What we collect!

 

Stamporama Discussion Board Logo
For People Who Love To Talk About Stamps
Discussion - Member to Member Sales - Research Center
Stamporama Discussion Board Logo
For People Who Love To Talk About Stamps
Discussion - Member to Member Sales - Research Center
Stamporama Discussion Board Logo
For People Who Love To Talk About Stamps



What we collect!
What we collect!


General Philatelic/Identify This? : Canada large Queens SC #29 or #30 ID

 

Author
Postings
seastamp

12 Nov 2017
06:32:54pm
Hi

Looking for help identifying these 15c large Queens. I think the one on the left is simply SC #30, 15c gray, perf 12. The one on the right is clearly a different color, but I don't know if it is the "gray violet" of SC #29. I would call it a blue gray (SC 30b), but the interesting thing is that it is perforated 11-1/2 by 12. If the color really is gray violet, that makes it 29a, in the Scott catalog there is no 11-1/2X12 version of the blue gray #30. Neither have watermarks.

Appreciate input from anyone who really knows these early Canadian stamps.

thanks

John
Image Not Found

Like
Login to Like
this post
cathotel

12 Nov 2017
07:10:45pm
re: Canada large Queens SC #29 or #30 ID

Hi John,

As often is mentioned in this area of the discussion board, colours can vary from monitor to monitor. As I see your two large queens, I would judge both are varieties of #30. My guess is the stamp on the left is Unitrade 30i (slate grey) and the one on the right appears to be 30b (blue grey). Unitrade 30a is perf. 11 1/2x12 but is greenish grey, which your stamp does not appear to be, and my copy so identified is a very different colour than your stamp. Are you certain the stamp on the right is perf. 11 1/2x12? To me (and this is really going out on a limb) the perforations appear to be the same, but at best this is just a guesstimate. The other possibility is that it is an unlisted colour variety, as the early Canadian issues have a range of shades beyond those given a formal catalogue number in Unitrade.

This opinion may (or may not) help you--until a member of greater expertise weighs in on this identification question.

Like
Login to Like
this post
seastamp

12 Nov 2017
09:18:27pm
re: Canada large Queens SC #29 or #30 ID

Thanks for the input, helpful on the color question. The stamp is definitely not perf 12 all around, the sides are definitely 12, the top/bottom isn't. I was just reading about the different perf varieties for early Canadian stamps after a Google search, and found the system generated by Kiusalas. On my gauge it is not quite a perfect 11.5 either, but it sounds like none of these stamps are exactly 12 or 11.5. I saw mention of an 11.75 with other denominations of large Queens, and one article noted 11.6 (and 12s as being actually 12.1). But the one you ID as Unitrade 30a is pretty squarely in the 12 slot on my gauge all around, and I bet the color variant I have is 11.6 X 12.

Like
Login to Like
this post
AntoniusRa
Members Picture


The truth is within and only you can reveal it

13 Nov 2017
11:05:59pm
re: Canada large Queens SC #29 or #30 ID

They appear to me to be Scott #'s 30a and 30e respectively.

Like
Login to Like
this post

mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/mapindex.html
        

 

Author/Postings
seastamp

12 Nov 2017
06:32:54pm

Hi

Looking for help identifying these 15c large Queens. I think the one on the left is simply SC #30, 15c gray, perf 12. The one on the right is clearly a different color, but I don't know if it is the "gray violet" of SC #29. I would call it a blue gray (SC 30b), but the interesting thing is that it is perforated 11-1/2 by 12. If the color really is gray violet, that makes it 29a, in the Scott catalog there is no 11-1/2X12 version of the blue gray #30. Neither have watermarks.

Appreciate input from anyone who really knows these early Canadian stamps.

thanks

John
Image Not Found

Like
Login to Like
this post
cathotel

12 Nov 2017
07:10:45pm

re: Canada large Queens SC #29 or #30 ID

Hi John,

As often is mentioned in this area of the discussion board, colours can vary from monitor to monitor. As I see your two large queens, I would judge both are varieties of #30. My guess is the stamp on the left is Unitrade 30i (slate grey) and the one on the right appears to be 30b (blue grey). Unitrade 30a is perf. 11 1/2x12 but is greenish grey, which your stamp does not appear to be, and my copy so identified is a very different colour than your stamp. Are you certain the stamp on the right is perf. 11 1/2x12? To me (and this is really going out on a limb) the perforations appear to be the same, but at best this is just a guesstimate. The other possibility is that it is an unlisted colour variety, as the early Canadian issues have a range of shades beyond those given a formal catalogue number in Unitrade.

This opinion may (or may not) help you--until a member of greater expertise weighs in on this identification question.

Like
Login to Like
this post
seastamp

12 Nov 2017
09:18:27pm

re: Canada large Queens SC #29 or #30 ID

Thanks for the input, helpful on the color question. The stamp is definitely not perf 12 all around, the sides are definitely 12, the top/bottom isn't. I was just reading about the different perf varieties for early Canadian stamps after a Google search, and found the system generated by Kiusalas. On my gauge it is not quite a perfect 11.5 either, but it sounds like none of these stamps are exactly 12 or 11.5. I saw mention of an 11.75 with other denominations of large Queens, and one article noted 11.6 (and 12s as being actually 12.1). But the one you ID as Unitrade 30a is pretty squarely in the 12 slot on my gauge all around, and I bet the color variant I have is 11.6 X 12.

Like
Login to Like
this post
Members Picture
AntoniusRa

The truth is within and only you can reveal it
13 Nov 2017
11:05:59pm

re: Canada large Queens SC #29 or #30 ID

They appear to me to be Scott #'s 30a and 30e respectively.

Like
Login to Like
this post

mitch.seymourfamily. ...
        

Contact Webmaster | Visitors Online | Unsubscribe Emails | Facebook


User Agreement

Copyright © 2024 Stamporama.com