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09:35:26pm
Michel lists this stamp in two color ranges 1) bright blue violet to violet purple and 2) bright violet to bright bluish violet.
I'd say you have one of each range.
The fact that they quote ranges rather than specific colors indicates that there will be many minor variations -- likely a result of wartime production shortages of ink.
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Thanks for the information Roy. I think Scott could have done a better job here.
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Jones (p.208) says "The 6pf value is found in two distinct shades" and later (p.211) "There are a variety of shades amongst these stamps owing to the different consistency of the inks and the variations in paper, as both of these fluctuated owing to their scarcity during the war years." The 5pf value is also listed (Michel) in two distinct shades.
Jones, Robert W., The Philately of Third Reich Germany 1933-1945, Broomfield 2011.
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I'm wondering why all the wartime Hitler head definitive are not found with shade variations?
I have seen plenty of shades of the 5pf and 6pf: Why not the others?
Bruce
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INTERMEDIATE colours are harder to match ... even in todays world.
I study machins, and there are countless intermediate shades
RN blockades caused many shortages in germany 1914-1918 1939-45 ... paper, ink and glue
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My understanding of shades is, well limited to the work my eyes perform discerning one shade from another with an occasional help from color guides.
What is meant by intermediate colors? I can assume that the green 5pf and purple 6pf must be intermediate but what about, if they exist, other intermediate colors?
Now that I think about it, I have seen a few gray 1pf Hitler head shades, not near as many as the aforementioned 5pf and 6pf.
Haven't seen any of the orange or brown issues with shade gradations, for example. Are these not considered intermediate colors?
Also I do not recall seeing any of the General Government Hitler heads in noticeable shade variants. Anyone see those?
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Color nomenclature can be confusing; many folks misuse the term 'shade' by using it to refer to any color variation. But 'shade' is actually specific to a color mixed with only black.
'Shade' describes an original color mixed with black (reducing lightness).
'Tint' describes an original color mixed with white (increasing lightness).
So 'shade' is the opposite of 'tint'. 'Hue' is the term used to describe the main properties of a color.
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Great charts. Thanks.
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Scott has only one entry listed for the 6pf Hitler stamp which it says is purple. I have several used copies of each of these color varieties. Is one of them an error?
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02 Oct 2017
09:35:26pm
re: Hitler 6pf color question
Michel lists this stamp in two color ranges 1) bright blue violet to violet purple and 2) bright violet to bright bluish violet.
I'd say you have one of each range.
The fact that they quote ranges rather than specific colors indicates that there will be many minor variations -- likely a result of wartime production shortages of ink.
Roy
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re: Hitler 6pf color question
Thanks for the information Roy. I think Scott could have done a better job here.
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re: Hitler 6pf color question
Jones (p.208) says "The 6pf value is found in two distinct shades" and later (p.211) "There are a variety of shades amongst these stamps owing to the different consistency of the inks and the variations in paper, as both of these fluctuated owing to their scarcity during the war years." The 5pf value is also listed (Michel) in two distinct shades.
Jones, Robert W., The Philately of Third Reich Germany 1933-1945, Broomfield 2011.
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04:51:05pm
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I'm wondering why all the wartime Hitler head definitive are not found with shade variations?
I have seen plenty of shades of the 5pf and 6pf: Why not the others?
Bruce
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re: Hitler 6pf color question
INTERMEDIATE colours are harder to match ... even in todays world.
I study machins, and there are countless intermediate shades
RN blockades caused many shortages in germany 1914-1918 1939-45 ... paper, ink and glue
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06:46:44pm
re: Hitler 6pf color question
My understanding of shades is, well limited to the work my eyes perform discerning one shade from another with an occasional help from color guides.
What is meant by intermediate colors? I can assume that the green 5pf and purple 6pf must be intermediate but what about, if they exist, other intermediate colors?
Now that I think about it, I have seen a few gray 1pf Hitler head shades, not near as many as the aforementioned 5pf and 6pf.
Haven't seen any of the orange or brown issues with shade gradations, for example. Are these not considered intermediate colors?
Also I do not recall seeing any of the General Government Hitler heads in noticeable shade variants. Anyone see those?
Bruce
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05 Oct 2017
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Color nomenclature can be confusing; many folks misuse the term 'shade' by using it to refer to any color variation. But 'shade' is actually specific to a color mixed with only black.
'Shade' describes an original color mixed with black (reducing lightness).
'Tint' describes an original color mixed with white (increasing lightness).
So 'shade' is the opposite of 'tint'. 'Hue' is the term used to describe the main properties of a color.
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Great charts. Thanks.
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