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When I first found this pair of stamps I thought one had been skinned, but closer examination shows the post mark across the white line.
From the back, it is obviously some sort of paper fold.
But I like it because one stamp is completely normal, and the other has a paper fold.
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Horamakhet
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You will need to make the front and back larger to see the paper fold.
Rob
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Hi Rob,
Hope this is Better
It is a strange fold, like a a "Hessian bag stich"
I have never seen another one, but maybe somewhere out there this is one.
you can also see the impressions of the postmarks, from the back as well.
I found this in opp shop in assortment of modern stamps.
will post front later.
Horamakhet
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I've never seen a curved fold. Will be waiting for the front.
Rob
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Here it is
small tear in upper left corner.
It is easier to see now how the postmark crosses the fold
Really weird
Horamakhet
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It's just an opinion, but the stamp may have been creased and torn by human hands prior to the stamp being affixed to the envelope.
Rob
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Hi Rob
It is one thought,who knows what people do with stamps, but would you get a hessian stitch pattern?
Horamakhet
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Or roller damage from a sorting machine. The stamp may not have been properly affixed to the cover.
Also just an opinion,
WB
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If it were some sort of fold before printing, there would be an uneven shift in the printed image, i.e. a misalignment of the left and right halves at the mark in question;
I see no such misalignment.
It appears to be damage after the fact.
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Hi Musicman
That suggestion is possible as well, but how would you explain a blanket thread creasing on the back.
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Horamakhet
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I have darkened and enlarged the image to make the damage more discernible. It is obvious that from the tear came the crease then the "stitching" from what looks like something catching onto it.
I tend to agree with musicman, it isn't an anomaly, but something which happened during the processing of mail being mechanically sorted out and cancelled.
Rob
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I agree completely, Rob.
Simply a very damaged stamp.
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Thanks to all
That sorts that one out,
I will keep it as an anomaly, and the bad habits of Australia Post.
Horamakhet
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Franz,
Unfortunately, Australian Post does not have a corner on the market of bad habits -
the USA is not any better.
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Hi Everyone;
I have seen this sort of thing many times on modern printed stamps. The ink used is very subject to cracking and flaking off of the paper. This I have especially noticed on Machins that have been creased and then later pressed flat. The stamp may look very flat after pressing, but the ink remains cracked and even missing flecks of ink altogether. These modern inks are just too fragile to survive rough handling.
So yes this is not a pre-printing issue, just rough handling, either by postal employees or the sender themselves.
Just sortin'....
TuskenRaider
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Hi to all
When I first found this pair of stamps I thought one had been skinned, but closer examination shows the post mark across the white line.
From the back, it is obviously some sort of paper fold.
But I like it because one stamp is completely normal, and the other has a paper fold.
Regards
Horamakhet
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19 Nov 2017
09:01:15am
re: CHRISTMAS 1980 UNUSUAL PAIR
You will need to make the front and back larger to see the paper fold.
Rob
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Hi Rob,
Hope this is Better
It is a strange fold, like a a "Hessian bag stich"
I have never seen another one, but maybe somewhere out there this is one.
you can also see the impressions of the postmarks, from the back as well.
I found this in opp shop in assortment of modern stamps.
will post front later.
Horamakhet
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19 Nov 2017
05:17:33pm
re: CHRISTMAS 1980 UNUSUAL PAIR
I've never seen a curved fold. Will be waiting for the front.
Rob
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Here it is
small tear in upper left corner.
It is easier to see now how the postmark crosses the fold
Really weird
Horamakhet
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19 Nov 2017
07:51:11pm
re: CHRISTMAS 1980 UNUSUAL PAIR
It's just an opinion, but the stamp may have been creased and torn by human hands prior to the stamp being affixed to the envelope.
Rob
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Hi Rob
It is one thought,who knows what people do with stamps, but would you get a hessian stitch pattern?
Horamakhet
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Or roller damage from a sorting machine. The stamp may not have been properly affixed to the cover.
Also just an opinion,
WB
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If it were some sort of fold before printing, there would be an uneven shift in the printed image, i.e. a misalignment of the left and right halves at the mark in question;
I see no such misalignment.
It appears to be damage after the fact.
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Hi Musicman
That suggestion is possible as well, but how would you explain a blanket thread creasing on the back.
Regards.
Horamakhet
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28 Nov 2017
04:26:49pm
re: CHRISTMAS 1980 UNUSUAL PAIR
I have darkened and enlarged the image to make the damage more discernible. It is obvious that from the tear came the crease then the "stitching" from what looks like something catching onto it.
I tend to agree with musicman, it isn't an anomaly, but something which happened during the processing of mail being mechanically sorted out and cancelled.
Rob
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I agree completely, Rob.
Simply a very damaged stamp.
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Thanks to all
That sorts that one out,
I will keep it as an anomaly, and the bad habits of Australia Post.
Horamakhet
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Franz,
Unfortunately, Australian Post does not have a corner on the market of bad habits -
the USA is not any better.
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re: CHRISTMAS 1980 UNUSUAL PAIR
Hi Everyone;
I have seen this sort of thing many times on modern printed stamps. The ink used is very subject to cracking and flaking off of the paper. This I have especially noticed on Machins that have been creased and then later pressed flat. The stamp may look very flat after pressing, but the ink remains cracked and even missing flecks of ink altogether. These modern inks are just too fragile to survive rough handling.
So yes this is not a pre-printing issue, just rough handling, either by postal employees or the sender themselves.
Just sortin'....
TuskenRaider
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