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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : eBay - Be Wary of Using eBay For Price Research

 

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BenFranklin1902
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Tom in Exton, PA

08 Mar 2018
10:58:46am

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We all do it. And this was a sub topic in a recent thread. I saw this on the eCommerce Blog the other day so I thought I'd share the caution. BTW, this is an excellent site devoted to everything ecommerce and keeping up with eBay changes! I have subscribed for years.


https://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/blog/blog.pl?/pl/2018/3/1520110944.html

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APS member since 2004

08 Mar 2018
07:28:23pm
re: eBay - Be Wary of Using eBay For Price Research

Be cognisant that eBay is an auction. Anything can happen at an auction. All you need is two bidders and something can sell for a huge price.

Anyone can list something with a huge starting bid and there is always one born every minute to buy it.

It is in no way an accurate nor fair guide to pricing.

Just my auctioneers opinion... and I could write a book about some people's expectations of auctions.

David Giles
Principle Auctioneer
Sparks Auctions
Ottawa, Canada

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..

09 Mar 2018
01:07:14am
re: eBay - Be Wary of Using eBay For Price Research

Did I read the e-Commerce note correctly ?
20% to 30% non-payed for auctions!!!
Does that not ring the bell that warns
that someone is not doing something right ?

In almost twenty years of 'on line' auctions
I have never failed to pay for a won lot
in a timely manner, and probably forty years
of snail mail auctions as well.
Even when I discovered I had entered an "438"
in a Vance Auction that looked more like a "436"
I paid up and wound up with a shoebox
full of Union of South Africa common stamps
suitable for a specialist's study group.

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09 Mar 2018
02:25:09am
re: eBay - Be Wary of Using eBay For Price Research

In the case of the British Cartel guy and US classics, I suspect that as many as 2/3 (66%) of the higher priced eBay sales are ‘non-pay’ (since shill bidding and selling to another one of your own accounts would be a type of non-pay). This has been going on for over 10 years and he has single handedly nullified using any eBay ‘sold’ research on higher priced US Classics stamps. There are literally hundreds of ‘sold’ listings for high priced stamps from him which are not actual sales including many in which have little other sales history.
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BenFranklin1902

Tom in Exton, PA
08 Mar 2018
10:58:46am

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We all do it. And this was a sub topic in a recent thread. I saw this on the eCommerce Blog the other day so I thought I'd share the caution. BTW, this is an excellent site devoted to everything ecommerce and keeping up with eBay changes! I have subscribed for years.


https://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/blog/blog.pl?/pl/2018/3/1520110944.html

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DavidG

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08 Mar 2018
07:28:23pm

re: eBay - Be Wary of Using eBay For Price Research

Be cognisant that eBay is an auction. Anything can happen at an auction. All you need is two bidders and something can sell for a huge price.

Anyone can list something with a huge starting bid and there is always one born every minute to buy it.

It is in no way an accurate nor fair guide to pricing.

Just my auctioneers opinion... and I could write a book about some people's expectations of auctions.

David Giles
Principle Auctioneer
Sparks Auctions
Ottawa, Canada

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"President, The Society for Costa Rica Collectors"

Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
09 Mar 2018
01:07:14am

re: eBay - Be Wary of Using eBay For Price Research

Did I read the e-Commerce note correctly ?
20% to 30% non-payed for auctions!!!
Does that not ring the bell that warns
that someone is not doing something right ?

In almost twenty years of 'on line' auctions
I have never failed to pay for a won lot
in a timely manner, and probably forty years
of snail mail auctions as well.
Even when I discovered I had entered an "438"
in a Vance Auction that looked more like a "436"
I paid up and wound up with a shoebox
full of Union of South Africa common stamps
suitable for a specialist's study group.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
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51Studebaker

Dialysis, damned if you do...dead if you don't
09 Mar 2018
02:25:09am

re: eBay - Be Wary of Using eBay For Price Research

In the case of the British Cartel guy and US classics, I suspect that as many as 2/3 (66%) of the higher priced eBay sales are ‘non-pay’ (since shill bidding and selling to another one of your own accounts would be a type of non-pay). This has been going on for over 10 years and he has single handedly nullified using any eBay ‘sold’ research on higher priced US Classics stamps. There are literally hundreds of ‘sold’ listings for high priced stamps from him which are not actual sales including many in which have little other sales history.
Don

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