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My Steiner pages only allow for the 4 separate stamps in this set, but I have them in blocks of 4 with the selvedge. If they were yours, would you create your own pages to mount them in blocks, or separate the singles to go on the existing pages?
One aspect is that I'm planning on selling the duplicates from this batch of DDR stamps I'm working with through the SOR approval books and the 3 extra sets created from separating the singles would go into the book. These aren't particularly valuable stamps, so I doubt there is any inherent added value in leaving them in the blocks of 4, so basically I'm just wondering how others would approach it.
Thanks for any input, here are the stamps.
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Those are actually miniature sheets, and they are listed in the catalog as such. Singles have major catalog numbers, and the miniature sheets have minor numbers.
If you collect miniature sheets, then create a page for them. If you don't, and need the singles, then break the sheets apart. The stamps are minimal value either as singles or in the sheet, so you wouldn't be breaking up anything valuable.
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Robert:
I find that I can get just about any Germany/DDR single I want very easily and inexpensively, but mini-sheets and souvenir sheets not so much.
It would be a shame to break them up if not necessary. How about offering them on SoR for a trade of sorts - e.g. individuals of these same stamps plus a bit of cash or additional stamps you need.
A win-win for all?
Dave.
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If you have the Steiner cd, print a couple of blank pages with the appropriate headings and keep the ms whole.
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I didn't realize these were mini-sheets, SW doesn't list them as such, only as singles. I ran across a similar case with the Freshwater Fish set, where the Steiner pages only allowed for the singles, but in that case, I have both the singles and what I now assume are also mini-sheets.(?)
Since they were issued as such, I think, as Dave said, it would be a shame to break them up.
Thanks for the input, I'm glad I ask before deciding,
WB
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Steiner makes pages for only some minor listings.
Interesting how the catalogs handle this set.
Scott and Michel give major catalog numbers to the singles. Scott gives minors numbers to the minisheet of four, while Michel notes the minisheets and gives a value. Gibbons, in its world wide catalog, only numbers the minisheets.
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...and StampWorld only lists the singles and makes no mention what-so-ever of the m/s's.
That's just PART of what makes SOR such a great place, the combined knowledge and resources are invaluable, especially to the beginner/novice collector.
As always, the help is very much appreciated!
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I have found it very useful to have different sets of catalogs. This is not so that I can compare values between them all. Rather, it is to use them as reference to find information that one or the other does not provide. That happens more than one might think. Each catalog publisher also lists many stamps that the others do not.
I think these stamps from DDR are a good example of what the different catalogs offer as regards to information. It seems that all three were needed in this case to provide a better picture.
Since I live in the USA, I use Scott catalogs for both value references, and information. I also have Gibbons and Michel catalogs. Since I use those catalogs for non-value reference information, I can use older catalogs without a problem. Nice thing is that when using catalogs just for reference, you can buy older editions and save plenty of money, or even get them free from dealers who throw them away when they get them in collections that they buy. My Gibbons catalogs are from five to nine years old. My Michel catalogs, with one exception, are from the 1990s. The other is from 2006.
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Since getting back into collecting, about a year ago, I've largely depended on the StampWorld's online catalog. It works pretty well for basic identification, but falls way short of any real info or in depth identification of varieties and such.
Because I live at least an hour and a half from the nearest library that MIGHT house a set of catalogs, I will be looking into at least a basic set for myself and maybe even be able to help others as I've been helped here, more then once.
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I find Stampworld Catalog to be an awesome resource - shows pictures for everything, and easy for quickly searching/finding stamps- then I look in Scott's.
I use the Steiner pages, which are generally great, but convert to PowerPoint to do a better job of centring and adding useful info. I have also created a small binder just for Germany/DDR souvenir and mini-sheets to reduce the number of sad blank pages in my albums...
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Even if those were just blocks of four with the cancel in the middle, they would add interest to the collection. Thus, I would create a page for them. In fact my own free form album was created just to be able to include such things!
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Yeah, I did go ahead and design custom pages with proper header and description for these and the "Freshwater Fish" m/s's.
Input heard and advice heeded.
Thanks much,
WB
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As a general point like with covers, postmarks on piece, pairs and blocks.
Never do what cannot be undone.
Who knows how collecting will develop in the future. People collect esoteric items already -and as the use of postage stamps continues to diminish future collectors will look to enhance their collections by adding different aspects and looking at their collection from different angles.
Every time you take action you possibly deprive a future collector of a gem ( in their eyes).
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At the risk of sounding sharp tongued, I respectfully disagree, in part.
I do follow most established guidelines (i.e. hinges or mounts and not Elmers glue) but at the end of the day, it's each of our own collections and I personally give very little thought as to how anyone in the future will look at mine.
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As a DDR collector, I'd cry if those were broken up. Remember that Michel and Gibbons value CTOs with a premium for postal usage of DDR and USSR (rather than "used" cv for postal as one would expect in other countries).
To get a beautiful CTO like that is invaluable to a DDR collector. We often try to see if we can re-create a CTO. Yeah, I know, everyone has their own weird quirks :-D
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Once Michael pointed out that these were miniature sheets, it was an easy decision to keep them intact. I'll just fill the spaces for the singles when I get the chance.
Also, thank you to Kelly for the added info on collecting stamps from the DDR. There were quite a few m/s's, s/s's and blocks of 4 with nice cancels in the estate lot I bought last year. I've kept all of them intact and mounted them in my collection. DDR is an area that I'll very likely build on in the future.
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I realize that these are my stamps and my album and I can do things how ever I want, but just for the sake of discussion and to help me decide, I thought I'd ask before making a decision.
My Steiner pages only allow for the 4 separate stamps in this set, but I have them in blocks of 4 with the selvedge. If they were yours, would you create your own pages to mount them in blocks, or separate the singles to go on the existing pages?
One aspect is that I'm planning on selling the duplicates from this batch of DDR stamps I'm working with through the SOR approval books and the 3 extra sets created from separating the singles would go into the book. These aren't particularly valuable stamps, so I doubt there is any inherent added value in leaving them in the blocks of 4, so basically I'm just wondering how others would approach it.
Thanks for any input, here are the stamps.
WB
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Those are actually miniature sheets, and they are listed in the catalog as such. Singles have major catalog numbers, and the miniature sheets have minor numbers.
If you collect miniature sheets, then create a page for them. If you don't, and need the singles, then break the sheets apart. The stamps are minimal value either as singles or in the sheet, so you wouldn't be breaking up anything valuable.
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Robert:
I find that I can get just about any Germany/DDR single I want very easily and inexpensively, but mini-sheets and souvenir sheets not so much.
It would be a shame to break them up if not necessary. How about offering them on SoR for a trade of sorts - e.g. individuals of these same stamps plus a bit of cash or additional stamps you need.
A win-win for all?
Dave.
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If you have the Steiner cd, print a couple of blank pages with the appropriate headings and keep the ms whole.
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I didn't realize these were mini-sheets, SW doesn't list them as such, only as singles. I ran across a similar case with the Freshwater Fish set, where the Steiner pages only allowed for the singles, but in that case, I have both the singles and what I now assume are also mini-sheets.(?)
Since they were issued as such, I think, as Dave said, it would be a shame to break them up.
Thanks for the input, I'm glad I ask before deciding,
WB
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Steiner makes pages for only some minor listings.
Interesting how the catalogs handle this set.
Scott and Michel give major catalog numbers to the singles. Scott gives minors numbers to the minisheet of four, while Michel notes the minisheets and gives a value. Gibbons, in its world wide catalog, only numbers the minisheets.
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...and StampWorld only lists the singles and makes no mention what-so-ever of the m/s's.
That's just PART of what makes SOR such a great place, the combined knowledge and resources are invaluable, especially to the beginner/novice collector.
As always, the help is very much appreciated!
WB
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re: DDR Blocks of 4
I have found it very useful to have different sets of catalogs. This is not so that I can compare values between them all. Rather, it is to use them as reference to find information that one or the other does not provide. That happens more than one might think. Each catalog publisher also lists many stamps that the others do not.
I think these stamps from DDR are a good example of what the different catalogs offer as regards to information. It seems that all three were needed in this case to provide a better picture.
Since I live in the USA, I use Scott catalogs for both value references, and information. I also have Gibbons and Michel catalogs. Since I use those catalogs for non-value reference information, I can use older catalogs without a problem. Nice thing is that when using catalogs just for reference, you can buy older editions and save plenty of money, or even get them free from dealers who throw them away when they get them in collections that they buy. My Gibbons catalogs are from five to nine years old. My Michel catalogs, with one exception, are from the 1990s. The other is from 2006.
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re: DDR Blocks of 4
Since getting back into collecting, about a year ago, I've largely depended on the StampWorld's online catalog. It works pretty well for basic identification, but falls way short of any real info or in depth identification of varieties and such.
Because I live at least an hour and a half from the nearest library that MIGHT house a set of catalogs, I will be looking into at least a basic set for myself and maybe even be able to help others as I've been helped here, more then once.
WB
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I find Stampworld Catalog to be an awesome resource - shows pictures for everything, and easy for quickly searching/finding stamps- then I look in Scott's.
I use the Steiner pages, which are generally great, but convert to PowerPoint to do a better job of centring and adding useful info. I have also created a small binder just for Germany/DDR souvenir and mini-sheets to reduce the number of sad blank pages in my albums...
Dave.
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Even if those were just blocks of four with the cancel in the middle, they would add interest to the collection. Thus, I would create a page for them. In fact my own free form album was created just to be able to include such things!
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Yeah, I did go ahead and design custom pages with proper header and description for these and the "Freshwater Fish" m/s's.
Input heard and advice heeded.
Thanks much,
WB
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re: DDR Blocks of 4
As a general point like with covers, postmarks on piece, pairs and blocks.
Never do what cannot be undone.
Who knows how collecting will develop in the future. People collect esoteric items already -and as the use of postage stamps continues to diminish future collectors will look to enhance their collections by adding different aspects and looking at their collection from different angles.
Every time you take action you possibly deprive a future collector of a gem ( in their eyes).
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re: DDR Blocks of 4
At the risk of sounding sharp tongued, I respectfully disagree, in part.
I do follow most established guidelines (i.e. hinges or mounts and not Elmers glue) but at the end of the day, it's each of our own collections and I personally give very little thought as to how anyone in the future will look at mine.
WB
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re: DDR Blocks of 4
As a DDR collector, I'd cry if those were broken up. Remember that Michel and Gibbons value CTOs with a premium for postal usage of DDR and USSR (rather than "used" cv for postal as one would expect in other countries).
To get a beautiful CTO like that is invaluable to a DDR collector. We often try to see if we can re-create a CTO. Yeah, I know, everyone has their own weird quirks :-D
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Once Michael pointed out that these were miniature sheets, it was an easy decision to keep them intact. I'll just fill the spaces for the singles when I get the chance.
Also, thank you to Kelly for the added info on collecting stamps from the DDR. There were quite a few m/s's, s/s's and blocks of 4 with nice cancels in the estate lot I bought last year. I've kept all of them intact and mounted them in my collection. DDR is an area that I'll very likely build on in the future.
WB
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