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Guthrum
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09 Jul 2016
05:52:43am
Here's a postcard or photograph (completely blank on the reverse), but can anyone suggest where it was taken, and roughly when?

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ernieinjax
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09 Jul 2016
06:25:34am
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The statues look more Roman than Greek to me but the buildings don't look anything like Italy. The bus suggests 1930s.

With the wide, expansive streets and sidewalks, the look of the lamp posts, and the dress of the people in the foreground I'm going to say somewhere in Germany.

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Ningpo
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09 Jul 2016
07:38:26am
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Stalinallee (now Karl Marx Allee). I would say early 1950's.

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09 Jul 2016
07:42:44am
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My guess would be that it is the Stalinallee in what once was East Berlin - now called the Karl Marx Allee. Somewhere in the late 1950's. Here's another picture:

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Buildings, statue, lanterns are similar if not the same.

Oops, Ningpo just beat me to it....

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09 Jul 2016
08:02:31am
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Here's an image of Stalinallee showing the exact same statues on the left. This was taken in 1953.


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Tom in Exton, PA

09 Jul 2016
10:47:41am

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I was just thinking about that thread "Should I belong to an on-line stamp club"?

One of the many benefits of an on-line community is ability to crowd source a question and get an instant answer from the brain trust here. The location of the photo was identified within an hour. Otherwise Clive could have been wondering for years!


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09 Jul 2016
04:14:55pm
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Many thanks to Clive and Gerben for identifying this scene so quickly as Berlin. I have actually been wondering for years (I bought it in 1997 as a theatrical prop for a play set around the Warsaw Uprising), and so the next job is to find an excuse for displaying it in my stamp album!

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09 Jul 2016
04:33:51pm
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"One of the many benefits of an on-line community is ability to crowd source a question and get an instant answer from the brain trust here."




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09 Jul 2016
04:38:16pm
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"... the next job is to find an excuse for displaying it in my stamp album! ..."



The gold standard of stamp collecting has always been the Single Stamp Study ...

... and your stamp is The DDR 1957 20pf Berlin Stalinallee!

Cheers,

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09 Jul 2016
04:39:43pm
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Dang Guthrum! You can't give me 1/2 thanks??? I knew that it was over in that there Germany.Rolling On The Floor Laughing

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09 Jul 2016
04:44:57pm
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Anyone have a picture of what it looks like today?

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09 Jul 2016
04:49:58pm
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"... You can't give me 1/2 thanks??? I knew that it was over in that there Germany ..."



Serves you right. I thought "Commie Bauhaus", but knew the complete answer would be forthcoming without my 2c.

Cheers,

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09 Jul 2016
06:22:19pm
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This 2012 image suggests a somewhat genteel boulevard. Another picture of Karl-Marx Allee however, showing the intersection with Alexanderplatz, shows a grotesque 10 lane 'superstrasse' with parking area in the middle.


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Back to Stalinallee in 1963, where automobile owners had a vast choice of models, such as the Trabant and the Trabant; then there was the Trabant and of course the 'rally lamp, go faster grill' er... Trabant:


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09 Jul 2016
06:54:13pm
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Apologies, ernie. Half a thank to you in addition to all other thanks!

We seem to have a summer photo and a winter photo. The trees have been planted since the 1930s/1950s. The Trabant picture is rather sad and you could be excused for thinking it to be a modern satirical mock-up.

I notice from the colour photo that it's still not a thoroughfare much used by pedestrians.

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09 Jul 2016
07:34:05pm

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"Back to Stalinallee in 1963, where automobile owners had a vast choice of models, such as the Trabant and the Trabant; then there was the Trabant and of course the 'rally lamp, go faster grill' er... Trabant:
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To be fair there are a couple of Russian Ladas mixed in. People were on the waiting list for years for those Trabbies! Today there's a cult following for them!
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Ningpo
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09 Jul 2016
07:52:28pm
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Hmm. I've never quite understood the desire for that type of 'retro' collecting. Candlestick telephones, valve radios, analogue record decks; yes. But a veehickle with a two stroke engine fed by a gravity fuel tank sitting on top of it; no siree.

Unless of course these are all modified for safety.

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09 Jul 2016
11:55:56pm
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Thanks for the picture, Ningpo!

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10 Jul 2016
02:03:21pm
re: Any idea where this is?

"The gold standard of stamp collecting has always been the Single Stamp Study ...

... and your stamp is The DDR 1957 20pf Berlin Stalinallee!"



Oh, look, here it is, from deep inside a stockbook marked 'Other Europe':

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Thanks, iP, for this reference - goes to show that portrait is not the best format for illustrating a long, wide boulevard!

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10 Jul 2016
02:17:46pm
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Oh wow.. amazing, looks like the photograph was used as a model for the stamp. Perfect!

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10 Jul 2016
03:21:07pm
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"... Oh, look, here it is, from deep inside a stockbook marked 'Other Europe' ..."



Your stockbooks have labels !?!?!

Puts you one up on me At Wits End

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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10 Jul 2016
05:04:26pm
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"Oh wow.. amazing, looks like the photograph was used as a model for the stamp. Perfect!"




Well that does seem to be a curious coincidence, particularly as Guthrum's photo doesn't seem to be on the internet.

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11 Jul 2016
02:49:00am

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"To be fair there are a couple of Russian Ladas mixed in. People were on the waiting list for years for those Trabbies! Today there's a cult following for them!"


I think I see a Wartburg as well. Happy

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Guthrum

09 Jul 2016
05:52:43am

Here's a postcard or photograph (completely blank on the reverse), but can anyone suggest where it was taken, and roughly when?

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ernieinjax

09 Jul 2016
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re: Any idea where this is?

The statues look more Roman than Greek to me but the buildings don't look anything like Italy. The bus suggests 1930s.

With the wide, expansive streets and sidewalks, the look of the lamp posts, and the dress of the people in the foreground I'm going to say somewhere in Germany.

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Ningpo

09 Jul 2016
07:38:26am

re: Any idea where this is?

Stalinallee (now Karl Marx Allee). I would say early 1950's.

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09 Jul 2016
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re: Any idea where this is?

My guess would be that it is the Stalinallee in what once was East Berlin - now called the Karl Marx Allee. Somewhere in the late 1950's. Here's another picture:

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Buildings, statue, lanterns are similar if not the same.

Oops, Ningpo just beat me to it....

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09 Jul 2016
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re: Any idea where this is?

Here's an image of Stalinallee showing the exact same statues on the left. This was taken in 1953.


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09 Jul 2016
10:47:41am

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I was just thinking about that thread "Should I belong to an on-line stamp club"?

One of the many benefits of an on-line community is ability to crowd source a question and get an instant answer from the brain trust here. The location of the photo was identified within an hour. Otherwise Clive could have been wondering for years!


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09 Jul 2016
04:14:55pm

re: Any idea where this is?

Many thanks to Clive and Gerben for identifying this scene so quickly as Berlin. I have actually been wondering for years (I bought it in 1997 as a theatrical prop for a play set around the Warsaw Uprising), and so the next job is to find an excuse for displaying it in my stamp album!

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09 Jul 2016
04:33:51pm

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"One of the many benefits of an on-line community is ability to crowd source a question and get an instant answer from the brain trust here."




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09 Jul 2016
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re: Any idea where this is?

"... the next job is to find an excuse for displaying it in my stamp album! ..."



The gold standard of stamp collecting has always been the Single Stamp Study ...

... and your stamp is The DDR 1957 20pf Berlin Stalinallee!

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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09 Jul 2016
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Dang Guthrum! You can't give me 1/2 thanks??? I knew that it was over in that there Germany.Rolling On The Floor Laughing

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09 Jul 2016
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Anyone have a picture of what it looks like today?

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09 Jul 2016
04:49:58pm

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"... You can't give me 1/2 thanks??? I knew that it was over in that there Germany ..."



Serves you right. I thought "Commie Bauhaus", but knew the complete answer would be forthcoming without my 2c.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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09 Jul 2016
06:22:19pm

re: Any idea where this is?

This 2012 image suggests a somewhat genteel boulevard. Another picture of Karl-Marx Allee however, showing the intersection with Alexanderplatz, shows a grotesque 10 lane 'superstrasse' with parking area in the middle.


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Back to Stalinallee in 1963, where automobile owners had a vast choice of models, such as the Trabant and the Trabant; then there was the Trabant and of course the 'rally lamp, go faster grill' er... Trabant:


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09 Jul 2016
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Apologies, ernie. Half a thank to you in addition to all other thanks!

We seem to have a summer photo and a winter photo. The trees have been planted since the 1930s/1950s. The Trabant picture is rather sad and you could be excused for thinking it to be a modern satirical mock-up.

I notice from the colour photo that it's still not a thoroughfare much used by pedestrians.

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"Back to Stalinallee in 1963, where automobile owners had a vast choice of models, such as the Trabant and the Trabant; then there was the Trabant and of course the 'rally lamp, go faster grill' er... Trabant:
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To be fair there are a couple of Russian Ladas mixed in. People were on the waiting list for years for those Trabbies! Today there's a cult following for them!
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Hmm. I've never quite understood the desire for that type of 'retro' collecting. Candlestick telephones, valve radios, analogue record decks; yes. But a veehickle with a two stroke engine fed by a gravity fuel tank sitting on top of it; no siree.

Unless of course these are all modified for safety.

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09 Jul 2016
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Thanks for the picture, Ningpo!

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10 Jul 2016
02:03:21pm

re: Any idea where this is?

"The gold standard of stamp collecting has always been the Single Stamp Study ...

... and your stamp is The DDR 1957 20pf Berlin Stalinallee!"



Oh, look, here it is, from deep inside a stockbook marked 'Other Europe':

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Thanks, iP, for this reference - goes to show that portrait is not the best format for illustrating a long, wide boulevard!

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10 Jul 2016
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Oh wow.. amazing, looks like the photograph was used as a model for the stamp. Perfect!

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ikeyPikey

10 Jul 2016
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"... Oh, look, here it is, from deep inside a stockbook marked 'Other Europe' ..."



Your stockbooks have labels !?!?!

Puts you one up on me At Wits End

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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10 Jul 2016
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"Oh wow.. amazing, looks like the photograph was used as a model for the stamp. Perfect!"




Well that does seem to be a curious coincidence, particularly as Guthrum's photo doesn't seem to be on the internet.

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"To be fair there are a couple of Russian Ladas mixed in. People were on the waiting list for years for those Trabbies! Today there's a cult following for them!"


I think I see a Wartburg as well. Happy

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