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Soundcrest
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06 Oct 2017
03:41:45am

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Imagine my surprise to find lots sold out of a book I had not released yet (#10085). Has anyone else experienced this?

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06 Oct 2017
09:12:11am

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Can you find these 18 in the book in question, or through "view sold lots"?

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06 Oct 2017
09:14:56am
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Greg "The Sales Ninja".

So good he sells out pre-release.

Looking forward to Ian and Ralph having-at this one!

Dave. Rolling On The Floor Laughing

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06 Oct 2017
09:27:53am
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Dave, you're incorrigible!

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06 Oct 2017
09:37:36am
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The stamps sold out of Book 10085 do show up in Greg's items sold list, along with the buyer's name. The approval book (10085), however, does not appear in the active books list.

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06 Oct 2017
09:40:37am

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So you know who bought them. That means you could also ask him or her how that was done.

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06 Oct 2017
09:44:49am
re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

It seems that it's possible when entering book# and page # in search. At least purchase button there is available.

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06 Oct 2017
09:51:24am
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Were you able to pull up the book? I tried it searching under the book number, and it came back nothing found.

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06 Oct 2017
09:54:06am

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book#,page# works! I have just gone through the Mauritius book. Was tempted but did not buy anything but believe I could.

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06 Oct 2017
09:54:47am
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In approvals search:

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06 Oct 2017
10:19:39am
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OK. If you search for an inactive book by just the book number, it doesn't appear. However, and I verified this too, if you search for an inactive book using the book number and a page number, it appears in the search.

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06 Oct 2017
11:01:38am

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No, there is no reason to void the purchases. I have just never seen this happen before. On;y problem this could cause would be a buyer purchasing out of an old inactive book.

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06 Oct 2017
12:48:54pm
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I notified Tim about, FYI.

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06 Oct 2017
01:18:05pm
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"I am the buyer in Mauritius. If the purchases need to be voided for any reason, please do so - no hard feelings. And yes, I found it last night by entering book number, page 1 in Search."



Chris.

I have a few books I haven't listed yet. Please feel free to buy them all.

Actually, I haven't even started compiling them yet - still working on the TITLE. Should be done in 2-3 hours.

But don't let that stop you. Just search under "LeMaven", "Incorrigible", or "Pain-in-The Moderator's-Heiny".





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06 Oct 2017
03:54:59pm
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Does this now mean that we transcended L space and created a stamp futures market which will include those stamps not designed or yet printed. If so I am going to start building the warehouse to hold them and issue shares or maybe a start-up fund.
Yippee on my way to a Warren Buffett fortune at last.

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06 Oct 2017
06:09:43pm
re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

"still working on the TITLE. Should be done in 2-3 hours"



Hey, you're fast! Takes some people days to do it!
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Tim
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06 Oct 2017
07:08:44pm

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re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

Thank you everyone for the excellent job of debugging this issue. I'll take a look at this problem this weekend. Stay tuned for an update.

Regards ... Tim.

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06 Oct 2017
09:48:33pm
re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

Good work. Spotting this bug after 4 years! WoW!
I know that all books, active or inactive can be viewed by accessing book number, page number. This allows a purchaser to check an item later on, if he needs to. I use it to find material in my old books for example. Was never meant to go beyond giving access to the information on purchased items, if needed. (or listed items).

It never occurred to me that one would use this feature to access and purchase stamps.
Will it also work on very old books, long gone and stripped by the sellers? Potential problem if it does!

Clearly books that are inactive should not allow any sales.

I am in favor of disallowing these accidental sales, as they give an unfair advantage to those who use this feature to jump ahead of the pack. Not what I am implying about this occurrence which is a first, but now that the genie is out, how do you keep a level field, until corrective measures have been taken?

rrr....

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06 Oct 2017
11:47:27pm

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Handy pre-view for buyers ??

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Tim
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07 Oct 2017
09:39:02am

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re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

Hi Everyone,
I have closed this gap. You can no longer use the search on Book and Page Number to get to an inactive Book.

Regards ... Tim.

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07 Oct 2017
02:54:50pm
re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

Chris (anglophile). Naaahhh Tim took care so fast that my comments (which were intended as preventative, if it took a long time to solve the issue) are irrelevant.
The current solution is not ideal, as one needs access to de-activated books for many reasons (checking on a purchase, on a stamp received that may be in error, for cat numbers (when they are in the book) etc.... I use it all the time!)
But it is expedient, for now, closing this loophole!

Since you and Greg have concluded an arrangement and since these will post as "sold" when the book is active, let us not complicate things.
Enjoy your purchase, and wow for the creative approach that led to finding this bug!!

rrr....

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07 Oct 2017
03:07:56pm

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About a year ago - I am sure this is what happened once to me but I just thought I had activated a book when I guess I did not. I just never paid attention to it back then. Glad it can not happen in the future !!

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06 Oct 2017
03:41:45am

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Imagine my surprise to find lots sold out of a book I had not released yet (#10085). Has anyone else experienced this?

Greg

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06 Oct 2017
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Can you find these 18 in the book in question, or through "view sold lots"?

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06 Oct 2017
09:14:56am

re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

Greg "The Sales Ninja".

So good he sells out pre-release.

Looking forward to Ian and Ralph having-at this one!

Dave. Rolling On The Floor Laughing

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06 Oct 2017
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Dave, you're incorrigible!

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06 Oct 2017
09:37:36am

re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

The stamps sold out of Book 10085 do show up in Greg's items sold list, along with the buyer's name. The approval book (10085), however, does not appear in the active books list.

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06 Oct 2017
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So you know who bought them. That means you could also ask him or her how that was done.

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ingunam

06 Oct 2017
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re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

It seems that it's possible when entering book# and page # in search. At least purchase button there is available.

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06 Oct 2017
09:51:24am

re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

Were you able to pull up the book? I tried it searching under the book number, and it came back nothing found.

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06 Oct 2017
09:54:06am

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book#,page# works! I have just gone through the Mauritius book. Was tempted but did not buy anything but believe I could.

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ingunam

06 Oct 2017
09:54:47am

re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

In approvals search:

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06 Oct 2017
10:19:39am

re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

OK. If you search for an inactive book by just the book number, it doesn't appear. However, and I verified this too, if you search for an inactive book using the book number and a page number, it appears in the search.

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06 Oct 2017
11:01:38am

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re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

No, there is no reason to void the purchases. I have just never seen this happen before. On;y problem this could cause would be a buyer purchasing out of an old inactive book.

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06 Oct 2017
12:48:54pm

re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

I notified Tim about, FYI.

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lemaven

06 Oct 2017
01:18:05pm

re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

"I am the buyer in Mauritius. If the purchases need to be voided for any reason, please do so - no hard feelings. And yes, I found it last night by entering book number, page 1 in Search."



Chris.

I have a few books I haven't listed yet. Please feel free to buy them all.

Actually, I haven't even started compiling them yet - still working on the TITLE. Should be done in 2-3 hours.

But don't let that stop you. Just search under "LeMaven", "Incorrigible", or "Pain-in-The Moderator's-Heiny".





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sheepshanks

06 Oct 2017
03:54:59pm

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Does this now mean that we transcended L space and created a stamp futures market which will include those stamps not designed or yet printed. If so I am going to start building the warehouse to hold them and issue shares or maybe a start-up fund.
Yippee on my way to a Warren Buffett fortune at last.

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michael78651

06 Oct 2017
06:09:43pm

re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

"still working on the TITLE. Should be done in 2-3 hours"



Hey, you're fast! Takes some people days to do it!
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Tim
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06 Oct 2017
07:08:44pm

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re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

Thank you everyone for the excellent job of debugging this issue. I'll take a look at this problem this weekend. Stay tuned for an update.

Regards ... Tim.

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06 Oct 2017
09:48:33pm

re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

Good work. Spotting this bug after 4 years! WoW!
I know that all books, active or inactive can be viewed by accessing book number, page number. This allows a purchaser to check an item later on, if he needs to. I use it to find material in my old books for example. Was never meant to go beyond giving access to the information on purchased items, if needed. (or listed items).

It never occurred to me that one would use this feature to access and purchase stamps.
Will it also work on very old books, long gone and stripped by the sellers? Potential problem if it does!

Clearly books that are inactive should not allow any sales.

I am in favor of disallowing these accidental sales, as they give an unfair advantage to those who use this feature to jump ahead of the pack. Not what I am implying about this occurrence which is a first, but now that the genie is out, how do you keep a level field, until corrective measures have been taken?

rrr....

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06 Oct 2017
11:47:27pm

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Handy pre-view for buyers ??

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Tim
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07 Oct 2017
09:39:02am

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re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

Hi Everyone,
I have closed this gap. You can no longer use the search on Book and Page Number to get to an inactive Book.

Regards ... Tim.

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07 Oct 2017
02:54:50pm

re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

Chris (anglophile). Naaahhh Tim took care so fast that my comments (which were intended as preventative, if it took a long time to solve the issue) are irrelevant.
The current solution is not ideal, as one needs access to de-activated books for many reasons (checking on a purchase, on a stamp received that may be in error, for cat numbers (when they are in the book) etc.... I use it all the time!)
But it is expedient, for now, closing this loophole!

Since you and Greg have concluded an arrangement and since these will post as "sold" when the book is active, let us not complicate things.
Enjoy your purchase, and wow for the creative approach that led to finding this bug!!

rrr....

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07 Oct 2017
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re: Stamps Sold Out Of An Inactive Book?

About a year ago - I am sure this is what happened once to me but I just thought I had activated a book when I guess I did not. I just never paid attention to it back then. Glad it can not happen in the future !!

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