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General Philatelic/Supplies, Literature & Software : Unsoakable Hinges?

 

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joshtanski
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29 May 2017
10:57:36am
Hello,

Anyone run into this before? Lately I have been soaking used stamps to remove hinge remnants (especially modern unpeelable hinges) and residue from the backs, plus soaking and flattening them tends to make them cleaner and more visually appealing in my opinion.

Anyway, I had a packet of South Africa stamps most of which looked like they had the modern whiter hinge remnants. A large percentage of them have hinges which do not soak off, plus in the water the hinges become almost indistinguishable from the stamp paper so I cannot tell they are still there. They still appear after drying, and seem to still be made of paper like a traditional hinge and not some sort of tape. I've tried soaking them twice with no luck.

I am very concerned, as soaking the stamps is time consuming, and if this is going to be a trend I will no longer get the results I desire with modern used commemoratives with tend to be a little scarcer than the older stamps.

Thanks,
Josh
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Snick1946
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29 May 2017
11:14:19am
re: Unsoakable Hinges?

Josh, you will hear from other knowing more than I do about the science of this issue. However I wonder if these indeed were some of the newer product that is currently out there- perhaps the 'DennisEn' brand? I made the mistake of using some if those at one time and that sounds like what i found when trying to remount.

I found the portion of the mount adhering to the stamp sort of fused with the back and would not peel. Also the album pages wee thinned when removing. Most of the stuff out there these days is garbage.

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DouglasGPerry
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29 May 2017
12:22:37pm
re: Unsoakable Hinges?

Mario at SoftPro, the developer of EZStamp, has a video on YouTube that demonstrates a novel method of removing even stubborn hinges with no water or other solvents at all:

Stamp Hinge Removal Tips

The video is approximately 5 minutes long. The first couple of minutes covers standard stamp removal from album pages. The "dry" technique for removing hinges from stamps begins near 2:45.

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michael78651
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29 May 2017
02:04:05pm
re: Unsoakable Hinges?

I have heard of that technique, but never saw it actually being done. Interesting. I'm going to try it out too.

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HungaryForStamps
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31 May 2017
05:14:25pm
re: Unsoakable Hinges?

I've used that technique and it works for normal hinge remnants when you have something to grab onto. Not so sure about the "glued"-on remnants the OP if referring to and remnants that have no edges to pull. But its another technique in the arsenal and combined with Q-Tips and all-out soaking, there is enough to solve almost all problems.


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doomboy
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31 May 2017
07:45:30pm
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It works quite often, but not all the time. I usually put a layer of glassine between the tongs and the stamp - make sure you have a soft surface between the stamp and the table (mentioned in the video)

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seanpashby
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31 May 2017
11:48:56pm
re: Unsoakable Hinges?

I recently ran across a pile of unused Ryukyu stamps with hinge remnants on them. The hinges were very white and I was able to carefully peel them off leaving no mark on the gum at all. The gum on the hinges was pinkish and almost like rubber cement. I have a feeling they would not have been water soluble.

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joshtanski

29 May 2017
10:57:36am

Hello,

Anyone run into this before? Lately I have been soaking used stamps to remove hinge remnants (especially modern unpeelable hinges) and residue from the backs, plus soaking and flattening them tends to make them cleaner and more visually appealing in my opinion.

Anyway, I had a packet of South Africa stamps most of which looked like they had the modern whiter hinge remnants. A large percentage of them have hinges which do not soak off, plus in the water the hinges become almost indistinguishable from the stamp paper so I cannot tell they are still there. They still appear after drying, and seem to still be made of paper like a traditional hinge and not some sort of tape. I've tried soaking them twice with no luck.

I am very concerned, as soaking the stamps is time consuming, and if this is going to be a trend I will no longer get the results I desire with modern used commemoratives with tend to be a little scarcer than the older stamps.

Thanks,
Josh

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Snick1946

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29 May 2017
11:14:19am

re: Unsoakable Hinges?

Josh, you will hear from other knowing more than I do about the science of this issue. However I wonder if these indeed were some of the newer product that is currently out there- perhaps the 'DennisEn' brand? I made the mistake of using some if those at one time and that sounds like what i found when trying to remount.

I found the portion of the mount adhering to the stamp sort of fused with the back and would not peel. Also the album pages wee thinned when removing. Most of the stuff out there these days is garbage.

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DouglasGPerry

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29 May 2017
12:22:37pm

re: Unsoakable Hinges?

Mario at SoftPro, the developer of EZStamp, has a video on YouTube that demonstrates a novel method of removing even stubborn hinges with no water or other solvents at all:

Stamp Hinge Removal Tips

The video is approximately 5 minutes long. The first couple of minutes covers standard stamp removal from album pages. The "dry" technique for removing hinges from stamps begins near 2:45.

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michael78651

29 May 2017
02:04:05pm

re: Unsoakable Hinges?

I have heard of that technique, but never saw it actually being done. Interesting. I'm going to try it out too.

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HungaryForStamps

31 May 2017
05:14:25pm

re: Unsoakable Hinges?

I've used that technique and it works for normal hinge remnants when you have something to grab onto. Not so sure about the "glued"-on remnants the OP if referring to and remnants that have no edges to pull. But its another technique in the arsenal and combined with Q-Tips and all-out soaking, there is enough to solve almost all problems.


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doomboy

31 May 2017
07:45:30pm

re: Unsoakable Hinges?

It works quite often, but not all the time. I usually put a layer of glassine between the tongs and the stamp - make sure you have a soft surface between the stamp and the table (mentioned in the video)

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seanpashby

31 May 2017
11:48:56pm

re: Unsoakable Hinges?

I recently ran across a pile of unused Ryukyu stamps with hinge remnants on them. The hinges were very white and I was able to carefully peel them off leaving no mark on the gum at all. The gum on the hinges was pinkish and almost like rubber cement. I have a feeling they would not have been water soluble.

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