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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Buyer Beware: The Old Cliche Still Waits To Sting Or Not To Sting

 

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Stampme

13 Jan 2018
09:27:38am
Hello,

A seller on eBay has been offering an assortment of Nazi postcards, many featuring Hitler. The many I have looked at have been unaddressed but have one or two Hitler head stamps from the 1941-45 series on the address side.

The cards have been canceled with various postmarks, some pictorial, some plain cds and others from the military. One of the pictorial cancels is smaller than the original cancel and is placed on a card from 1940, long after that cancel was discontinued.

Many of the postcards are considered to be very uncommon and command prices that often reach several hundred dollars--when authentic...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Deutsches-Reich-WWII-Hitler-Head-Stamp-5P-Stamped-Blacksmith-Postcard-GermanyWW2/132466096145?hash=item1ed7983811:g:k-4AAOSw-RhaV0FN

I emailed the seller, asking him if the postcards and postmarks were post WWII fakes?

His reply was technically honest:

"Hello,

Thank you! I'm not a postcard card specialist.
if you look carefully for a second, all my listings are in the category stamps. I sell stamps. and these stamps are 100% authentic"

Caveat emptor: I will let readers decide.

Bruce


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13 Jan 2018
09:33:02am
re: Buyer Beware: The Old Cliche Still Waits To Sting Or Not To Sting

Just another shady seller....

many of us have run across those on Ebay from time to time.

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Tom in Exton, PA

13 Jan 2018
09:59:49am

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re: Buyer Beware: The Old Cliche Still Waits To Sting Or Not To Sting

wasn't there a thread recently about a German dealer who counterfeited such covers and cards?

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13 Jan 2018
11:04:52am
re: Buyer Beware: The Old Cliche Still Waits To Sting Or Not To Sting

Many sellers like to play with descriptor wording. That's why we don't allow it on the Stamporama sales platform.

Another example, I saw a listing for a couple of Scott International Stamp Albums. At the end of the title the seller added the word "Rare". I asked him how he could say the albums were "rare" when one can buy them directly from Scott or any other dealer today. His response was that when he listed the albums, there were only a couple others listed, making them "rare" on ebay.

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13 Jan 2018
02:02:14pm
re: Buyer Beware: The Old Cliche Still Waits To Sting Or Not To Sting

The postcard itself looks like a poorly printed reproduction, and the cancel looks like it was produced by a rubber stamp from a stamp pad.

Roy

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14 Jan 2018
01:57:04am
re: Buyer Beware: The Old Cliche Still Waits To Sting Or Not To Sting

"https://www.ebay.com/itm/Deutsches-Reich-WWII-Hitler-Head-Stamp-5P-Stamped-Blacksmith-Postcard-GermanyWW2/132466096145?hash=item1ed7983811:g:k-4AAOSw-RhaV0FN"




It´s a Private production. on the back "Selbstverlag" means in English "Self-Publishing".



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pigdoc

14 Jan 2018
11:05:59am
re: Buyer Beware: The Old Cliche Still Waits To Sting Or Not To Sting

I totally agree that these are all fakes.
Typically, the Nazi 'ceremonial' cancels are very clear and carefully applied. On this seller's items, they're universally faint, or blurry.


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15 Jan 2018
08:02:05pm
re: Buyer Beware: The Old Cliche Still Waits To Sting Or Not To Sting

I'm not sure if I need to see my bank manager for this lot, seems to be really rare Hong Kong stamps!
On that basis mine are worth a fortune, probably enough to retire.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/VERY-RARE-Queen-Elizabeth-II-Hong-Kong-Stamps-SCOTT-CAT-1900/122911717810
Do not think he wants to sell or maybe he is waiting for some gullible fool.

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Stampme

13 Jan 2018
09:27:38am

Hello,

A seller on eBay has been offering an assortment of Nazi postcards, many featuring Hitler. The many I have looked at have been unaddressed but have one or two Hitler head stamps from the 1941-45 series on the address side.

The cards have been canceled with various postmarks, some pictorial, some plain cds and others from the military. One of the pictorial cancels is smaller than the original cancel and is placed on a card from 1940, long after that cancel was discontinued.

Many of the postcards are considered to be very uncommon and command prices that often reach several hundred dollars--when authentic...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Deutsches-Reich-WWII-Hitler-Head-Stamp-5P-Stamped-Blacksmith-Postcard-GermanyWW2/132466096145?hash=item1ed7983811:g:k-4AAOSw-RhaV0FN

I emailed the seller, asking him if the postcards and postmarks were post WWII fakes?

His reply was technically honest:

"Hello,

Thank you! I'm not a postcard card specialist.
if you look carefully for a second, all my listings are in the category stamps. I sell stamps. and these stamps are 100% authentic"

Caveat emptor: I will let readers decide.

Bruce


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13 Jan 2018
09:33:02am

re: Buyer Beware: The Old Cliche Still Waits To Sting Or Not To Sting

Just another shady seller....

many of us have run across those on Ebay from time to time.

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Tom in Exton, PA
13 Jan 2018
09:59:49am

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re: Buyer Beware: The Old Cliche Still Waits To Sting Or Not To Sting

wasn't there a thread recently about a German dealer who counterfeited such covers and cards?

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michael78651

13 Jan 2018
11:04:52am

re: Buyer Beware: The Old Cliche Still Waits To Sting Or Not To Sting

Many sellers like to play with descriptor wording. That's why we don't allow it on the Stamporama sales platform.

Another example, I saw a listing for a couple of Scott International Stamp Albums. At the end of the title the seller added the word "Rare". I asked him how he could say the albums were "rare" when one can buy them directly from Scott or any other dealer today. His response was that when he listed the albums, there were only a couple others listed, making them "rare" on ebay.

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13 Jan 2018
02:02:14pm

re: Buyer Beware: The Old Cliche Still Waits To Sting Or Not To Sting

The postcard itself looks like a poorly printed reproduction, and the cancel looks like it was produced by a rubber stamp from a stamp pad.

Roy

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14 Jan 2018
01:57:04am

re: Buyer Beware: The Old Cliche Still Waits To Sting Or Not To Sting

"https://www.ebay.com/itm/Deutsches-Reich-WWII-Hitler-Head-Stamp-5P-Stamped-Blacksmith-Postcard-GermanyWW2/132466096145?hash=item1ed7983811:g:k-4AAOSw-RhaV0FN"




It´s a Private production. on the back "Selbstverlag" means in English "Self-Publishing".



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pigdoc

14 Jan 2018
11:05:59am

re: Buyer Beware: The Old Cliche Still Waits To Sting Or Not To Sting

I totally agree that these are all fakes.
Typically, the Nazi 'ceremonial' cancels are very clear and carefully applied. On this seller's items, they're universally faint, or blurry.


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sheepshanks

15 Jan 2018
08:02:05pm

re: Buyer Beware: The Old Cliche Still Waits To Sting Or Not To Sting

I'm not sure if I need to see my bank manager for this lot, seems to be really rare Hong Kong stamps!
On that basis mine are worth a fortune, probably enough to retire.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/VERY-RARE-Queen-Elizabeth-II-Hong-Kong-Stamps-SCOTT-CAT-1900/122911717810
Do not think he wants to sell or maybe he is waiting for some gullible fool.

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