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General Philatelic/Newcomer Cnr : Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

 

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Tonyb

29 Nov 2016
11:21:02am
Hi all and thanks for putting up with my newbie questions Happy

I would like to know if the centering of this 219 Franklin effect it's value and also does the cancel look like a hand cancel?

For the Washington 220 is this a 220 200a 220b how can I tell? all the 2's look the same!

Thank you all for reading!
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29 Nov 2016
05:30:53pm
re: Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

Since you are using catalog numbers and values, I would hazard a guess that you have a catalog? If so, the introduction to the catalog provides a wealth of information about stamps and answers questions such as these. The back of the world-wide catalogs also has an identifier.

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30 Nov 2016
12:44:51am
re: Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

Chris, take a look at that cork cancel. Does it look like a camel to you?

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30 Nov 2016
01:22:32am
re: Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

Hi Michael, I actually do not have any catalogs but I do have StampManage 2016. This is where I am arriving with the stamp numbers and values Happy


Chris thank you for taking the time to explain in such detail, you clearly made me understand their shortcomings.


I also thought the cork cancel looks like a camel!

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30 Nov 2016
08:25:31am

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re: Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

"I also thought the cork cancel looks like a camel! "



Hey! Nobody said we'd be subject to Rorschach Tests to be on this board!

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30 Nov 2016
08:13:16pm
re: Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

Possibly a swan (sideways) or a bbq chicken wing.

(You can see I'm bored).

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30 Nov 2016
08:49:34pm
re: Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

I thought swan at first, but then there are what appear to be ears on the "head".

Tony, what we're discussing here is that many postal clerks carved designs into their cork cancellers. These cancels are known as "fancy cancels". Some are quite nicely done, and some command high premiums over the value of the stamp.

Here's a link about this from the Stamporama Article section:

https://stamporama.com/articles/display_article.php?id=RAdpOBkQLYJUg

Check out the articles for plenty of information on stamps!

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01 Dec 2016
02:21:51am
re: Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

Oh my, I do have much to learn I see.

I have learned more on this friendly Board in such a short time,
I can do a happy dance!

Tony

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02 Dec 2016
03:11:37am
re: Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

If anything it would be a dromedary.

I tried to hold that back but just couldn't.

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02 Dec 2016
10:38:58am
re: Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

I agree with Michael. If you have a Scott catalog especially it has a section on centering and condition of stamps.

I am having a hard time finding it but we at Stamprama had quite a discussion in the past about what a fault is. Here is a link to another image presentation I made regarding faults on stamps which may help in evaluating them.

http://www.stampcommunity.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26201&SearchTerms=phaults

Most people do not consider poor centering to be a fault, but it does detract from the market value of a stamp.

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Tonyb

29 Nov 2016
11:21:02am

Hi all and thanks for putting up with my newbie questions Happy

I would like to know if the centering of this 219 Franklin effect it's value and also does the cancel look like a hand cancel?

For the Washington 220 is this a 220 200a 220b how can I tell? all the 2's look the same!

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29 Nov 2016
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re: Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

Since you are using catalog numbers and values, I would hazard a guess that you have a catalog? If so, the introduction to the catalog provides a wealth of information about stamps and answers questions such as these. The back of the world-wide catalogs also has an identifier.

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30 Nov 2016
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re: Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

Chris, take a look at that cork cancel. Does it look like a camel to you?

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30 Nov 2016
01:22:32am

re: Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

Hi Michael, I actually do not have any catalogs but I do have StampManage 2016. This is where I am arriving with the stamp numbers and values Happy


Chris thank you for taking the time to explain in such detail, you clearly made me understand their shortcomings.


I also thought the cork cancel looks like a camel!

Tony

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30 Nov 2016
08:25:31am

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re: Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

"I also thought the cork cancel looks like a camel! "



Hey! Nobody said we'd be subject to Rorschach Tests to be on this board!

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30 Nov 2016
08:13:16pm

re: Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

Possibly a swan (sideways) or a bbq chicken wing.

(You can see I'm bored).

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30 Nov 2016
08:49:34pm

re: Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

I thought swan at first, but then there are what appear to be ears on the "head".

Tony, what we're discussing here is that many postal clerks carved designs into their cork cancellers. These cancels are known as "fancy cancels". Some are quite nicely done, and some command high premiums over the value of the stamp.

Here's a link about this from the Stamporama Article section:

https://stamporama.com/articles/display_article.php?id=RAdpOBkQLYJUg

Check out the articles for plenty of information on stamps!

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Tonyb

01 Dec 2016
02:21:51am

re: Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

Oh my, I do have much to learn I see.

I have learned more on this friendly Board in such a short time,
I can do a happy dance!

Tony

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02 Dec 2016
03:11:37am

re: Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

If anything it would be a dromedary.

I tried to hold that back but just couldn't.

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02 Dec 2016
10:38:58am

re: Where do questions go for stamp mis prints or ones you have a question about like these 2 1890 ben and wash

I agree with Michael. If you have a Scott catalog especially it has a section on centering and condition of stamps.

I am having a hard time finding it but we at Stamprama had quite a discussion in the past about what a fault is. Here is a link to another image presentation I made regarding faults on stamps which may help in evaluating them.

http://www.stampcommunity.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26201&SearchTerms=phaults

Most people do not consider poor centering to be a fault, but it does detract from the market value of a stamp.

Cheers,
Antonio

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