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07:13:59pm
Every so often, I see stamps advertised as such that are obviously no longer joined.
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No they are not !
They could be listed as coming from a Se-Tenant sheet or block as the perf sizes may be different or there may be some other difference when compared to the same stamp from another format. The term 'Se-Tenant' is used to describe more than one stamp.
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They also are not considered se-tenant (as regards to catalog value) if the perfs between any of the stamps have been folded.
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Michael,
Is that a statement that can be backed up with documentation?
Or is that your personal opinion?
Not meant to be accusatory here...an honest query 
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From the general glossary in the Scott Specialized Catalogue of U.S. Stamps and Covers defines se-tenant as:
"Se-Tenant -- joined, referring to an unsevered pair, strip or block of stamps differing in design, denomination or overprint..."
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Randy, my point as I said relates solely to catalog value. Scott catalogs make note of severe reductions in values if the perfs have been folded.
One such comment is in South African se-tenant listings:
"Values are for pairs with no fold marks between stamps and no perf separations."
The stamps are se-tenant because of their designs, but condition is affected by folding and/or separation of perfs. If the condition is such, then the usual determination of value is the value of the single stamps.
The same holds true for blocks, panes, selvedge, tabs, etc.
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Michael,
Thank you for that clarification and the documentation.
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I was wondering the same thing. But Randy beat me to the question.
If the same holds for panes, then a booklet pane of 10 that has a natural fold; is that devalued? Just wondering and learning.
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It is not devalued if it came that way from the post office ("as issued").
I'm not sure if this still applies, but back in the 1980s, if memory serves, the post office was selling unfolded booklet panes. Of course that brought up a discussion regarding the folded booklets that were available at the post offices. The unfolded panes were only available from the fulfillment center. There was a premium for the unfolded panes.
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20 Sep 2017
07:13:59pm
Are stamps that were issued "se tennant" still "se tennant" after they have been separated and placed in the auction for sale ?
Every so often, I see stamps advertised as such that are obviously no longer joined.
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re: Se Tennant ?
No they are not !
They could be listed as coming from a Se-Tenant sheet or block as the perf sizes may be different or there may be some other difference when compared to the same stamp from another format. The term 'Se-Tenant' is used to describe more than one stamp.
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They also are not considered se-tenant (as regards to catalog value) if the perfs between any of the stamps have been folded.
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Michael,
Is that a statement that can be backed up with documentation?
Or is that your personal opinion?
Not meant to be accusatory here...an honest query
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re: Se Tennant ?
From the general glossary in the Scott Specialized Catalogue of U.S. Stamps and Covers defines se-tenant as:
"Se-Tenant -- joined, referring to an unsevered pair, strip or block of stamps differing in design, denomination or overprint..."
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re: Se Tennant ?
Randy, my point as I said relates solely to catalog value. Scott catalogs make note of severe reductions in values if the perfs have been folded.
One such comment is in South African se-tenant listings:
"Values are for pairs with no fold marks between stamps and no perf separations."
The stamps are se-tenant because of their designs, but condition is affected by folding and/or separation of perfs. If the condition is such, then the usual determination of value is the value of the single stamps.
The same holds true for blocks, panes, selvedge, tabs, etc.
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re: Se Tennant ?
Michael,
Thank you for that clarification and the documentation.
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re: Se Tennant ?
I was wondering the same thing. But Randy beat me to the question.
If the same holds for panes, then a booklet pane of 10 that has a natural fold; is that devalued? Just wondering and learning.
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re: Se Tennant ?
It is not devalued if it came that way from the post office ("as issued").
I'm not sure if this still applies, but back in the 1980s, if memory serves, the post office was selling unfolded booklet panes. Of course that brought up a discussion regarding the folded booklets that were available at the post offices. The unfolded panes were only available from the fulfillment center. There was a premium for the unfolded panes.
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