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General Philatelic/Newcomer Cnr : Christmas Seals

 

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popeye56

17 Feb 2017
06:44:33pm
I purchased a 1908 Christmas Seal stamp in MNH from a fellow stamp club member. He tells me that from 1907 until around 1919, each yearly issue has the Red Cross noted on them.
I'm told they are listed in the Specialized catalog from Scott, how ever, I don't own one, and my local library has their copy out with four on a waiting list. Could use some help on this on. The one I purchased has CS2WX3a Type1 written on the stock card?
Would like the catalog #'s for all of the Red Cross issues. Three year's collecting Red Cross issues, and only now coming to learn about these.
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17 Feb 2017
08:29:02pm
re: Christmas Seals

Scott number is WX3 (type 1 perf 14, Type 2 perf 12). The CS2 is the design type.

Scott Seal numbers start at WX1 (1907), last Scott number I have for them is a 1979 WX267.
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17 Feb 2017
10:33:12pm
re: Christmas Seals

The red cross - like we know from the organization - was only used on the first 13 design types, or up until 1919.

The double-barred cross - the emblem of the National Tuberculosis Association - appeared in the design of the seals beginning in 1920.

So that means that the Red Cross you are probably referring to was only used on Christmas Seals numbered from WX1(1907) to WX25(1919)


Hope this helps!

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07 Mar 2017
03:18:13am

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Check out this web site John Denune's christmasseals.net

http://www.christmasseals.net/us-christmas-seals
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07 Mar 2017
09:00:15am

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Robbin,

Brian's suggestion is a great one. It will get you to one of the most knowledgeable seal dealers and collectors around. He is also current president of the Christmas Seal and Charity Stamp Society, the philatelic org best suited to any study of Christmas (and other) seals.

Scott takes seals through 1979 and stops, because, at that point, ALA, then the owner of the Christmas seal brand, began issuing multiple formats (much like the USPS was doing), all in the name of generating collector revenue. So there might be as many as 10 different types of seals (w, w/o foil; in spanish; six different test seals; imperfs, etc.). It was too much for Scott.

Christmas seals are also catalogued in Green's, which is current through last year, and includes additional varieties not listed in Scott, even through 1979. Green's numbering is different, with your seal being called 8.1 (assuming it's type I). The beauty of that system should be self-evident.

PM me if you want more information on seals.

David

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07 Mar 2017
06:13:15pm
re: Christmas Seals

Hi everyone;

Does John reveal where to find the secret printer's marks, and what mark is used by which printer? There were several different printers for each year. I don't think Scott's does this.

Just wonderin'....
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08 Mar 2017
09:41:24am

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Green's does this often, but not always. I believe (but am not sure) that, unless detailed otherwise, printer's marks are on seal #56 on sheets of 100. I don't know if John's website features this detail or not.

Green's is typically far more detailed than Scott's on seals.


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popeye56

17 Feb 2017
06:44:33pm

I purchased a 1908 Christmas Seal stamp in MNH from a fellow stamp club member. He tells me that from 1907 until around 1919, each yearly issue has the Red Cross noted on them.
I'm told they are listed in the Specialized catalog from Scott, how ever, I don't own one, and my local library has their copy out with four on a waiting list. Could use some help on this on. The one I purchased has CS2WX3a Type1 written on the stock card?
Would like the catalog #'s for all of the Red Cross issues. Three year's collecting Red Cross issues, and only now coming to learn about these.

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17 Feb 2017
08:29:02pm

re: Christmas Seals

Scott number is WX3 (type 1 perf 14, Type 2 perf 12). The CS2 is the design type.

Scott Seal numbers start at WX1 (1907), last Scott number I have for them is a 1979 WX267.
Don

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17 Feb 2017
10:33:12pm

re: Christmas Seals

The red cross - like we know from the organization - was only used on the first 13 design types, or up until 1919.

The double-barred cross - the emblem of the National Tuberculosis Association - appeared in the design of the seals beginning in 1920.

So that means that the Red Cross you are probably referring to was only used on Christmas Seals numbered from WX1(1907) to WX25(1919)


Hope this helps!

Happy





Randy

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snowy12

07 Mar 2017
03:18:13am

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re: Christmas Seals

Check out this web site John Denune's christmasseals.net

http://www.christmasseals.net/us-christmas-seals
Brian
link works if you highlight it and click go to

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07 Mar 2017
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re: Christmas Seals

Robbin,

Brian's suggestion is a great one. It will get you to one of the most knowledgeable seal dealers and collectors around. He is also current president of the Christmas Seal and Charity Stamp Society, the philatelic org best suited to any study of Christmas (and other) seals.

Scott takes seals through 1979 and stops, because, at that point, ALA, then the owner of the Christmas seal brand, began issuing multiple formats (much like the USPS was doing), all in the name of generating collector revenue. So there might be as many as 10 different types of seals (w, w/o foil; in spanish; six different test seals; imperfs, etc.). It was too much for Scott.

Christmas seals are also catalogued in Green's, which is current through last year, and includes additional varieties not listed in Scott, even through 1979. Green's numbering is different, with your seal being called 8.1 (assuming it's type I). The beauty of that system should be self-evident.

PM me if you want more information on seals.

David

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TuskenRaider

07 Mar 2017
06:13:15pm

re: Christmas Seals

Hi everyone;

Does John reveal where to find the secret printer's marks, and what mark is used by which printer? There were several different printers for each year. I don't think Scott's does this.

Just wonderin'....
TuskenRaider

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08 Mar 2017
09:41:24am

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re: Christmas Seals

Green's does this often, but not always. I believe (but am not sure) that, unless detailed otherwise, printer's marks are on seal #56 on sheets of 100. I don't know if John's website features this detail or not.

Green's is typically far more detailed than Scott's on seals.


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"Save the USPS, buy stamps; save the hobby, use commemoratives"

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