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spikeola
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28 Nov 2017
01:47:51pm
Can I use photo albums to store my stamps?
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28 Nov 2017
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you can, but only if the acetate is archival. if you're not sure, you probably shouldn't


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28 Nov 2017
02:49:45pm

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You might also want to make sure that the pages do not have any kind of sticky substance, often used to hold photos in place. Stamps will stick and may never come off.

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28 Nov 2017
04:25:24pm
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There are many different kinds of photo albums.

Some yes, some no.

If you are considering the type that used to be called "magnetic photo albums", with a peel-away plastic cover over a cardboard page that has stripes of adhesive to hold the photos in place, the answer is "absolutely not!"

As a dealer who buys collections nearly every week, I have seen these used many times, and I have come to the point where I will no longer even look at a collection stored in these. After a few years, the stamps are typically unsalvageable and it's not worth the aggravation.

The best solution is an inexpensive stockbook made for stamps.

Roy

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28 Nov 2017
07:21:51pm
re: storing stamps

Mike, photo albums are really a no no. Until you decide what direction you wish your collection to go I would suggest you use stockbooks.
No hinging, no mounts, and easy to move stamps around if you need.
They are widely available and can be picked up at dealers or auctions lightly used.
Here is a link to give you an idea price wise.
http://www.subwaystamp.com/White-Pages/products/20/
Meanwhile, welcome to Stamporama and ask away, no questions are too basic and they always help those not wanting to ask.
Vic

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01 Dec 2017
12:01:45pm
re: storing stamps

Thank you for the tips and info...you saved my collection as i had already purchased some used photo albums...will stick with the stock books when I can afford them...I am disabled and only can work 10hrs a week but it gives me plenty of time to spend on sorting and cataloging my stamps.
blessings to all,
Spike

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01 Dec 2017
05:51:25pm
re: storing stamps

Spike:

I don't know if you live near a local stamp club, but if it's a stamp club where there are auctions (mine has a meeting every month, where a members' auction is a big part of the meeting), but I often see used stockbooks going for cheap. You might want to check that out. And the real upsides of that are that (1) you can inspect them and see if they'd be in good enough condition for your stamps, and (2) you don't have to pay shipping!

Most of the clubs I'm aware of don't necessarily require you to become a member to participate in their auctions or sales as a bidder/buyer -- though they sometimes do in order to be able to offer up material for auction.

Might be worth checking it out!

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16 Apr 2018
05:11:35pm
re: storing stamps

Leuchtturm/Lighthouse Streifen?Strips (Top opening Mounts)
I'm told there are no silly questions here but...
I have been mounting stamps with Split Back mounts for a few years. However I cannot always get the sizes I need for especially for larger stamps and souvenir sheets.
On this last order I went with a few packages of top opening stamps. Some Unisafe "S" series mounts and some of the Lighthouse strips.

the Unisafe are easy enough. They as expected open at the top. The Lighthouse brand though are double sealed top and bottom... The illustration on the package definitely shows top opening... how am I intended to use them as that?


I am probably missing something basic. I'm sorry if this is a "Well Duh" kind of question.

Can anyone who has used these mounts give me some instruction please?

thank you

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Rene1
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17 Apr 2018
10:57:20am
re: storing stamps

further to my post yesterday on the Lighthouse Stamp mounts... that are sealed top and bottom...having looked around the net... I gather that they are a different animal again from the top opening or split back...

They are certainly different for taking the stamps.

Rene

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Tom in Exton, PA

17 Apr 2018
07:29:30pm

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I don't like the idea of split back mounts.. it hits me that is the side we apply moisture... and there's a crack there directly adjacent to the MNH gum!

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StamperMA
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17 Apr 2018
07:58:41pm
re: storing stamps

I feel split back mounts are perfectly fine if used correctly per the instructions. That is use small amounts of water, moisten the area in a half-circle shape keeping water away from the edges, and give them a minute or so to dry before mounting the stamp.

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Cactusjack
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17 Apr 2018
08:16:58pm
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I have seen a huge number of MNH stamps in split back mounts that have had a line of disturbed gum where the line was. They are probably great for the people who know how to use them but a great many do not use them correctly. Most of the split back albums that I have broken down over the years have had 50% or greater gum damaged stamps. Not one of the 8 to 10 albums that I have broken down have had 100% perfect MNH stamps in them.

Jim

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Rene1
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17 Apr 2018
09:43:49pm
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That is very interesting Cactus Jack. I will certainly investigate that. What in your opinion is the cause of that?
I use a small moistened artist brush to 'wet' a bit of the gum on one side of the back, avoiding all edges esp the split.
Thanks guys for your input

Rene

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vinman
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17 Apr 2018
10:27:41pm
re: storing stamps

I use split back mounts. I use a glue pen to attach them to the page. It doesn't take much. I keep my albums upright so there is no pressure on the mount or stamp. I also don't overfill my albums either.
When I did mount using spit it would make a small bump on the back of the page. With a glue pen this does not happen.

Vince

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Tom in Exton, PA

18 Apr 2018
09:27:03pm

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"That is very interesting Cactus Jack. I will certainly investigate that. What in your opinion is the cause of that?"



The average person doesn't read or follow instructions. Here's the process for using split back mounts... aka "spit back mounts"...

1. Put stamp in mount
2. Run mount down the length of your extended tongue
3. Affix to album page

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18 Apr 2018
10:13:35pm
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Oh Ben Happy

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20 Apr 2019
04:54:32pm
re: storing stamps

Following on from, amsd's comment in another thread, I found this article on the web about Crystal Mounts. Interesting reading.

https://www.apfelbauminc.com/blog/post/evolution-of-stamp-mounts//

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21 Apr 2019
12:12:14am
re: storing stamps

Very interesting article, Victor, but I'd take issue
with the remark where they say that the Harris Crystal
Mounts started the craze in about 1950.
I seem to recall some pre-WW II mounts described by
Herman Herst that someone produced that became something
of a monopoly during the war. If memory serves me right
Herst wrote that after the war that companies products
became anathema due to their selfish (?) attitude when
things were difficult.
Now I am sure I read this no later than the mid- '70s
so the thought may be subject to a mis-interpretation
then and a faltering recollection now.
But there was something before 195o.

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21 Apr 2019
06:22:44am
re: storing stamps

The Apfelbaum article does not seem to equate using a stamp mount that can cause damage to stamps and hinging stamps that can cause to stamps.

The statement that hinging does not cause damage to albums again depends on hinges used and person applying the hinges. A previously never hinged stamp (unused or used) is rarely the same stamp after hinging.

Like many advancements, Crystal Mounts solved the majority of one problem but introduced another.


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23 Apr 2019
07:33:12pm
re: storing stamps

I have question. I quite often buy stamps affixed to pages with hinges. I usually try to remove the hinge remnants before either re-hinging or using crystal mounts. I do not usually waste crystal mounting on very cheap stamps. I have occasionally, not very often since I am very careful, damaged older brittle stamps when I remove the hinge. Should I even try to remove the hinge remnant or should I hinge over the hinge. I really hate to soak the stamp, especially if it still has some of its original glue. What do you people out there do.

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28 Nov 2017
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Can I use photo albums to store my stamps?

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amsd

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28 Nov 2017
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you can, but only if the acetate is archival. if you're not sure, you probably shouldn't


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28 Nov 2017
02:49:45pm

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re: storing stamps

You might also want to make sure that the pages do not have any kind of sticky substance, often used to hold photos in place. Stamps will stick and may never come off.

Mel

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28 Nov 2017
04:25:24pm

re: storing stamps

There are many different kinds of photo albums.

Some yes, some no.

If you are considering the type that used to be called "magnetic photo albums", with a peel-away plastic cover over a cardboard page that has stripes of adhesive to hold the photos in place, the answer is "absolutely not!"

As a dealer who buys collections nearly every week, I have seen these used many times, and I have come to the point where I will no longer even look at a collection stored in these. After a few years, the stamps are typically unsalvageable and it's not worth the aggravation.

The best solution is an inexpensive stockbook made for stamps.

Roy

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sheepshanks

28 Nov 2017
07:21:51pm

re: storing stamps

Mike, photo albums are really a no no. Until you decide what direction you wish your collection to go I would suggest you use stockbooks.
No hinging, no mounts, and easy to move stamps around if you need.
They are widely available and can be picked up at dealers or auctions lightly used.
Here is a link to give you an idea price wise.
http://www.subwaystamp.com/White-Pages/products/20/
Meanwhile, welcome to Stamporama and ask away, no questions are too basic and they always help those not wanting to ask.
Vic

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01 Dec 2017
12:01:45pm

re: storing stamps

Thank you for the tips and info...you saved my collection as i had already purchased some used photo albums...will stick with the stock books when I can afford them...I am disabled and only can work 10hrs a week but it gives me plenty of time to spend on sorting and cataloging my stamps.
blessings to all,
Spike

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01 Dec 2017
05:51:25pm

re: storing stamps

Spike:

I don't know if you live near a local stamp club, but if it's a stamp club where there are auctions (mine has a meeting every month, where a members' auction is a big part of the meeting), but I often see used stockbooks going for cheap. You might want to check that out. And the real upsides of that are that (1) you can inspect them and see if they'd be in good enough condition for your stamps, and (2) you don't have to pay shipping!

Most of the clubs I'm aware of don't necessarily require you to become a member to participate in their auctions or sales as a bidder/buyer -- though they sometimes do in order to be able to offer up material for auction.

Might be worth checking it out!

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16 Apr 2018
05:11:35pm

re: storing stamps

Leuchtturm/Lighthouse Streifen?Strips (Top opening Mounts)
I'm told there are no silly questions here but...
I have been mounting stamps with Split Back mounts for a few years. However I cannot always get the sizes I need for especially for larger stamps and souvenir sheets.
On this last order I went with a few packages of top opening stamps. Some Unisafe "S" series mounts and some of the Lighthouse strips.

the Unisafe are easy enough. They as expected open at the top. The Lighthouse brand though are double sealed top and bottom... The illustration on the package definitely shows top opening... how am I intended to use them as that?


I am probably missing something basic. I'm sorry if this is a "Well Duh" kind of question.

Can anyone who has used these mounts give me some instruction please?

thank you

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Rene1

17 Apr 2018
10:57:20am

re: storing stamps

further to my post yesterday on the Lighthouse Stamp mounts... that are sealed top and bottom...having looked around the net... I gather that they are a different animal again from the top opening or split back...

They are certainly different for taking the stamps.

Rene

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Tom in Exton, PA
17 Apr 2018
07:29:30pm

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re: storing stamps

I don't like the idea of split back mounts.. it hits me that is the side we apply moisture... and there's a crack there directly adjacent to the MNH gum!

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StamperMA

17 Apr 2018
07:58:41pm

re: storing stamps

I feel split back mounts are perfectly fine if used correctly per the instructions. That is use small amounts of water, moisten the area in a half-circle shape keeping water away from the edges, and give them a minute or so to dry before mounting the stamp.

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Cactusjack

17 Apr 2018
08:16:58pm

re: storing stamps

I have seen a huge number of MNH stamps in split back mounts that have had a line of disturbed gum where the line was. They are probably great for the people who know how to use them but a great many do not use them correctly. Most of the split back albums that I have broken down over the years have had 50% or greater gum damaged stamps. Not one of the 8 to 10 albums that I have broken down have had 100% perfect MNH stamps in them.

Jim

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17 Apr 2018
09:43:49pm

re: storing stamps

That is very interesting Cactus Jack. I will certainly investigate that. What in your opinion is the cause of that?
I use a small moistened artist brush to 'wet' a bit of the gum on one side of the back, avoiding all edges esp the split.
Thanks guys for your input

Rene

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vinman

17 Apr 2018
10:27:41pm

re: storing stamps

I use split back mounts. I use a glue pen to attach them to the page. It doesn't take much. I keep my albums upright so there is no pressure on the mount or stamp. I also don't overfill my albums either.
When I did mount using spit it would make a small bump on the back of the page. With a glue pen this does not happen.

Vince

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Tom in Exton, PA
18 Apr 2018
09:27:03pm

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re: storing stamps

"That is very interesting Cactus Jack. I will certainly investigate that. What in your opinion is the cause of that?"



The average person doesn't read or follow instructions. Here's the process for using split back mounts... aka "spit back mounts"...

1. Put stamp in mount
2. Run mount down the length of your extended tongue
3. Affix to album page

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Rene1

18 Apr 2018
10:13:35pm

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Oh Ben Happy

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20 Apr 2019
04:54:32pm

re: storing stamps

Following on from, amsd's comment in another thread, I found this article on the web about Crystal Mounts. Interesting reading.

https://www.apfelbauminc.com/blog/post/evolution-of-stamp-mounts//

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21 Apr 2019
12:12:14am

re: storing stamps

Very interesting article, Victor, but I'd take issue
with the remark where they say that the Harris Crystal
Mounts started the craze in about 1950.
I seem to recall some pre-WW II mounts described by
Herman Herst that someone produced that became something
of a monopoly during the war. If memory serves me right
Herst wrote that after the war that companies products
became anathema due to their selfish (?) attitude when
things were difficult.
Now I am sure I read this no later than the mid- '70s
so the thought may be subject to a mis-interpretation
then and a faltering recollection now.
But there was something before 195o.

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21 Apr 2019
06:22:44am

re: storing stamps

The Apfelbaum article does not seem to equate using a stamp mount that can cause damage to stamps and hinging stamps that can cause to stamps.

The statement that hinging does not cause damage to albums again depends on hinges used and person applying the hinges. A previously never hinged stamp (unused or used) is rarely the same stamp after hinging.

Like many advancements, Crystal Mounts solved the majority of one problem but introduced another.


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23 Apr 2019
07:33:12pm

re: storing stamps

I have question. I quite often buy stamps affixed to pages with hinges. I usually try to remove the hinge remnants before either re-hinging or using crystal mounts. I do not usually waste crystal mounting on very cheap stamps. I have occasionally, not very often since I am very careful, damaged older brittle stamps when I remove the hinge. Should I even try to remove the hinge remnant or should I hinge over the hinge. I really hate to soak the stamp, especially if it still has some of its original glue. What do you people out there do.

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