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Tom in Exton, PA

04 Mar 2017
12:24:30pm

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I believe I shared with this group that I decided to collect certain US stamp issues used on cover rather than as mint stamps. My free form albums allow me to collect whatever I want for each stamp issue.

One of those categories is Zeppelins... when I noticed that I could buy FLOWN covers cheaper than a set of mint stamps, I decided that I'd rather have the covers. The stamps merely went from the post office into someone's stamp album, while the covers were actually in the Graf Zeppelin and flew around the world in those historic flights. How cool is that!?!

I already have a nice C13 on cover that I bought right last year. I paid $125 for it. Here it is for reference:

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The other evening I came across this wonderful cover that had just been reduced in price. It literally was the cheapest one on both eBay and HipStamp, and met my criteria of a nice appearance... so here's what I got... C14.

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Clean cover with a typewritten address. No envelope glue bleed through. All of the proper rubber stamps, good strikes without a lot of overlap like I've seen on other covers.

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Smart eyes will catch that Harry sent this to himself, in care of a German friend to get all of these neat receiving marks. No doubt it made it's way back to Harry under cover, probably in a ship that time! There is a bit of tape on this, and it may have been there since the beginning. There is no way to change that. Note the $37.50 price written on it. There is a light pencil that starts out "Owner..." at the bottom. I cannot read the rest of that.

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Now a cool thing. I found this auction catalog cut out inside the cover. Talk about adding some history to the cover. This cover was sold at the John A Fox auction on April 4, 1953 for $17.50. I think any of us would pay the listed prices for those Zeppelins today.

I paid $169.00 for it, so it was a decent investment made in 1953. That same $17.50 invested in new commemoratives that year would yield $14 today.

And you know how the collector thing goes. When I got the first cover I thought that would be it. I owned a Zeppelin and figured I had completed that bucket list item. Then I saw this one at a cheap price so I grabbed it. Am I happy and content? Nope! Now I'm thinking I only need one to complete the set! Argh!

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04 Mar 2017
01:24:36pm
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Very niceHappy

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04 Mar 2017
03:08:45pm
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Fantastic cover Tom. Yeah you've got to get third value to complete the set. Very cool to have that in formation from the auction. I'm surprised the auction description didnt mention a Scott number...

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04 Mar 2017
11:50:20pm
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I read the owner's town as "Shaker Heights", a well-known suburb of Cleveland OH.

U$D 17.50 at 5% would have doubled four times by now, eg, U$D 280.

The investment meme must die!

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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06 Mar 2017
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"Fantastic cover Tom. Yeah you've got to get third value to complete the set."



Okay, I think it would be convenient to blame this one on Ernie. But we all know my cat must've bid on it. Never mind that I don't have a cat. Anyhoo...

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A bit faint, but you can see the Lakehurst receiving mark on the reverse side. Since my two lower values were received in Germany, I wanted that cancel on one of these!

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And again in the cool department, here was the enclosure. Seeing this in the ad clinched the deal. Father is downright prophetic! He predicted that this would be worth a lot of money one day (and made sure his son knew it was the envelope and not the note). Could probably have bought a new 1930 Ford Model A for what I paid for it.

So now I've totally completed that Bucket List item of having a set of Zeppelins....

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06 Mar 2017
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Big thumbs up Tom! And a NJ marking to boot! The Graf zeppelin only docked at a couple places here in the states if memory serves correctly. Not sure but I think NAS Lakehurst was the main place.

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06 Mar 2017
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Thanks Ernie. Yes, Lakehurst was the main airship base in the USA. That's where the Hindenburg exploded.

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06 Mar 2017
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Very nice! The red Zeppelin cancellation is choice.


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08 Mar 2017
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Tom, Very nice and I agree that is the best way to collect those 3-4 stamps. I have not yet got the 3 and not sure if I will. The problem with them has always been their popularity and getting a real good deal isn't something you are likely to find. Mint mostly MNH have long been used like currency between U.S. dealers and have a much higher percentage of catalog values than most other stamps. I find it interesting that used stamps on cover are cataloged for just a little more than the single stamp, but on the cover you get all of those nifty markings, routes, maps etc. All of this makes used on cover a no brainer to me.

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09 Mar 2017
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Thanks Mitch!
Covers are the way to go with Zeppelins! When I hold them in my hands, I get a shiver just thinking about how they were front and center in this moment in history, actually flying in the Zeppelin.

Patience and perseverance will get you a nice set on cover. Bought over a period of a year I paid the following, including shipping (and sales tax on one of them).

The Zeppelin covers weren't all that expensive.
C13 $134.63
C14 $173.99
C15 $326.95

Total investment $635.57

I also have C18 on cover that flew on the Graf Zeppelin from Miami to Chicago for the Century of Progress Worlds Fair in 1933. That was maybe a $50 cover.

I had been lusting after a set that was offered for $999. Then I got a good deal on the C13, and figured I'd put together my own set. That gave me the opportunity to find ones that were pleasing, and it kept me busy! Plus I got to pay for them over time.

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09 Mar 2017
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Hey Tom,

Found a picture of Roland Ekman. Batavia High School class of '25. Good looking guy. It's gotta be him.

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https://flic.kr/p/eaHVA4

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09 Mar 2017
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That's pretty cool Ernie! It has to be him.

I always like to look at these old photos. Here is the graduating class of 1925, all full of energy to go out into the world. Considering that 1925 is 91 years ago and the average age of a high school senior is 17, these folks would be 108 today. It's safe to say they are all dead now. And you have to wonder how they made out in life. Who was successful? Who died young, and who lived to a ripe old age?

I searched a bit further and found a Roland Ekman who was born in 1908 and died in 1980 at 72 years of age. His wife's name was Marion. The entry I found didn't list any children. There are four Marions in the class picture, with Marion Richards right next to his photo. Ya never know!

And you gotta love that bobbed hairdo on nearly all the girls! 23 Skidoo to you!

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09 Mar 2017
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Tommy, this is so awesome, thanks for sharing!

A bit over a year ago when I was a rookie SoR'er, and returning from the Philatelic Dispora, I used to throw out the inserts and cut/soak the stamps off "envelopes". Then I discovered they were "covers" that had some potential significance (and possibly enhanced economic values).

Pretty sure you were the first to school me in this, saving me from disassembling a cover so barbarically, and taken it into your loving domain. (Okay, you did pay me for it, so no need to be so dramatic and soppy...)

Since then I have discovered a new approach to some of my discoveries in "The Hoard".

Thanks again, Dave.


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I believe I shared with this group that I decided to collect certain US stamp issues used on cover rather than as mint stamps. My free form albums allow me to collect whatever I want for each stamp issue.

One of those categories is Zeppelins... when I noticed that I could buy FLOWN covers cheaper than a set of mint stamps, I decided that I'd rather have the covers. The stamps merely went from the post office into someone's stamp album, while the covers were actually in the Graf Zeppelin and flew around the world in those historic flights. How cool is that!?!

I already have a nice C13 on cover that I bought right last year. I paid $125 for it. Here it is for reference:

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The other evening I came across this wonderful cover that had just been reduced in price. It literally was the cheapest one on both eBay and HipStamp, and met my criteria of a nice appearance... so here's what I got... C14.

Image Not Found

Clean cover with a typewritten address. No envelope glue bleed through. All of the proper rubber stamps, good strikes without a lot of overlap like I've seen on other covers.

Image Not Found

Smart eyes will catch that Harry sent this to himself, in care of a German friend to get all of these neat receiving marks. No doubt it made it's way back to Harry under cover, probably in a ship that time! There is a bit of tape on this, and it may have been there since the beginning. There is no way to change that. Note the $37.50 price written on it. There is a light pencil that starts out "Owner..." at the bottom. I cannot read the rest of that.

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Now a cool thing. I found this auction catalog cut out inside the cover. Talk about adding some history to the cover. This cover was sold at the John A Fox auction on April 4, 1953 for $17.50. I think any of us would pay the listed prices for those Zeppelins today.

I paid $169.00 for it, so it was a decent investment made in 1953. That same $17.50 invested in new commemoratives that year would yield $14 today.

And you know how the collector thing goes. When I got the first cover I thought that would be it. I owned a Zeppelin and figured I had completed that bucket list item. Then I saw this one at a cheap price so I grabbed it. Am I happy and content? Nope! Now I'm thinking I only need one to complete the set! Argh!

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Fantastic cover Tom. Yeah you've got to get third value to complete the set. Very cool to have that in formation from the auction. I'm surprised the auction description didnt mention a Scott number...

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I read the owner's town as "Shaker Heights", a well-known suburb of Cleveland OH.

U$D 17.50 at 5% would have doubled four times by now, eg, U$D 280.

The investment meme must die!

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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"Fantastic cover Tom. Yeah you've got to get third value to complete the set."



Okay, I think it would be convenient to blame this one on Ernie. But we all know my cat must've bid on it. Never mind that I don't have a cat. Anyhoo...

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A bit faint, but you can see the Lakehurst receiving mark on the reverse side. Since my two lower values were received in Germany, I wanted that cancel on one of these!

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And again in the cool department, here was the enclosure. Seeing this in the ad clinched the deal. Father is downright prophetic! He predicted that this would be worth a lot of money one day (and made sure his son knew it was the envelope and not the note). Could probably have bought a new 1930 Ford Model A for what I paid for it.

So now I've totally completed that Bucket List item of having a set of Zeppelins....

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Big thumbs up Tom! And a NJ marking to boot! The Graf zeppelin only docked at a couple places here in the states if memory serves correctly. Not sure but I think NAS Lakehurst was the main place.

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Thanks Ernie. Yes, Lakehurst was the main airship base in the USA. That's where the Hindenburg exploded.

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06 Mar 2017
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Very nice! The red Zeppelin cancellation is choice.


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Tom, Very nice and I agree that is the best way to collect those 3-4 stamps. I have not yet got the 3 and not sure if I will. The problem with them has always been their popularity and getting a real good deal isn't something you are likely to find. Mint mostly MNH have long been used like currency between U.S. dealers and have a much higher percentage of catalog values than most other stamps. I find it interesting that used stamps on cover are cataloged for just a little more than the single stamp, but on the cover you get all of those nifty markings, routes, maps etc. All of this makes used on cover a no brainer to me.

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Thanks Mitch!
Covers are the way to go with Zeppelins! When I hold them in my hands, I get a shiver just thinking about how they were front and center in this moment in history, actually flying in the Zeppelin.

Patience and perseverance will get you a nice set on cover. Bought over a period of a year I paid the following, including shipping (and sales tax on one of them).

The Zeppelin covers weren't all that expensive.
C13 $134.63
C14 $173.99
C15 $326.95

Total investment $635.57

I also have C18 on cover that flew on the Graf Zeppelin from Miami to Chicago for the Century of Progress Worlds Fair in 1933. That was maybe a $50 cover.

I had been lusting after a set that was offered for $999. Then I got a good deal on the C13, and figured I'd put together my own set. That gave me the opportunity to find ones that were pleasing, and it kept me busy! Plus I got to pay for them over time.

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09 Mar 2017
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Hey Tom,

Found a picture of Roland Ekman. Batavia High School class of '25. Good looking guy. It's gotta be him.

Link:

https://flic.kr/p/eaHVA4

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That's pretty cool Ernie! It has to be him.

I always like to look at these old photos. Here is the graduating class of 1925, all full of energy to go out into the world. Considering that 1925 is 91 years ago and the average age of a high school senior is 17, these folks would be 108 today. It's safe to say they are all dead now. And you have to wonder how they made out in life. Who was successful? Who died young, and who lived to a ripe old age?

I searched a bit further and found a Roland Ekman who was born in 1908 and died in 1980 at 72 years of age. His wife's name was Marion. The entry I found didn't list any children. There are four Marions in the class picture, with Marion Richards right next to his photo. Ya never know!

And you gotta love that bobbed hairdo on nearly all the girls! 23 Skidoo to you!

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Tommy, this is so awesome, thanks for sharing!

A bit over a year ago when I was a rookie SoR'er, and returning from the Philatelic Dispora, I used to throw out the inserts and cut/soak the stamps off "envelopes". Then I discovered they were "covers" that had some potential significance (and possibly enhanced economic values).

Pretty sure you were the first to school me in this, saving me from disassembling a cover so barbarically, and taken it into your loving domain. (Okay, you did pay me for it, so no need to be so dramatic and soppy...)

Since then I have discovered a new approach to some of my discoveries in "The Hoard".

Thanks again, Dave.


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