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Off Topic/Non-philatelic Disc. : Bulk rate and nonprofit org. stamps

 

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ren437
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24 Apr 2018
03:55:04pm
I have some mint hinged bulk rate and nonprofit org. transportation coils that I would like to combine with 44 cent stamps to make up the current postage rate. Is this permissible?
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michael78651
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24 Apr 2018
06:49:08pm
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You need a permit from the post office to be able to do that. The permit is free, and the application easy to fill out.

Go to your post office and ask for Form 3615. You only need to complete the section to get authorization to use "Precanceled Stamps Authorization".

If the postal clerk says you have to pay for the permit, refer the clerk to DMM Rule P023.

When you use those stamps, you must mark the envelope "First Class", and place those stamps to the right of that. You do not have to include your permit number, but I always do to avoid hassles, like so, "First Class Mailer Permit #55555.

You are required to physically hand the envelope to a postal clerk at the post office where the permit was issued. If you place it in a collection box, it will be returned to you postage due.

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25 Apr 2018
01:07:12am
re: Bulk rate and nonprofit org. stamps

Michael numbers is 100% correct. I have a permit at my local PO, but it's a small rural location, so I printed out the DMM and took it with me. Sure enough, I had to show them the reg to get them to issue the permit.

I used the permit occasionally, but not frequently. After several years I had some pre-cancelled extras to burn through so I added the correct amount of postage, marked the piece as "First Class" (I do it at the bottom middle of the envelope) and added the permit number (as Michael suggests - not required, but not a bad idea), and took it to my local PO (remember, you can ONLY do this at the PO that issued the permit and you MUST present it at the counter).

I presented the properly franked and marked item at the window and the clerk did not want to accept it. He did not recognize this as a valid use. I always took my signed permit with me to the PO just in case there was a newbie that didn't know the regs, but this was an old hand at that PO. When I pulled out the signed permit and showed it to him, he was a bit sheepish since HE was the one that issued it over 5 years earlier. I have permit #1 at my local PO and I would not be surprised to learn that they have yet to issue permit #2. I really can't blame him for forgetting this one obscure rule from over 5 years ago, so keep your documentation handy!

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25 Apr 2018
08:30:18am

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re: Bulk rate and nonprofit org. stamps

i'd recommend downloading 3615 from USPS.gov rather than asking the local PO for it. they're unlikely to know about it and have no idea where to start looking.

armed with that form, you can mail using nothing but discount postage, or in combo.


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25 Apr 2018
08:43:06am
re: Bulk rate and nonprofit org. stamps

I plan to fill out the form but noticed that it seems to indicate a one time fee is required for a permit although I have been told there is no fee.

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25 Apr 2018
09:47:15am
re: Bulk rate and nonprofit org. stamps

There is no fee to obtain and use the permit for only authorization to use precanceled stamps.

Here is the rule from Section 604 of the USPS Domestic Mail Manual:

3.2 Permit to Use Precanceled Stamps

3.2.1 Authorization to Use Precanceled Stamps

A mailer who wants to use USPS-precanceled stamps and stamped envelopes must complete Form 3615 and file it at the Post Office where mailings are to be deposited. If an applicant has a completed Form 3615 on file for other services, precanceled authorization is annotated on the existing application. There is no fee for this permit.

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ren437

24 Apr 2018
03:55:04pm

I have some mint hinged bulk rate and nonprofit org. transportation coils that I would like to combine with 44 cent stamps to make up the current postage rate. Is this permissible?

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michael78651

24 Apr 2018
06:49:08pm

re: Bulk rate and nonprofit org. stamps

You need a permit from the post office to be able to do that. The permit is free, and the application easy to fill out.

Go to your post office and ask for Form 3615. You only need to complete the section to get authorization to use "Precanceled Stamps Authorization".

If the postal clerk says you have to pay for the permit, refer the clerk to DMM Rule P023.

When you use those stamps, you must mark the envelope "First Class", and place those stamps to the right of that. You do not have to include your permit number, but I always do to avoid hassles, like so, "First Class Mailer Permit #55555.

You are required to physically hand the envelope to a postal clerk at the post office where the permit was issued. If you place it in a collection box, it will be returned to you postage due.

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larsdog

APS #220693 ATA#57179
25 Apr 2018
01:07:12am

re: Bulk rate and nonprofit org. stamps

Michael numbers is 100% correct. I have a permit at my local PO, but it's a small rural location, so I printed out the DMM and took it with me. Sure enough, I had to show them the reg to get them to issue the permit.

I used the permit occasionally, but not frequently. After several years I had some pre-cancelled extras to burn through so I added the correct amount of postage, marked the piece as "First Class" (I do it at the bottom middle of the envelope) and added the permit number (as Michael suggests - not required, but not a bad idea), and took it to my local PO (remember, you can ONLY do this at the PO that issued the permit and you MUST present it at the counter).

I presented the properly franked and marked item at the window and the clerk did not want to accept it. He did not recognize this as a valid use. I always took my signed permit with me to the PO just in case there was a newbie that didn't know the regs, but this was an old hand at that PO. When I pulled out the signed permit and showed it to him, he was a bit sheepish since HE was the one that issued it over 5 years earlier. I have permit #1 at my local PO and I would not be surprised to learn that they have yet to issue permit #2. I really can't blame him for forgetting this one obscure rule from over 5 years ago, so keep your documentation handy!

Lars

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Editor, Seal News; contributor, JuicyHeads
25 Apr 2018
08:30:18am

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re: Bulk rate and nonprofit org. stamps

i'd recommend downloading 3615 from USPS.gov rather than asking the local PO for it. they're unlikely to know about it and have no idea where to start looking.

armed with that form, you can mail using nothing but discount postage, or in combo.


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angore

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25 Apr 2018
08:43:06am

re: Bulk rate and nonprofit org. stamps

I plan to fill out the form but noticed that it seems to indicate a one time fee is required for a permit although I have been told there is no fee.

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michael78651

25 Apr 2018
09:47:15am

re: Bulk rate and nonprofit org. stamps

There is no fee to obtain and use the permit for only authorization to use precanceled stamps.

Here is the rule from Section 604 of the USPS Domestic Mail Manual:

3.2 Permit to Use Precanceled Stamps

3.2.1 Authorization to Use Precanceled Stamps

A mailer who wants to use USPS-precanceled stamps and stamped envelopes must complete Form 3615 and file it at the Post Office where mailings are to be deposited. If an applicant has a completed Form 3615 on file for other services, precanceled authorization is annotated on the existing application. There is no fee for this permit.

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