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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Colored envelopes.

 

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davic

10 Jan 2017
02:04:32pm
Is there anyway I can remove stamps from colored envelopes, without staining the stamps?
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10 Jan 2017
03:14:41pm

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colder water works better, but mostly I just send stamps on bright colored paper to Holocaust project.
but nothing is fool proof.... and do a couple at a time, of the same color, so in the likely event you fail, you fail small.


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10 Jan 2017
04:38:15pm
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Before you worry more, test to see if the colors in the paper run by wetting the far corner and ...

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davic

10 Jan 2017
05:32:03pm
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thanks AMSD, but, what is Holocost

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10 Jan 2017
06:23:47pm
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http://www.foxboroughrcs.org/students-families/frcs-holocaust-stamp-project/

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10 Jan 2017
08:33:00pm
re: Colored envelopes.

Hi Everyone;

Ikey has a great idea. sometimes a small amount of color bleed will be hard to see in soak water, so use a white bowl. Also get one corner in fairly warm water and place on bright white paper and press down hard. If it is bleedable you'll find out quickly.

Another useful test would be try steaming far corner for several minutes and press onto bright white paper. My reason for this suggestion is...several years ago I had a ton of French covers with the avion blue and red hashmarks around the envelope border. So I knew not to soak them. Instead I steamed them. Water based gum will only soften in steam and not become liquid. Gently lift stamp off of envelope with spade tongs. Inspect the stamp on back for traces of color. If clean, then place the stamp in a bowl of warm water, to remove the gum residue. That method usually works well and reduces color bleed to near zero.

Hope that helps...if so reply on this thread as to your results, so others can benefit.

Thank you for that Ikey!

Just learnin'....
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11 Jan 2017
08:30:58am
re: Colored envelopes.

You're welcome, TR.

CONFIDENCE: that feeling you get just before you test your solution.

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11 Jan 2017
09:55:53am

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davic

the Holocaust Stamp Project.... A Massachusetts charter school is using stamps to illustrate aspects of the Holocaust. Their aim is to use one stamp for each of the 11 million individual murdered in the Holocaust..... they're taking the larger number to include other religions, gypsies, the feeble, Slavs.

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11 Jan 2017
01:16:45pm

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One Christmas envelope can ruin your whole day! Happy

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14 Jan 2017
02:53:19pm
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Or just soak the paper off the stamp, dry, flatten and mount it as either a shade variety or note the rare light green paper usage.

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malcolm197

17 Jan 2017
12:15:18pm
re: Colored envelopes.

It has to be said that ,in my experience, it is only U.S.( and possibly Canadian ) coloured envelopes bleed, particularly red and green. Our home grown variety seem to be coloured with "fast" dyes ( probably due to probable exposure to our delightful climate in the course of delivery).

I find the "sweat box" method a good, if time consuming method of removing stamps from difficult paper. I use a plastic "fridge bottom" shape salad container with an airtight lid and a plastic raised griddle in the bottom (prevents salads "sweating").

Put a small quantity of water below, but not touching the griddle, fit the lid and leave in a warm place for an hour or two. The less patient can put a pad of wet blotting paper in a Tupperware box and the rest the stamp face up on top. In both cases capillary action and increased humidity should soften the gum sufficiently to enable the stamp to be lifted.

By the way always peel the backing paper from the stamp, NEVER the stamp from the backing paper - that way the backing paper will thin rather than the stamp - then repeat the process.

Malcolm

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davic

10 Jan 2017
02:04:32pm

Is there anyway I can remove stamps from colored envelopes, without staining the stamps?

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10 Jan 2017
03:14:41pm

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re: Colored envelopes.

colder water works better, but mostly I just send stamps on bright colored paper to Holocaust project.
but nothing is fool proof.... and do a couple at a time, of the same color, so in the likely event you fail, you fail small.


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ikeyPikey

10 Jan 2017
04:38:15pm

re: Colored envelopes.

Before you worry more, test to see if the colors in the paper run by wetting the far corner and ...

Cheers,

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davic

10 Jan 2017
05:32:03pm

re: Colored envelopes.

thanks AMSD, but, what is Holocost

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10 Jan 2017
06:23:47pm

re: Colored envelopes.

http://www.foxboroughrcs.org/students-families/frcs-holocaust-stamp-project/

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TuskenRaider

10 Jan 2017
08:33:00pm

re: Colored envelopes.

Hi Everyone;

Ikey has a great idea. sometimes a small amount of color bleed will be hard to see in soak water, so use a white bowl. Also get one corner in fairly warm water and place on bright white paper and press down hard. If it is bleedable you'll find out quickly.

Another useful test would be try steaming far corner for several minutes and press onto bright white paper. My reason for this suggestion is...several years ago I had a ton of French covers with the avion blue and red hashmarks around the envelope border. So I knew not to soak them. Instead I steamed them. Water based gum will only soften in steam and not become liquid. Gently lift stamp off of envelope with spade tongs. Inspect the stamp on back for traces of color. If clean, then place the stamp in a bowl of warm water, to remove the gum residue. That method usually works well and reduces color bleed to near zero.

Hope that helps...if so reply on this thread as to your results, so others can benefit.

Thank you for that Ikey!

Just learnin'....
TuskenRaider

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ikeyPikey

11 Jan 2017
08:30:58am

re: Colored envelopes.

You're welcome, TR.

CONFIDENCE: that feeling you get just before you test your solution.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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11 Jan 2017
09:55:53am

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re: Colored envelopes.

davic

the Holocaust Stamp Project.... A Massachusetts charter school is using stamps to illustrate aspects of the Holocaust. Their aim is to use one stamp for each of the 11 million individual murdered in the Holocaust..... they're taking the larger number to include other religions, gypsies, the feeble, Slavs.

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Tom in Exton, PA
11 Jan 2017
01:16:45pm

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re: Colored envelopes.

One Christmas envelope can ruin your whole day! Happy

Been there, done that, there should be a t-shirt!

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14 Jan 2017
02:53:19pm

re: Colored envelopes.

Or just soak the paper off the stamp, dry, flatten and mount it as either a shade variety or note the rare light green paper usage.

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malcolm197

17 Jan 2017
12:15:18pm

re: Colored envelopes.

It has to be said that ,in my experience, it is only U.S.( and possibly Canadian ) coloured envelopes bleed, particularly red and green. Our home grown variety seem to be coloured with "fast" dyes ( probably due to probable exposure to our delightful climate in the course of delivery).

I find the "sweat box" method a good, if time consuming method of removing stamps from difficult paper. I use a plastic "fridge bottom" shape salad container with an airtight lid and a plastic raised griddle in the bottom (prevents salads "sweating").

Put a small quantity of water below, but not touching the griddle, fit the lid and leave in a warm place for an hour or two. The less patient can put a pad of wet blotting paper in a Tupperware box and the rest the stamp face up on top. In both cases capillary action and increased humidity should soften the gum sufficiently to enable the stamp to be lifted.

By the way always peel the backing paper from the stamp, NEVER the stamp from the backing paper - that way the backing paper will thin rather than the stamp - then repeat the process.

Malcolm

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