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Stampme

29 Oct 2017
11:42:15pm
Hello,

The last two stamps of the Third Reich have created a lot of controversy, chiefly revolving around the possibility of finding used copies off or on cover that were not faked after the war. Supposedly none exist and all expert's opinions regarding valid used covers or stamps have been revoked by those in the know in Germany and elsewhere.

If I recall correctly, the SA and SS stamps were printed in Vienna. Now I'm wondering why according to some were the stamps driven to war torn Berlin in April of 1945 and not also delivered to post offices in Vienna where they were printed? At that time Vienna had not been overrun by any Allied forces.

It certainly seems reasonable to believe that if the two stamps had been issued to post offices in Vienna, we would have seen some covers.

Does anyone know the answer: Why only Berlin?

Bruce
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30 Oct 2017
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Hi Bruce,
It is correct that the last official Third Reich stamps were printed in Vienna and it is also a fact (or at least all leading experts assume so) that these stamps somehow managed to be transported from Vienna to Berlin. Berlin was reachable from other parts of Germany until April 26th and these stamps were officially released at the 21st. Why they were released in Berlin and not elsewhere, I do not know and can only assume it has to do with the surreal, truth denying atmosphere in the Fuhrer bunker, where they spent the last days musing about the past, moving ghost armies to the front and phantasizing about the rebuilding of Berlin and Linz according to Hitler and Speer's megalomanic architectural master plans.

There was no real need for stamps in that period, and it is said that the excessive surcharges on almost all stamps were not for charity but just to fill the wallets of the highest nazis, most particularly Hitler himself. Perhaps that's why these new stamps had to be released and sold in Berlin as that would be the only way to get hold of the revenues.

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pigdoc

10 Jan 2018
01:23:43pm
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I was thinking about this issue last night, and to me, it seems highly unlikely that there would have been significant postal usage of this issue prior to VE Day.

For one thing, the purpose of the Semi-postals was to raise revenue for the Third Reich. There would have been hardly any citizen left by April 21, 1945 who would have been motivated to bankroll the Nazis. I have read that the Nazis required business concerns to use semi-postals to raise revenue, but again, I can't imagine that by April 21 there would have been any allegiance towards the Nazis remaining.

Same idea would hold among Austrian citizens, undermining the possibility that there were any of this issue affixed to regular mail in Austrian post offices, with the remotely possible exception of collectors.

At any rate, there would have been very few, if any, copies postally used, in my opinion.
I guess I can imagine the odd collector making an attempt in Vienna, but in Berlin? It must have been quite dangerous to be on the streets at all between April 21 and May 8!

But, here is an item from my collection:Image Not Found

I don't know if I'd assert the cancellation was "faked", but I have no doubt that it is a favor cancellation at the very least. It sure *could* be faked! I have to say that, if I had been a postal worker at that time in Berlin, I would have DEFINITELY created this item for myself! And, maybe a bunch more for my collector-buddies, either for sale or trade.

An interesting question!

Another interesting question came to mind last night. When a 'regime' falls, what happens to all of the postage cancelling devices? Are there any documented cases of these devices making it into the hands of forgers?

As always, I welcome any/all counterpoint!

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10 Jan 2018
02:49:29pm
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I think it is generally accepted now that these are not genuine cancels. There was a detailed thread about this some while ago, and there is plenty of literature available.

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10 Jan 2018
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It might be interesting for someone to write an article, or for us to start a new discussion, about when collectors started adding more value to postally used stamps and covers. Same issue around CTO stamps. When/why did someone decide that putting a "fake" cancel on a stamp made it more valuable than leaving it Unused/Mint.

Apropos to this particular discussion, I can't imagine back in 1945 that someone thought "I need to get this stamp cancelled" to add value. Rather, I would have anticipated the rationale to be moreso "get lots of Unused/Mint copies to set aside".

Pursuing that logic, I would think that adding bogus cancels to stamps was something that occurred much later (maybe in the 1960s/70s?), rather than closer to the time of issue.

Thoughts? Research?

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pigdoc

10 Jan 2018
03:48:22pm
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I see your point, lemaven.

Speaking for myself (only), as I have matured in the hobby (been in it since 1966), more and more, I appreciate the contextual value the cancellation provides.

If I project myself back to late April, 1945, it somehow seems inevitable that I would have recognized what a momentous period that was to be in history. Everyone living in Berlin in April 1945 must have sensed that an end to an era was near. Could a collector in 1945 have envisioned the degree of documentation of issue dates, etc., etc. that exists today, to the extent that he would depend on that in lieu of what he had at hand (the cancellation device)? I think that articles such as what I imaged in this thread (cancelled stamps on a piece) tend to reinforce the value of the contemporary cancellation in the minds of collectors. Articles such as this one are common enough to backup that statement. If not so, why would they be faked?

Maybe, for all the sentiments expressed above, that is the reason that I am, primarily a collector of used stamps, and increasingly, covers. It just seems that the cancellation adds such a wealth of dimension - place and time, at least. And, often much more (occasion, context). To me, the sterility of a mint stamp is a poor substitute for that...Mint stamps in my collection are not much more than spacefillers...

Just my muses...

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Stampme

10 Jan 2018
04:54:59pm
re: The Dreaded Scott B292-93 Last Third Reich Stamps

Speak of the devil as the expression is, well, expressed, there is an expertised cover on eBay bearing both Scott B292 and B293 on cover. It was deemed genuine by Professional Stamp Experts (PSE) in November 2017. Anyone have info on PSE?

According to the seller, PSE had a member on their staff who knew a person that knew the person who actually ran around war torn Berlin to obtain cancellations on cover or something kind of convuluted like that.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/372179163315?ul_noapp=true

As mentioned previously, maybe here, all covers that bore the April 20, 1945 date and were expertised as genuine had the expertising voided and were deemed postwar productions. Expertising was reversed.

Michel catalog now gives the date of release in Berlin of these stamps as April 21, 1945, the day after Hitler's last birthday. There was a time when the date was April 20. I know that Scott used to give April 20.

Interestingly, the portion of the cover shown here is the first time I have ever seen one of these covers postmarked April 21, 1945 rather than April 20. I wouldn't know if that means anything or not but since the date was changed, I would be curious, Pigdoc when you picked up this cover--recently or long ago?

Also there was an article online some years ago that showed all the post office cancellations from Berlin at that time that were deemed faked since post office was either already in Russian hands or was bombed out. Also, the writer mentioned the many German post office genuine canceling devices that were grabbed as the war ended, some as war booty, remaining thus and others that were put to nefarious purposes.
Apparently, many canceling devices from the General Government were put to use again after the war ended.

Bruce

PS: I think I read another article years ago which stated that faking Nazi "artifacts" was a booming business by 1946 and continued to grow in various areas including stamps and postcards.

PSS: Take it for what it's worth but I believe I posted a common Hitler head on cover with the same Berlin post office as found on the cover shown below. The Hitler head was posted on Hitler's birthday, April 20, 1945, and was faked. An informed collector pointed me to what appeared to be a reputable link that showed these cancels.


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pigdoc

11 Jan 2018
01:24:18pm
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The images of my piece that I posted are of just that - a piece. This is not a full cover. I got it off eBay in the last year or two. I did NOT pay a premium for it being used. As such, I don't have any attachment to a judgment of its authenticity, or lack thereof. It might be a piece simply because there was an attempt made to obliterate whatever features that its originating cover had that were easily outed as faked, if it ever was part of a cover...

In comparing my piece to the expertized cover now on eBay, I see discrepancies between the quality of the cancellations that cause me to call the authenticity of the cancellations on my piece into serious doubt. "ss"? Really? That's quite a coincidence.

That said, it should be pointed out that often, an expertization is just an opinion.

Interesting to me that you can cite an article asserting that cancelling devices were absconded at war's end. Not surprising to me, in the least.

In your last comment, are you referring to the image of my piece that I posted? It would be interesting to me to see images of other items bearing the exact same cancellation. Can you post your Hitler Head cover in this thread?

Thanks, Bruce for your interesting insights on this issue!

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Stampme

11 Jan 2018
04:23:14pm
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Let me do some digging for this cover pigdoc, because it is likely not in the section most such covers are placed and it has been a few years, probably more than I'd care to admit.
Bruce
UPDATE: I just looked through older threads to see if I posted this cover here: There are some interesting answers and illustrations.
Go here: https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=9820#68117
My example did not have the suggestive SS at bottom of cds.

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pigdoc

11 Jan 2018
05:15:44pm
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Interesting post, that earlier one. Is Rhinelander still around?

If nothing else, my piece is just a better forgery than yours! Nyah, nyah!

Just KIDDING!

Thanks,
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12 Jan 2018
06:24:03am

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No, Rhinelander has left Stamporama.

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12 Jan 2018
06:32:31am

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here is something I found on another website (no clear indication of the source though...)

"1. The first day of sale was April 21, not April 20. ALL April 20th
covers are postwar forgeries that were sold for American dollars
(this accounts for about 90% of all known covers).

2. All covers with Berlin W 73 c postmarks (without hour) are forged.

3. A Bedarfsbrief from Berlin-Charlottenburg 2 bn is know from April 25
(not with SA/SS stamps).

4. Berlin-Wilmersdorf 1 ceased operation on the evening of April 21.
All covers with 1a, 1d, 1q and 3d postmarks from the 24th and 25th
are forgeries.

5. All covers with Berlin C25 h and C 25 you postmarks from April 20 & 21
are forgeries.

6. All Berlin C43 o covers from April 21 are forgeries.

7. All Berlin W8 ss covers from April 21 have backdated postmarks.

8. All Berlin W30 covers from April 21, 23 and 24 are either forged or
backdated.

9. The last American bombing raid on Berlin was the morning of April 21.
At midday the Soviet artillery barrage began. All communications
between inner city post offices ceased at this point.

10. It was common practice for dealers to be supplied with new issues
prior to the first day of sale so that they would have ample time to
prepare covers."



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Stampme

12 Jan 2018
04:27:00pm
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Regarding No. 10 on Jan Simon's list: I wonder if German dealers aside from new issues were also supplied with German post office canceling devices to cancel those covers before bringing them to post office for mailing. That might explain why some covers exist: a dealer stamped covers with the last two stamps of the Third Reich but did not deliver them to the bombed out or closed post offices in Berlin. Also it would have been tempting to create those covers in the postwar environment in order to make a few Marks during the slim times of recovery.
Bruce

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12 Jan 2018
06:01:58pm
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Jansimon, your list above was posted by me, either here or on another board. I've got the source but not at this computer at the moment - I'll let you know tomorrow.

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13 Jan 2018
04:47:44am
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Jansimon, this particular list appears in Walch & Strobel, SA/SS-Briefe sind Nachkriegsproduktionen ("SA/SS covers are post-war productions") - I do not have this booklet; details must have appeared elsewhere, possibly on the Third Reich Study Group website.

Harper, Philately of the Third Reich (1998) and Jones, The Philately of Third Reich Germany 1933-1945 (2011) each have similar lists.

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Stampme

13 Jan 2018
09:33:04am
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Thanks Guthrum for posting the origin of the list.
Bruce

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13 Jan 2018
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Yes, I'd like to add my appreciation for the insight on this issue!

The richness of the historical context is the most important reason that I collect stamps, and your contribution has enhanced that dimension immensely!

Thanks, Guthrum!

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Stampme

29 Oct 2017
11:42:15pm

Hello,

The last two stamps of the Third Reich have created a lot of controversy, chiefly revolving around the possibility of finding used copies off or on cover that were not faked after the war. Supposedly none exist and all expert's opinions regarding valid used covers or stamps have been revoked by those in the know in Germany and elsewhere.

If I recall correctly, the SA and SS stamps were printed in Vienna. Now I'm wondering why according to some were the stamps driven to war torn Berlin in April of 1945 and not also delivered to post offices in Vienna where they were printed? At that time Vienna had not been overrun by any Allied forces.

It certainly seems reasonable to believe that if the two stamps had been issued to post offices in Vienna, we would have seen some covers.

Does anyone know the answer: Why only Berlin?

Bruce

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30 Oct 2017
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Hi Bruce,
It is correct that the last official Third Reich stamps were printed in Vienna and it is also a fact (or at least all leading experts assume so) that these stamps somehow managed to be transported from Vienna to Berlin. Berlin was reachable from other parts of Germany until April 26th and these stamps were officially released at the 21st. Why they were released in Berlin and not elsewhere, I do not know and can only assume it has to do with the surreal, truth denying atmosphere in the Fuhrer bunker, where they spent the last days musing about the past, moving ghost armies to the front and phantasizing about the rebuilding of Berlin and Linz according to Hitler and Speer's megalomanic architectural master plans.

There was no real need for stamps in that period, and it is said that the excessive surcharges on almost all stamps were not for charity but just to fill the wallets of the highest nazis, most particularly Hitler himself. Perhaps that's why these new stamps had to be released and sold in Berlin as that would be the only way to get hold of the revenues.

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10 Jan 2018
01:23:43pm

re: The Dreaded Scott B292-93 Last Third Reich Stamps

I was thinking about this issue last night, and to me, it seems highly unlikely that there would have been significant postal usage of this issue prior to VE Day.

For one thing, the purpose of the Semi-postals was to raise revenue for the Third Reich. There would have been hardly any citizen left by April 21, 1945 who would have been motivated to bankroll the Nazis. I have read that the Nazis required business concerns to use semi-postals to raise revenue, but again, I can't imagine that by April 21 there would have been any allegiance towards the Nazis remaining.

Same idea would hold among Austrian citizens, undermining the possibility that there were any of this issue affixed to regular mail in Austrian post offices, with the remotely possible exception of collectors.

At any rate, there would have been very few, if any, copies postally used, in my opinion.
I guess I can imagine the odd collector making an attempt in Vienna, but in Berlin? It must have been quite dangerous to be on the streets at all between April 21 and May 8!

But, here is an item from my collection:Image Not Found

I don't know if I'd assert the cancellation was "faked", but I have no doubt that it is a favor cancellation at the very least. It sure *could* be faked! I have to say that, if I had been a postal worker at that time in Berlin, I would have DEFINITELY created this item for myself! And, maybe a bunch more for my collector-buddies, either for sale or trade.

An interesting question!

Another interesting question came to mind last night. When a 'regime' falls, what happens to all of the postage cancelling devices? Are there any documented cases of these devices making it into the hands of forgers?

As always, I welcome any/all counterpoint!

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10 Jan 2018
02:49:29pm

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I think it is generally accepted now that these are not genuine cancels. There was a detailed thread about this some while ago, and there is plenty of literature available.

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10 Jan 2018
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It might be interesting for someone to write an article, or for us to start a new discussion, about when collectors started adding more value to postally used stamps and covers. Same issue around CTO stamps. When/why did someone decide that putting a "fake" cancel on a stamp made it more valuable than leaving it Unused/Mint.

Apropos to this particular discussion, I can't imagine back in 1945 that someone thought "I need to get this stamp cancelled" to add value. Rather, I would have anticipated the rationale to be moreso "get lots of Unused/Mint copies to set aside".

Pursuing that logic, I would think that adding bogus cancels to stamps was something that occurred much later (maybe in the 1960s/70s?), rather than closer to the time of issue.

Thoughts? Research?

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10 Jan 2018
03:48:22pm

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I see your point, lemaven.

Speaking for myself (only), as I have matured in the hobby (been in it since 1966), more and more, I appreciate the contextual value the cancellation provides.

If I project myself back to late April, 1945, it somehow seems inevitable that I would have recognized what a momentous period that was to be in history. Everyone living in Berlin in April 1945 must have sensed that an end to an era was near. Could a collector in 1945 have envisioned the degree of documentation of issue dates, etc., etc. that exists today, to the extent that he would depend on that in lieu of what he had at hand (the cancellation device)? I think that articles such as what I imaged in this thread (cancelled stamps on a piece) tend to reinforce the value of the contemporary cancellation in the minds of collectors. Articles such as this one are common enough to backup that statement. If not so, why would they be faked?

Maybe, for all the sentiments expressed above, that is the reason that I am, primarily a collector of used stamps, and increasingly, covers. It just seems that the cancellation adds such a wealth of dimension - place and time, at least. And, often much more (occasion, context). To me, the sterility of a mint stamp is a poor substitute for that...Mint stamps in my collection are not much more than spacefillers...

Just my muses...

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Stampme

10 Jan 2018
04:54:59pm

re: The Dreaded Scott B292-93 Last Third Reich Stamps

Speak of the devil as the expression is, well, expressed, there is an expertised cover on eBay bearing both Scott B292 and B293 on cover. It was deemed genuine by Professional Stamp Experts (PSE) in November 2017. Anyone have info on PSE?

According to the seller, PSE had a member on their staff who knew a person that knew the person who actually ran around war torn Berlin to obtain cancellations on cover or something kind of convuluted like that.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/372179163315?ul_noapp=true

As mentioned previously, maybe here, all covers that bore the April 20, 1945 date and were expertised as genuine had the expertising voided and were deemed postwar productions. Expertising was reversed.

Michel catalog now gives the date of release in Berlin of these stamps as April 21, 1945, the day after Hitler's last birthday. There was a time when the date was April 20. I know that Scott used to give April 20.

Interestingly, the portion of the cover shown here is the first time I have ever seen one of these covers postmarked April 21, 1945 rather than April 20. I wouldn't know if that means anything or not but since the date was changed, I would be curious, Pigdoc when you picked up this cover--recently or long ago?

Also there was an article online some years ago that showed all the post office cancellations from Berlin at that time that were deemed faked since post office was either already in Russian hands or was bombed out. Also, the writer mentioned the many German post office genuine canceling devices that were grabbed as the war ended, some as war booty, remaining thus and others that were put to nefarious purposes.
Apparently, many canceling devices from the General Government were put to use again after the war ended.

Bruce

PS: I think I read another article years ago which stated that faking Nazi "artifacts" was a booming business by 1946 and continued to grow in various areas including stamps and postcards.

PSS: Take it for what it's worth but I believe I posted a common Hitler head on cover with the same Berlin post office as found on the cover shown below. The Hitler head was posted on Hitler's birthday, April 20, 1945, and was faked. An informed collector pointed me to what appeared to be a reputable link that showed these cancels.


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11 Jan 2018
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The images of my piece that I posted are of just that - a piece. This is not a full cover. I got it off eBay in the last year or two. I did NOT pay a premium for it being used. As such, I don't have any attachment to a judgment of its authenticity, or lack thereof. It might be a piece simply because there was an attempt made to obliterate whatever features that its originating cover had that were easily outed as faked, if it ever was part of a cover...

In comparing my piece to the expertized cover now on eBay, I see discrepancies between the quality of the cancellations that cause me to call the authenticity of the cancellations on my piece into serious doubt. "ss"? Really? That's quite a coincidence.

That said, it should be pointed out that often, an expertization is just an opinion.

Interesting to me that you can cite an article asserting that cancelling devices were absconded at war's end. Not surprising to me, in the least.

In your last comment, are you referring to the image of my piece that I posted? It would be interesting to me to see images of other items bearing the exact same cancellation. Can you post your Hitler Head cover in this thread?

Thanks, Bruce for your interesting insights on this issue!

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Stampme

11 Jan 2018
04:23:14pm

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Let me do some digging for this cover pigdoc, because it is likely not in the section most such covers are placed and it has been a few years, probably more than I'd care to admit.
Bruce
UPDATE: I just looked through older threads to see if I posted this cover here: There are some interesting answers and illustrations.
Go here: https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=9820#68117
My example did not have the suggestive SS at bottom of cds.

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11 Jan 2018
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Interesting post, that earlier one. Is Rhinelander still around?

If nothing else, my piece is just a better forgery than yours! Nyah, nyah!

Just KIDDING!

Thanks,
Paul

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12 Jan 2018
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No, Rhinelander has left Stamporama.

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12 Jan 2018
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here is something I found on another website (no clear indication of the source though...)

"1. The first day of sale was April 21, not April 20. ALL April 20th
covers are postwar forgeries that were sold for American dollars
(this accounts for about 90% of all known covers).

2. All covers with Berlin W 73 c postmarks (without hour) are forged.

3. A Bedarfsbrief from Berlin-Charlottenburg 2 bn is know from April 25
(not with SA/SS stamps).

4. Berlin-Wilmersdorf 1 ceased operation on the evening of April 21.
All covers with 1a, 1d, 1q and 3d postmarks from the 24th and 25th
are forgeries.

5. All covers with Berlin C25 h and C 25 you postmarks from April 20 & 21
are forgeries.

6. All Berlin C43 o covers from April 21 are forgeries.

7. All Berlin W8 ss covers from April 21 have backdated postmarks.

8. All Berlin W30 covers from April 21, 23 and 24 are either forged or
backdated.

9. The last American bombing raid on Berlin was the morning of April 21.
At midday the Soviet artillery barrage began. All communications
between inner city post offices ceased at this point.

10. It was common practice for dealers to be supplied with new issues
prior to the first day of sale so that they would have ample time to
prepare covers."



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12 Jan 2018
04:27:00pm

re: The Dreaded Scott B292-93 Last Third Reich Stamps

Regarding No. 10 on Jan Simon's list: I wonder if German dealers aside from new issues were also supplied with German post office canceling devices to cancel those covers before bringing them to post office for mailing. That might explain why some covers exist: a dealer stamped covers with the last two stamps of the Third Reich but did not deliver them to the bombed out or closed post offices in Berlin. Also it would have been tempting to create those covers in the postwar environment in order to make a few Marks during the slim times of recovery.
Bruce

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12 Jan 2018
06:01:58pm

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Jansimon, your list above was posted by me, either here or on another board. I've got the source but not at this computer at the moment - I'll let you know tomorrow.

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13 Jan 2018
04:47:44am

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Jansimon, this particular list appears in Walch & Strobel, SA/SS-Briefe sind Nachkriegsproduktionen ("SA/SS covers are post-war productions") - I do not have this booklet; details must have appeared elsewhere, possibly on the Third Reich Study Group website.

Harper, Philately of the Third Reich (1998) and Jones, The Philately of Third Reich Germany 1933-1945 (2011) each have similar lists.

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Stampme

13 Jan 2018
09:33:04am

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Thanks Guthrum for posting the origin of the list.
Bruce

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13 Jan 2018
10:09:00am

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Yes, I'd like to add my appreciation for the insight on this issue!

The richness of the historical context is the most important reason that I collect stamps, and your contribution has enhanced that dimension immensely!

Thanks, Guthrum!

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