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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Italy or Poland

 

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Dakota
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15 Oct 2016
05:55:58pm

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Image Not FoundCan someone help me identify this stamp. It was printed in Italy but I can't find it in Scott's under Italy or Poland. This might also be a cinderella. Thanks in advance.

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Guthrum
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15 Oct 2016
06:20:57pm
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On the small evidence I have to go on, I'd say your stamp (or set) was issued by the Polish forces in Italy (II Corps) under Gen. Wladyslaw Anders. They did not return, probably wisely, after Italy's capitulation in September 1943, and this set was issued post-war. Warsaw duly deprived Anders and his officers of Polish citizenship.

You may have the overprinted set, issued October 1946.

I have made this note without reference to sources, so please check out anything I've said against your preferred online resource and amend accordingly. The stamps are not listed in the catalogues so far as I know, though Michel usually has everything: the initial set is of 9 stamps (1, 3, 5, 10, 15, 30, 50, 60, 80). The overprints come in either black or red: I have six, the 15 in black, the 30, 60 and 80 in red, and the 50 in both colours. Quite possibly I don't have all of these.

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15 Oct 2016
08:57:40pm

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re: Italy or Poland

Thank you Ian. I noticed that I forgot to include the scan.

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Terry
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16 Oct 2016
02:25:51am
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These stamps are actually Polish. Polish 2nd Corps in Italy WWII. Not listed in Scott, but listed in Sassone #18-22. Cat value 2008 = $15.00 MNH

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Background: After WWII the Polish 2nd Corps stayed in Italy to administer the Barletta-Trani DP camp and generally provide for displaced Poles. This included producing stamps for use on internal Italian post and external mail, by agreement with the Italian government. The series offered in this lot was originally produced in Italian currency with new designs, in two stages with the five values included printed first and then Lira denominations of similar design printed later. These five stamps were later overprinted.

Following the period of postal validity for these stamps 5000 sets were overprinted (apparently, this is based on one estimate) to continue to raise money for displaced Poles and make a political statement directed at the regime which took control of Poland following WWII. The overprints refer to F.D.R.'s famous "Four Freedoms" speech and the overprints expressly state "HONOR THE FOUR FREEDOMS" which is followed by a reproduced signature of Franklin D. Roosevelt. These overprints were applied to different denominations from the 15c to the 80c in red or black and either in English, Polish or French.

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17 Oct 2016
12:52:09pm

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Thanks everybody for the help.

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15 Oct 2016
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Image Not FoundCan someone help me identify this stamp. It was printed in Italy but I can't find it in Scott's under Italy or Poland. This might also be a cinderella. Thanks in advance.

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15 Oct 2016
06:20:57pm

re: Italy or Poland

On the small evidence I have to go on, I'd say your stamp (or set) was issued by the Polish forces in Italy (II Corps) under Gen. Wladyslaw Anders. They did not return, probably wisely, after Italy's capitulation in September 1943, and this set was issued post-war. Warsaw duly deprived Anders and his officers of Polish citizenship.

You may have the overprinted set, issued October 1946.

I have made this note without reference to sources, so please check out anything I've said against your preferred online resource and amend accordingly. The stamps are not listed in the catalogues so far as I know, though Michel usually has everything: the initial set is of 9 stamps (1, 3, 5, 10, 15, 30, 50, 60, 80). The overprints come in either black or red: I have six, the 15 in black, the 30, 60 and 80 in red, and the 50 in both colours. Quite possibly I don't have all of these.

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15 Oct 2016
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Thank you Ian. I noticed that I forgot to include the scan.

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16 Oct 2016
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re: Italy or Poland

These stamps are actually Polish. Polish 2nd Corps in Italy WWII. Not listed in Scott, but listed in Sassone #18-22. Cat value 2008 = $15.00 MNH

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Background: After WWII the Polish 2nd Corps stayed in Italy to administer the Barletta-Trani DP camp and generally provide for displaced Poles. This included producing stamps for use on internal Italian post and external mail, by agreement with the Italian government. The series offered in this lot was originally produced in Italian currency with new designs, in two stages with the five values included printed first and then Lira denominations of similar design printed later. These five stamps were later overprinted.

Following the period of postal validity for these stamps 5000 sets were overprinted (apparently, this is based on one estimate) to continue to raise money for displaced Poles and make a political statement directed at the regime which took control of Poland following WWII. The overprints refer to F.D.R.'s famous "Four Freedoms" speech and the overprints expressly state "HONOR THE FOUR FREEDOMS" which is followed by a reproduced signature of Franklin D. Roosevelt. These overprints were applied to different denominations from the 15c to the 80c in red or black and either in English, Polish or French.

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