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Oceania/Australia : 1 Pound Kangaroo-Map stamp change of color

 

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Winedrinker
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22 Oct 2016
10:59:08pm
The 1-Pound kangaroo/map started out a very attractive ultramarine and brown in 1913. In 1924, the stamp is changed to grey. Does anyone know why that happened?

Seems a shame to go from two-color glory to sooty grey.

Thanks for any information on this.

Eric


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22 Oct 2016
11:46:55pm
re: 1 Pound Kangaroo-Map stamp change of color

Sounds like the original color faded.

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23 Oct 2016
12:05:00am
re: 1 Pound Kangaroo-Map stamp change of color

No, it was a purposeful decision to change colors, I am just curious as to why the decision was made. Below are the roo/map versions of the 1Pound. The 2Pound stamp never switched to a single color by the way.

1913 SG 15 1Pound brown and ultramarine
1916 SG 44 1Pound chocolate and dull blue
1924 SG 75 1Pound grey
1935 SG 137 1Pound grey

Just purchased the 1935 stamp, which got
me interested in the color change.


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23 Oct 2016
12:40:13am
re: 1 Pound Kangaroo-Map stamp change of color

Just found a clue to the color change in a 1978 ACSC Commonwealth Specialists Catalogue.
It states that in 1924 a new plate was made for the 1-pound stamp, and the colour changed to grey. So I take it that what was two plates (one plate for the kangaroo) became one plate for the whole design, like the lower value stamps.

The remaining questions might be why the need for a new plate and why to change the color to grey, and not let it remain blue or brown or another sporty color. As those colors were taken by other values, perhaps all that was left was ... grey?

Someone with more knowledge on these stamps than I will hopefully opine.

Cheers!
Eric

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Oldmanemu

23 Oct 2016
12:46:33am
re: 1 Pound Kangaroo-Map stamp change of color

The Brusden White Catalogue states that the colour was changed to avoid confusion with the 3d King George V.

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23 Oct 2016
01:04:13am
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Thank you Oldmanemu. That is a tasty bit of information.

Funny thing is, the 1924 3d King George V is "dull ultramarine" and not a heck of a lot of contrast from "grey," at least on my time worn versions of the stamps. I see that in 1932 the 3d King George V was changed from "dull ultramarine" to "ultramarine." A markedly bluer stamp.

Anyway, fun stuff. Thanks again.
Eric

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23 Oct 2016
02:21:33am
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Very funny, Wine. You caught me. I thought you meant that you had the stamp and the color of the stamp turned to gray. I see it now, unless you bought the stamp in 1913 and noticed it turned to gray in 1924, but have been confused by the color changeling ever since. OK, long day. I'm going to bed now... Yawn

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23 Oct 2016
05:38:52am
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Australia SG 44 £1 chocolate and dull blue
Watermark 6
Perf 12
Issued Jul 1916

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SG 44a chestnut and bright blue

SG 44b bistre-brown and bright blue

SG 44ba watermark sideways
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23 Oct 2016
09:43:36am
re: 1 Pound Kangaroo-Map stamp change of color

"I see it now, unless you bought the stamp in 1913 and noticed it turned to gray in 1924, but have been confused by the color changeling ever since."



It could happen. Happy These stamps do go through a lot of time zones.

phos45: Thanks for adding the images, very nice indeed. The chocolate and dull blue SG44 is fantastic. I have stamp envy.


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23 Oct 2016
11:37:12am
re: 1 Pound Kangaroo-Map stamp change of color

Just my tuppence worth but why do the catalogue publishers not put the main colour first in the description. It is always what I notice first.

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23 Oct 2016
11:38:54am
re: 1 Pound Kangaroo-Map stamp change of color

Here is my £1 stamp.

1st watermark, colour - red-brown and blue.

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Winedrinker

22 Oct 2016
10:59:08pm

The 1-Pound kangaroo/map started out a very attractive ultramarine and brown in 1913. In 1924, the stamp is changed to grey. Does anyone know why that happened?

Seems a shame to go from two-color glory to sooty grey.

Thanks for any information on this.

Eric


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michael78651

22 Oct 2016
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re: 1 Pound Kangaroo-Map stamp change of color

Sounds like the original color faded.

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23 Oct 2016
12:05:00am

re: 1 Pound Kangaroo-Map stamp change of color

No, it was a purposeful decision to change colors, I am just curious as to why the decision was made. Below are the roo/map versions of the 1Pound. The 2Pound stamp never switched to a single color by the way.

1913 SG 15 1Pound brown and ultramarine
1916 SG 44 1Pound chocolate and dull blue
1924 SG 75 1Pound grey
1935 SG 137 1Pound grey

Just purchased the 1935 stamp, which got
me interested in the color change.


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Winedrinker

23 Oct 2016
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re: 1 Pound Kangaroo-Map stamp change of color

Just found a clue to the color change in a 1978 ACSC Commonwealth Specialists Catalogue.
It states that in 1924 a new plate was made for the 1-pound stamp, and the colour changed to grey. So I take it that what was two plates (one plate for the kangaroo) became one plate for the whole design, like the lower value stamps.

The remaining questions might be why the need for a new plate and why to change the color to grey, and not let it remain blue or brown or another sporty color. As those colors were taken by other values, perhaps all that was left was ... grey?

Someone with more knowledge on these stamps than I will hopefully opine.

Cheers!
Eric

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Oldmanemu

23 Oct 2016
12:46:33am

re: 1 Pound Kangaroo-Map stamp change of color

The Brusden White Catalogue states that the colour was changed to avoid confusion with the 3d King George V.

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Winedrinker

23 Oct 2016
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re: 1 Pound Kangaroo-Map stamp change of color

Thank you Oldmanemu. That is a tasty bit of information.

Funny thing is, the 1924 3d King George V is "dull ultramarine" and not a heck of a lot of contrast from "grey," at least on my time worn versions of the stamps. I see that in 1932 the 3d King George V was changed from "dull ultramarine" to "ultramarine." A markedly bluer stamp.

Anyway, fun stuff. Thanks again.
Eric

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michael78651

23 Oct 2016
02:21:33am

re: 1 Pound Kangaroo-Map stamp change of color

Very funny, Wine. You caught me. I thought you meant that you had the stamp and the color of the stamp turned to gray. I see it now, unless you bought the stamp in 1913 and noticed it turned to gray in 1924, but have been confused by the color changeling ever since. OK, long day. I'm going to bed now... Yawn

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phos45

23 Oct 2016
05:38:52am

re: 1 Pound Kangaroo-Map stamp change of color

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Australia SG 44 £1 chocolate and dull blue
Watermark 6
Perf 12
Issued Jul 1916

Also
SG 44a chestnut and bright blue

SG 44b bistre-brown and bright blue

SG 44ba watermark sideways
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Winedrinker

23 Oct 2016
09:43:36am

re: 1 Pound Kangaroo-Map stamp change of color

"I see it now, unless you bought the stamp in 1913 and noticed it turned to gray in 1924, but have been confused by the color changeling ever since."



It could happen. Happy These stamps do go through a lot of time zones.

phos45: Thanks for adding the images, very nice indeed. The chocolate and dull blue SG44 is fantastic. I have stamp envy.


Eric

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sheepshanks

23 Oct 2016
11:37:12am

re: 1 Pound Kangaroo-Map stamp change of color

Just my tuppence worth but why do the catalogue publishers not put the main colour first in the description. It is always what I notice first.

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23 Oct 2016
11:38:54am

re: 1 Pound Kangaroo-Map stamp change of color

Here is my £1 stamp.

1st watermark, colour - red-brown and blue.

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