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I'd be delighted see lots more on pigeons in wartime
1917 is the centennary of America's entry; next year the centennary of the war's end and armistice
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And as everyone knows, the war to end all wars, started in August 1914. It ended on the eleventh hour on the morning of the eleventh day of the eleventh month of 1918, in a railway car in a park just outside Paris. Eleven AM was French time, noon in Berlin and just after daybreak in the United States.
Actually the serious fighting, for all intents and purposes, had ended about three months earlier when the German generals realized that they could not prevent the Allies from entering Germany and so advised the Kaiser. But to maintain pressure on the retreating German forces some Allied troops, notably the 92nd infantry did make an attack, suffering needless casualties, in the morning of the eleventh of November, up to about 10:30 that morning. For extra points what was the 92nd infantry most notable for ?
Note: Although the Armistice was effected on November 11th, it was actually the 12th in Australia and New Zealand a fact that seems forgotten or ignored in most writings.
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" .... For extra points what was the 92nd infantry most notable for ? ...."
Hint: Buffalo Soldiers.
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The 92nd contained the only African American soldiers to engage in combat in World War 2.
A query on the date for Armistice in Australia which also is remembered/acknowledged on the 11th November. On present day times, Australia is 10 hours ahead of France. This would make the Armistice still fall on the 11th November at 9pm at night if it occurred in France at 11 am. Or have time zones changed???
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on the 92nd in WWII, not quite true. The 93rd also served, although in more piecemeal fashion, primarily in the Pacific Theatre: http://www.blackpast.org/aaw/u-s-ninety-third-infantry-division-1942-1946
Charlie's hint is also the 92nd's nickname
The history of these segragated units is fascinating.
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"And as everyone knows, the war to end all wars, started in August 1914. It ended on the eleventh hour on the morning of the eleventh day of the eleventh month of 1918, in a railway car in a park just outside Paris. Eleven AM was French time, noon in Berlin and just after daybreak in the United States.
Note: Although the Armistice was effected on November 11th, it was actually the 12th in Australia and New Zealand a fact that seems forgotten or ignored in most writings."
How do you figure that? Sydney, Australia (GMT+11) is 10 hours ahead of Paris, France (GMT+1) and Auckland, New Zealand (GMT +13) is 12 hours ahead.
11 AM in Paris would be 9 PM in Sydney and 11 PM in Auckland. I think it would be midnight in Hawaii, so you would have to find an obscure island west of Hawaii and east of the International Date Line to make that claim, and it would be the 10th instead of the 12th.
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So far I see nothing mentioned related to pigeons.......??
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Australia honoured pigeons in WWI, in the 2015 issue of Animals in War:
http://www.centenaryeducation.com.au/stamp_animals_in_war.php
A stamp sheet was also issued in GB, honouring the role of pigeons in WWI:
https://www.collectors-club-of-great-britain.co.uk/stamps-coins/news/stamp-sheet-recalls-the-role-of-pigeons-in-world-war-one
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I wonder if any of the pigeons ever flew across the international date line.
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Do we have any collectors interested in Pigeon Post and the use of Pigeons during wartime? The 100th anniversary of WW1 is in 2018 Please share
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I'd be delighted see lots more on pigeons in wartime
1917 is the centennary of America's entry; next year the centennary of the war's end and armistice
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And as everyone knows, the war to end all wars, started in August 1914. It ended on the eleventh hour on the morning of the eleventh day of the eleventh month of 1918, in a railway car in a park just outside Paris. Eleven AM was French time, noon in Berlin and just after daybreak in the United States.
Actually the serious fighting, for all intents and purposes, had ended about three months earlier when the German generals realized that they could not prevent the Allies from entering Germany and so advised the Kaiser. But to maintain pressure on the retreating German forces some Allied troops, notably the 92nd infantry did make an attack, suffering needless casualties, in the morning of the eleventh of November, up to about 10:30 that morning. For extra points what was the 92nd infantry most notable for ?
Note: Although the Armistice was effected on November 11th, it was actually the 12th in Australia and New Zealand a fact that seems forgotten or ignored in most writings.
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" .... For extra points what was the 92nd infantry most notable for ? ...."
Hint: Buffalo Soldiers.
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The 92nd contained the only African American soldiers to engage in combat in World War 2.
A query on the date for Armistice in Australia which also is remembered/acknowledged on the 11th November. On present day times, Australia is 10 hours ahead of France. This would make the Armistice still fall on the 11th November at 9pm at night if it occurred in France at 11 am. Or have time zones changed???
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on the 92nd in WWII, not quite true. The 93rd also served, although in more piecemeal fashion, primarily in the Pacific Theatre: http://www.blackpast.org/aaw/u-s-ninety-third-infantry-division-1942-1946
Charlie's hint is also the 92nd's nickname
The history of these segragated units is fascinating.
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"And as everyone knows, the war to end all wars, started in August 1914. It ended on the eleventh hour on the morning of the eleventh day of the eleventh month of 1918, in a railway car in a park just outside Paris. Eleven AM was French time, noon in Berlin and just after daybreak in the United States.
Note: Although the Armistice was effected on November 11th, it was actually the 12th in Australia and New Zealand a fact that seems forgotten or ignored in most writings."
How do you figure that? Sydney, Australia (GMT+11) is 10 hours ahead of Paris, France (GMT+1) and Auckland, New Zealand (GMT +13) is 12 hours ahead.
11 AM in Paris would be 9 PM in Sydney and 11 PM in Auckland. I think it would be midnight in Hawaii, so you would have to find an obscure island west of Hawaii and east of the International Date Line to make that claim, and it would be the 10th instead of the 12th.
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So far I see nothing mentioned related to pigeons.......??
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Australia honoured pigeons in WWI, in the 2015 issue of Animals in War:
http://www.centenaryeducation.com.au/stamp_animals_in_war.php
A stamp sheet was also issued in GB, honouring the role of pigeons in WWI:
https://www.collectors-club-of-great-britain.co.uk/stamps-coins/news/stamp-sheet-recalls-the-role-of-pigeons-in-world-war-one
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I wonder if any of the pigeons ever flew across the international date line.
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