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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Need help identifying Somalia "POSTA AEREA" overprint.

 

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24 Aug 2017
08:31:23pm
I cannot find a listing in Scott for the stamps below. They are from the 1932 Italian Somalia set but with overprint of Posta Aerea. One would think they would be listed in the airmail section but they are not. Perhaps they are listed in another catalog or they are "private" overprints. Help appreciated so they can be properly placed in my collection.

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24 Aug 2017
08:59:23pm
re: Need help identifying Somalia "POSTA AEREA" overprint.

StampWorld lists them as 1936 airmail-not issued.


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24 Aug 2017
09:19:52pm
re: Need help identifying Somalia "POSTA AEREA" overprint.

Mitch,

I believe these are listed in the Sassone Catalog as #'s 27 & 28.

There may be a 2-letter prefix as well, but not sure.


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24 Aug 2017
09:32:14pm
re: Need help identifying Somalia "POSTA AEREA" overprint.

Thanks guys for the quick responses. I'd say I am safe in leaving them where they are now on the first page of Somalia air mails:
http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/europe/italian/italiansomalia10.jpg

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24 Aug 2017
10:57:18pm
re: Need help identifying Somalia "POSTA AEREA" overprint.

My 1971 Minkus catalog

1943; Airmail, #272, 276 optd.
H351 50c deep bistre brown 15.00
H352 2L bright rose red 1.25

On sale in Rome only

There is an illustration of the 50c stamp with the POSTA AEREA overprint

I am at a loss as to the color stated in the Minkus catalog of the 50 c value as deep bistre brown as the stamp Mitch has shown looks violet to me, I can not locate this stamp listed as violet in the Minkus catalog.The un-overprinted stamp is listed as Govorners (sic) residence, Mogadishu(Mogadiscio) 271 35c deep blue,272 50c deep bist brown, 273 75c bright rose red.

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24 Aug 2017
11:44:00pm
re: Need help identifying Somalia "POSTA AEREA" overprint.

Listed in Michel as non-issued, released 1936
I 50c violet 24€
II 2L carmine 2€

Sold only in Rome Postal ministry.

Great looking stamps Happy

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25 Aug 2017
05:09:11pm
re: Need help identifying Somalia "POSTA AEREA" overprint.

Fred n' K, Thanks for the additional info. It is good to see that the two stamps constitute a full set and also that they have some value. Also good to add non listed specialty items especially when they attractive and have some value.

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27 Aug 2017
08:14:25am
re: Need help identifying Somalia "POSTA AEREA" overprint.

Mitch,

My 1950 Sanabria's Air Post Catalog has them listed with black and white picture of both.

"1943 Provisionals. Reg. postage stamps of 1932 ovptd "POSTA AEREA" in black. These were never put in use at the colony but placed on sale by the P.M. at Rome. Helio. 15,000 sets. Perf 14.
50c Violet Mint $1.75
2L Carmine Mint $1.75 "

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27 Aug 2017
07:39:36pm
re: Need help identifying Somalia "POSTA AEREA" overprint.

Dave, Thanks for the additional info. Only 15,000 sets would make them somewhat scarce. It is also interesting the difference in value of the 50 cent you provided to those of the other catalogs. One would think as they were probably sold in sets that the higher value would catalog for more or the same because the issuance was the same. It's hard to figure what's going on in the minds of the catalog authors some times.

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24 Aug 2017
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I cannot find a listing in Scott for the stamps below. They are from the 1932 Italian Somalia set but with overprint of Posta Aerea. One would think they would be listed in the airmail section but they are not. Perhaps they are listed in another catalog or they are "private" overprints. Help appreciated so they can be properly placed in my collection.

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24 Aug 2017
08:59:23pm

re: Need help identifying Somalia "POSTA AEREA" overprint.

StampWorld lists them as 1936 airmail-not issued.


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24 Aug 2017
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re: Need help identifying Somalia "POSTA AEREA" overprint.

Mitch,

I believe these are listed in the Sassone Catalog as #'s 27 & 28.

There may be a 2-letter prefix as well, but not sure.


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24 Aug 2017
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re: Need help identifying Somalia "POSTA AEREA" overprint.

Thanks guys for the quick responses. I'd say I am safe in leaving them where they are now on the first page of Somalia air mails:
http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/europe/italian/italiansomalia10.jpg

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24 Aug 2017
10:57:18pm

re: Need help identifying Somalia "POSTA AEREA" overprint.

My 1971 Minkus catalog

1943; Airmail, #272, 276 optd.
H351 50c deep bistre brown 15.00
H352 2L bright rose red 1.25

On sale in Rome only

There is an illustration of the 50c stamp with the POSTA AEREA overprint

I am at a loss as to the color stated in the Minkus catalog of the 50 c value as deep bistre brown as the stamp Mitch has shown looks violet to me, I can not locate this stamp listed as violet in the Minkus catalog.The un-overprinted stamp is listed as Govorners (sic) residence, Mogadishu(Mogadiscio) 271 35c deep blue,272 50c deep bist brown, 273 75c bright rose red.

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24 Aug 2017
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re: Need help identifying Somalia "POSTA AEREA" overprint.

Listed in Michel as non-issued, released 1936
I 50c violet 24€
II 2L carmine 2€

Sold only in Rome Postal ministry.

Great looking stamps Happy

-k-

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25 Aug 2017
05:09:11pm

re: Need help identifying Somalia "POSTA AEREA" overprint.

Fred n' K, Thanks for the additional info. It is good to see that the two stamps constitute a full set and also that they have some value. Also good to add non listed specialty items especially when they attractive and have some value.

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27 Aug 2017
08:14:25am

re: Need help identifying Somalia "POSTA AEREA" overprint.

Mitch,

My 1950 Sanabria's Air Post Catalog has them listed with black and white picture of both.

"1943 Provisionals. Reg. postage stamps of 1932 ovptd "POSTA AEREA" in black. These were never put in use at the colony but placed on sale by the P.M. at Rome. Helio. 15,000 sets. Perf 14.
50c Violet Mint $1.75
2L Carmine Mint $1.75 "

Dave N.

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re: Need help identifying Somalia "POSTA AEREA" overprint.

Dave, Thanks for the additional info. Only 15,000 sets would make them somewhat scarce. It is also interesting the difference in value of the 50 cent you provided to those of the other catalogs. One would think as they were probably sold in sets that the higher value would catalog for more or the same because the issuance was the same. It's hard to figure what's going on in the minds of the catalog authors some times.

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