 Jun 2016
09:33:18pm

re: Date abbreviations on cancellations?

"Every little bit counts."



Oh yes....

January 9th 1972

Miners go on strike for the first time since 1926.

February 9th 1972

British Government announces 3 day working week introduced to save electricity.

February 11th 1972

Post Office announces ink austerity measures on postal markings. Known as Black Ink Friday.

Big Grin

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khj

28 Jun 2016
09:56:38pm

re: Date abbreviations on cancellations?

Here in the states, considering all the packages I get with uncancelled stamps on them, I think USPS has inadvertently come up with their own solution to reducing ink usage...

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
29 Jun 2016
12:56:22pm

re: Date abbreviations on cancellations?

" ... Here in the states, considering all the packages I get with un-cancelled stamps on them, ..."

Possibly both RM and USPS are in cahoots in that, as much of the mail I get from the UK lacks even a cancel on the cover that would just mean the stamp was not in the correct place and thus creating, from the number of "For the specialist one, two, or even three hundred postally used unconcealed stamps. For specialists to study, of course." blue and gold NVI stamps I see advertised, thus creating a cottage industry.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
        

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