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I think this may also affect ebay and HipStamp sellers too. I used to embed images in the description of my listings on bidStart to get around the image limit.
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Thanks for the notice Bob. I've had Photobucket for years, but never found it particularly easy to use. I appreciated the "freeness" of the service, however, so I used it when necessary--usually in discussion boards...
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No problems here yet but off to check a few threads to see what gives.
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Image retention is just part of the problem.
As I mentioned in the other forum, the long term viability of all the philatelic forums is at risk because they are all privately owned. At any time any one of them could be sold, moved, or simply closed. Hopefully no one thinks that their contributions are being preserved as some kind of archive.
This is an inherent risk in having a privately owned forum as opposed to one that is owned and run by a organization like the APS or the Royal Philatelic Society. Having a forum that is hosted by a long-term non-profit like APS or RPS allows for options like long term archiving.
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"This is an inherent risk in having a privately owned forum as opposed to one that is owned and run by a organization like the APS or the Royal Philatelic Society. Having a forum that is hosted by a long-term non-profit like APS or RPS allows for options like long term archiving.
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When librarians (and their higher ups) see digital literature as a lower class material than printed, I would expect this behavior especially when focused on a brick and motar place.
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Interesting... I just posted a bunch of items in the auction the past couple of days. First time in quite a while. I forgot that I have a bunch of images in the description area that links to PhotoBucket. All images are showing (for now).
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There is an ongoing discussion on Stampboards about this. They are recommending ImGur.
I fear that if there is a mass exodus to this site they may start charging too.
Malcolm
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Hi Everyone;
51Studebaker said:
"Image retention is just part of the problem.
As I mentioned in the other forum, the long term viability of all the philatelic forums is at risk because they are all privately owned. At any time any one of them could be sold, moved, or simply closed. Hopefully no one thinks that their contributions are being preserved as some kind of archive."
That is only partly correct. Many months ago I heard about the waybackmachine, a non-profit place to archive old web pages or pages that are gone, (I could not find Wensy tho).
Here is a link to finding old and unavailable digital web content:
Sherman and Mr. Peabody presents The Way Back Machine
Oh those wonderful 1960s....
TuskenRaider
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Actually the Waybackmachine has many problems including being based upon technology from 20 years ago.
It does an awful job at capturing any modern website if the website is anything more than plain html. It cannot capture any website which uses server-side coding. And even many simple websites were poorly captured. A good example is the old 3cent1861 website which went dark two years ago. Look at what Wayback captured for it, a bunch of plain html without any of the images which were the primary value of the site. The Wayback version of this site is useless.
And more disturbing is that Wayback simply steals everyone website without asking. This angers many developers and website owners so they intentionally block Wayback from stealing all their work and time. My wife and I are just finishing up a brand new database for Stamp Smarter; we easily have over 150 man hours just in the data entry effort. Few people like putting this kind of work into something only to have others just walk away with it.
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as I said it is only PARTIALLY correct, and the way back machine is but one of many sites that archive. It needs to be a more substantial and organized method for preserving the web's history and valuable content.
Yes there should be a way to capture valuable information without offending the authors.
Just sortin'....
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30 Jun 2017
10:02:37am
I'm reading on another forum that PhotoBucket recently changed their terms of service without any prior notification. Apparently if you have a free membership, you can no longer embed images into forum or discussion board posts and any previous images will not show. It looks like this is devastating some discussion boards. The free account is now just for photo storage. I'm sure this can be an issue on our site, especially with older posts before we could actually upload images.
I think this may also affect ebay and HipStamp sellers too. I used to embed images in the description of my listings on bidStart to get around the image limit.
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re: Photobucket Changes Their Terms of Service
Thanks for the notice Bob. I've had Photobucket for years, but never found it particularly easy to use. I appreciated the "freeness" of the service, however, so I used it when necessary--usually in discussion boards...
-Steve
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No problems here yet but off to check a few threads to see what gives.
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re: Photobucket Changes Their Terms of Service
Image retention is just part of the problem.
As I mentioned in the other forum, the long term viability of all the philatelic forums is at risk because they are all privately owned. At any time any one of them could be sold, moved, or simply closed. Hopefully no one thinks that their contributions are being preserved as some kind of archive.
This is an inherent risk in having a privately owned forum as opposed to one that is owned and run by a organization like the APS or the Royal Philatelic Society. Having a forum that is hosted by a long-term non-profit like APS or RPS allows for options like long term archiving.
Don
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"This is an inherent risk in having a privately owned forum as opposed to one that is owned and run by a organization like the APS or the Royal Philatelic Society. Having a forum that is hosted by a long-term non-profit like APS or RPS allows for options like long term archiving.
"
When librarians (and their higher ups) see digital literature as a lower class material than printed, I would expect this behavior especially when focused on a brick and motar place.
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04:53:40pm
re: Photobucket Changes Their Terms of Service
Interesting... I just posted a bunch of items in the auction the past couple of days. First time in quite a while. I forgot that I have a bunch of images in the description area that links to PhotoBucket. All images are showing (for now).
Bob
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There is an ongoing discussion on Stampboards about this. They are recommending ImGur.
I fear that if there is a mass exodus to this site they may start charging too.
Malcolm
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re: Photobucket Changes Their Terms of Service
Hi Everyone;
51Studebaker said:
"Image retention is just part of the problem.
As I mentioned in the other forum, the long term viability of all the philatelic forums is at risk because they are all privately owned. At any time any one of them could be sold, moved, or simply closed. Hopefully no one thinks that their contributions are being preserved as some kind of archive."
That is only partly correct. Many months ago I heard about the waybackmachine, a non-profit place to archive old web pages or pages that are gone, (I could not find Wensy tho).
Here is a link to finding old and unavailable digital web content:
Sherman and Mr. Peabody presents The Way Back Machine
Oh those wonderful 1960s....
TuskenRaider
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re: Photobucket Changes Their Terms of Service
Actually the Waybackmachine has many problems including being based upon technology from 20 years ago.
It does an awful job at capturing any modern website if the website is anything more than plain html. It cannot capture any website which uses server-side coding. And even many simple websites were poorly captured. A good example is the old 3cent1861 website which went dark two years ago. Look at what Wayback captured for it, a bunch of plain html without any of the images which were the primary value of the site. The Wayback version of this site is useless.
And more disturbing is that Wayback simply steals everyone website without asking. This angers many developers and website owners so they intentionally block Wayback from stealing all their work and time. My wife and I are just finishing up a brand new database for Stamp Smarter; we easily have over 150 man hours just in the data entry effort. Few people like putting this kind of work into something only to have others just walk away with it.
Don
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re: Photobucket Changes Their Terms of Service
as I said it is only PARTIALLY correct, and the way back machine is but one of many sites that archive. It needs to be a more substantial and organized method for preserving the web's history and valuable content.
Yes there should be a way to capture valuable information without offending the authors.
Just sortin'....
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