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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Tin Seal Revenue

 

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18 May 2017
07:13:53pm

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I have in my possession a British (GB probably) Tin Seal Revenue. I got that info from a site called Stampcommunity.org. I have never seen one in my life, nor can I find someone selling one. Are they rare? Any idea as to the value? Any help would be appreciated. Only on that stamp board do I see this mentioned

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18 May 2017
08:09:53pm
re: Tin Seal Revenue

Yes, it's a British embossed revenue stamp.

There were around 10,000 different dies used over many years.

In this case the stamp was embossed on to a piece of blue paper which was attached to the document being taxed using a tin staple.

The ends of the staple on the back of the document are covered with a "cypher label" showing the royal cypher, in this case that of Queen Victoria.

From about the 1870s onwards stamps started to be embossed in colour directly on to the document without a staple or cypher label.

I've no idea whether many people collect these or what prices they go for.

There was a catalogue published in the US in 1981, "The Impressed Duty Stamps of Great Britain".

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Ningpo
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18 May 2017
08:11:19pm
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I have a few of these myself and they are GB. These I think are less common than their eventual replacements; fiscal and revenues stamps. I am hoping to buy a couple from the late 1600's to early 1700's over the next day or so.

I noticed that the crown is a different design on yours, with a letter B in top left, yet it has the cypher VR on the reverse (Victoria)

Can you confirm these are tinned, as I was led to believe these were embossed silver?

These don't seem to attract much interest from what I've seen, so value is rather meagre. Certainly the ones I bought were in the £3-5 range.

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Just seen nigelc's post. It would seem that tin was in fact used.

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18 May 2017
09:01:51pm
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Valuable or not, they are certainly very cool. I must keep my eye open for them. Having worked with Silver all my life the "staples' sure appear to be Silver.

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19 May 2017
08:05:49am
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I see these come up on ebay when I search for patents. Usually there are several listed but today I found one. I don't collect them so I can't say what their value is. You can search ebay for items sold under patent in stamps to give you an idea of what they sell for.


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19 May 2017
08:23:41am
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Here's the rather poor image on that linked eBay item; a £50 high denomination embossed revenue, dated 2nd December 1869. Note the 'gold' staple:


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19 May 2017
08:29:42am
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Looking again at the crown on Soundcrest's copy, I suspect the embossed mark is actually from the latter part of George IV's reign, and used in Victoria's early reign.

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Soundcrest

18 May 2017
07:13:53pm

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I have in my possession a British (GB probably) Tin Seal Revenue. I got that info from a site called Stampcommunity.org. I have never seen one in my life, nor can I find someone selling one. Are they rare? Any idea as to the value? Any help would be appreciated. Only on that stamp board do I see this mentioned

Greg


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18 May 2017
08:09:53pm

re: Tin Seal Revenue

Yes, it's a British embossed revenue stamp.

There were around 10,000 different dies used over many years.

In this case the stamp was embossed on to a piece of blue paper which was attached to the document being taxed using a tin staple.

The ends of the staple on the back of the document are covered with a "cypher label" showing the royal cypher, in this case that of Queen Victoria.

From about the 1870s onwards stamps started to be embossed in colour directly on to the document without a staple or cypher label.

I've no idea whether many people collect these or what prices they go for.

There was a catalogue published in the US in 1981, "The Impressed Duty Stamps of Great Britain".

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Ningpo

18 May 2017
08:11:19pm

re: Tin Seal Revenue

I have a few of these myself and they are GB. These I think are less common than their eventual replacements; fiscal and revenues stamps. I am hoping to buy a couple from the late 1600's to early 1700's over the next day or so.

I noticed that the crown is a different design on yours, with a letter B in top left, yet it has the cypher VR on the reverse (Victoria)

Can you confirm these are tinned, as I was led to believe these were embossed silver?

These don't seem to attract much interest from what I've seen, so value is rather meagre. Certainly the ones I bought were in the £3-5 range.

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Just seen nigelc's post. It would seem that tin was in fact used.

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AntoniusRa

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18 May 2017
09:01:51pm

re: Tin Seal Revenue

Valuable or not, they are certainly very cool. I must keep my eye open for them. Having worked with Silver all my life the "staples' sure appear to be Silver.

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vinman

19 May 2017
08:05:49am

re: Tin Seal Revenue

I see these come up on ebay when I search for patents. Usually there are several listed but today I found one. I don't collect them so I can't say what their value is. You can search ebay for items sold under patent in stamps to give you an idea of what they sell for.


Vince


http://www.ebay.com/itm/GB-revenue-embossed-impressed-50-PATENT-stamp-RARE-/222507668476?hash=item33ce7d93fc:g:eJIAAOSwY3BZFE4s

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Ningpo

19 May 2017
08:23:41am

re: Tin Seal Revenue

Here's the rather poor image on that linked eBay item; a £50 high denomination embossed revenue, dated 2nd December 1869. Note the 'gold' staple:


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Ningpo

19 May 2017
08:29:42am

re: Tin Seal Revenue

Looking again at the crown on Soundcrest's copy, I suspect the embossed mark is actually from the latter part of George IV's reign, and used in Victoria's early reign.

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