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Linus
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23 Jun 2018
09:22:38am
I recently found these 2 covers at the local flea market. I learned that Alabama is the name of a small town in New York. I think the South Alabama cover is a DPO. Can anyone confirm that?

Linus

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23 Jun 2018
11:22:16am
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The Alabama post office was discontinued October 12, 2002.

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The Postmaster Finder (Post Offices by State) doesn't show a listing for South Alabama.

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23 Jun 2018
12:31:05pm
re: Alabama is in New York

Both Alabama and South Alabama are in Genessee county, NY, up near Lake Ontario.
Looking at a map, South Alabama is just southeast of Alabama. Makes sense, I guess...

Jim Forte's site lists South Alabama PO as being in operation 1850-1904. And, it lists Alabama as being commissioned in 1828.

Towns Named After States.
Hmmm, that could be an interesting collecting area...

Speaking of old POs,
I'm already attracted to ghost towns named after big towns as a cover collecting area. Like Nashville, Iowa, a few miles west of where I grew up....

The history of these teeny, tiny POs can be very intriguing. Often, there's a tremendous amount of hegemony among postmasters. One of the DPOs I collect is Thompson, Delaware. Yes, every postmaster this (ghost) town ever had was a Thompson! I'm still trying to determine if the PO and the train station shared a building, or even a window to sell tickets or stamps as the need arose...After the RR went Tango Uniform in 1916, the town withered.

Speaking of postmasters, for the POs that had a designated salary for the postmaster, these were highly political appointments in the 19th century. In hotly contested towns, the PM's political party would change with the President's.

Love DPOs!
-Paul

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23 Jun 2018
01:13:03pm
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That's a lovely triple rate cover.

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23 Jun 2018
05:21:41pm
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I've lived my whole life in WNY - I had to look up these towns as I was not familiar with, I live about 45 minutes away from them. I guess they are so tiny I have never met anyone from them or had the opportunity to drive through them, I was actually a few minutes south of Alabama yesterday driving to the Buffalo suburbs to do some shopping/dinner.

I do think the covers are a great find.

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23 Jun 2018
07:58:20pm
re: Alabama is in New York

Decades ago, there was (and perhaps there still is) a largish mostly-burgers diner in Dallas where the customers sat surrounded by a ring of plain, large clocks.

They were identical, and were all mounted high up on the wall.

Below each clock was a neat sign bearing the name of a city.

All of the major cities of the world were represented.

And all of the clocks were set to the same time.

Let's see if you can get the joke:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Texas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow,_Texas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin,_Texas

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey (who thinks that state-names-as-town-names-cancels would make a terrific topical cover collection)

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24 Jun 2018
09:34:39am
re: Alabama is in New York

Thank you everyone for the kind words and adding to this thread. I see how you can look up a DPO now. I will put both of these covers in my DPO binder.

ikeyPikey, such a topical cover collection would be possible, as I could drive up to Nevada, over to Wyoming, and then down to Washington...heck I could even drive to Norway and Jamaica, and never leave my home state of Iowa!

Think about it in your state,
Linus

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24 Jun 2018
11:21:09pm
re: Alabama is in New York

Texas and Mexico are in New York as well (Oswego County).

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It is a short distance from Athens where I had taken my grandsons a few years ago. I told them that I was taking them to New York. They were excited to go to the "big" city that was so far away. They were surprised when we arrived in about 20 minutes, and that there were just the fire station, a church, and a few houses.

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25 Jun 2018
01:45:35am
re: Alabama is in New York

Bowling Green and Venice are actually in Florida.

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PaulMitchell

25 Jun 2018
01:00:59pm
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Moscow is in Idaho.

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25 Jun 2018
03:40:38pm
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Intercourse is in Pennsylvania

Sorry- wrong thread Laughing

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26 Jun 2018
11:19:16pm
re: Alabama is in New York

Verona Ontario is where I live.
Moscow Ontario is 10 miles down the road.
Odessa Ontario is 12 miles from Moscow.

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27 Jun 2018
05:16:26pm
re: Alabama is in New York

Pitcairn is in PA!

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Tom in Exton, PA

27 Jun 2018
08:16:17pm

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From the New Jersey Collection:


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New York is in New Jersey, West New York that is!

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and Washington... a couple different towns are in New Jersey too

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27 Jun 2018
08:48:23pm

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and if we're playing Ferrin Cities...

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Bergen, Norway
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Birmingham, England
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Florence, Italy
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German Valley and a bonus cancel from Chester, England
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Lebanon
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New Brunswick, Canada
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New Egypt
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New Lisbon, Portugal
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Rio Grande
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Sidney, Australia (okay I know it's Sydney!)

And that's just what I had handy scans of...

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27 Jun 2018
09:33:21pm
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Yo Tom "New" whatever doesn't count. Rolling On The Floor Laughing

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27 Jun 2018
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Oh yea Ernie? How about "West" Berlin??
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28 Jun 2018
12:30:05am
re: Alabama is in New York

I was in Holland (Texas) today.

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28 Jun 2018
08:35:13pm
re: Alabama is in New York

If you don't like West Berlin, here is plain Berlin (Ontario):

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And another world "capital", Brussels (Ontario):

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Moscow (Ontario):

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and, not to forget London (Ontario):

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13 Jul 2018
08:09:19pm
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18 Jul 2018
08:06:01pm
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There's a Dublin NH and a Wyoming Michigan.

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22 Jun 2019
08:43:52pm
re: Alabama is in New York

I found this cover in a box of covers I have had for many years. Today I learned that Louisiana is in Missouri.

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24 Jun 2019
11:30:25am
re: Alabama is in New York

Conversely Washington and Toronto are in County Durham.
Boston is in Lincolnshire.
Calgary (Sands) is on the Island of Mull.
Whitby is in North Yorkshire.
Halifax is in West Yorkshire.

Newport ( not News )is in Cornwall, or East Yorkshire, or Essex, or Gloucestershire, or Highland, or Isle of Wight, or Newport (County), or Pembrokeshire or Wrekin, not forgetting Newport-on-Tay in Fife or Newport Pagnell in Milton Keynes !!

......and so on and so on.

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Tom in Exton, PA

29 Jun 2019
07:33:44pm

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And Las Vegas in New Mexico!

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29 Jun 2019
09:33:26pm
re: Alabama is in New York

And, while I'm looking for material to collect, Des Moines in is New Mexico. And Washington state. Farley is also in New Mexico, and Iowa. Farley, NM is my ideal town to live in.

-Paul, from rural Reading. PA, that is. (channeling John Prine).

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04 Jul 2019
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And Guam is in Pennsylvania!

A funny thing... this morning my eBay search for GUAM (1903,1904,1905,1906,1907,1908,1909) in USA Covers sent me an email with a hit! I click on it and there's the above cover. It ahd a "Buy It Now" of something like $11 which would have been a screaming bargain for a Guam (US possession) cover! Then I looked twice...

Note that GUAM on my Scott 300 has been the most elusive of the US possessions!

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23 Jun 2018
09:22:38am

I recently found these 2 covers at the local flea market. I learned that Alabama is the name of a small town in New York. I think the South Alabama cover is a DPO. Can anyone confirm that?

Linus

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23 Jun 2018
11:22:16am

re: Alabama is in New York

The Alabama post office was discontinued October 12, 2002.

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pigdoc

23 Jun 2018
12:31:05pm

re: Alabama is in New York

Both Alabama and South Alabama are in Genessee county, NY, up near Lake Ontario.
Looking at a map, South Alabama is just southeast of Alabama. Makes sense, I guess...

Jim Forte's site lists South Alabama PO as being in operation 1850-1904. And, it lists Alabama as being commissioned in 1828.

Towns Named After States.
Hmmm, that could be an interesting collecting area...

Speaking of old POs,
I'm already attracted to ghost towns named after big towns as a cover collecting area. Like Nashville, Iowa, a few miles west of where I grew up....

The history of these teeny, tiny POs can be very intriguing. Often, there's a tremendous amount of hegemony among postmasters. One of the DPOs I collect is Thompson, Delaware. Yes, every postmaster this (ghost) town ever had was a Thompson! I'm still trying to determine if the PO and the train station shared a building, or even a window to sell tickets or stamps as the need arose...After the RR went Tango Uniform in 1916, the town withered.

Speaking of postmasters, for the POs that had a designated salary for the postmaster, these were highly political appointments in the 19th century. In hotly contested towns, the PM's political party would change with the President's.

Love DPOs!
-Paul

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23 Jun 2018
01:13:03pm

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That's a lovely triple rate cover.

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23 Jun 2018
05:21:41pm

re: Alabama is in New York

I've lived my whole life in WNY - I had to look up these towns as I was not familiar with, I live about 45 minutes away from them. I guess they are so tiny I have never met anyone from them or had the opportunity to drive through them, I was actually a few minutes south of Alabama yesterday driving to the Buffalo suburbs to do some shopping/dinner.

I do think the covers are a great find.

Josh

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23 Jun 2018
07:58:20pm

re: Alabama is in New York

Decades ago, there was (and perhaps there still is) a largish mostly-burgers diner in Dallas where the customers sat surrounded by a ring of plain, large clocks.

They were identical, and were all mounted high up on the wall.

Below each clock was a neat sign bearing the name of a city.

All of the major cities of the world were represented.

And all of the clocks were set to the same time.

Let's see if you can get the joke:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Texas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow,_Texas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin,_Texas

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey (who thinks that state-names-as-town-names-cancels would make a terrific topical cover collection)

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24 Jun 2018
09:34:39am

re: Alabama is in New York

Thank you everyone for the kind words and adding to this thread. I see how you can look up a DPO now. I will put both of these covers in my DPO binder.

ikeyPikey, such a topical cover collection would be possible, as I could drive up to Nevada, over to Wyoming, and then down to Washington...heck I could even drive to Norway and Jamaica, and never leave my home state of Iowa!

Think about it in your state,
Linus

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24 Jun 2018
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re: Alabama is in New York

Texas and Mexico are in New York as well (Oswego County).

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It is a short distance from Athens where I had taken my grandsons a few years ago. I told them that I was taking them to New York. They were excited to go to the "big" city that was so far away. They were surprised when we arrived in about 20 minutes, and that there were just the fire station, a church, and a few houses.

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25 Jun 2018
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re: Alabama is in New York

Bowling Green and Venice are actually in Florida.

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25 Jun 2018
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Moscow is in Idaho.

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25 Jun 2018
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Intercourse is in Pennsylvania

Sorry- wrong thread Laughing

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re: Alabama is in New York

Verona Ontario is where I live.
Moscow Ontario is 10 miles down the road.
Odessa Ontario is 12 miles from Moscow.

Roy

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re: Alabama is in New York

Pitcairn is in PA!

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Tom in Exton, PA
27 Jun 2018
08:16:17pm

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New York is in New Jersey, West New York that is!

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and Washington... a couple different towns are in New Jersey too

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27 Jun 2018
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and if we're playing Ferrin Cities...

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Bergen, Norway
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Birmingham, England
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Florence, Italy
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German Valley and a bonus cancel from Chester, England
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Lebanon
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New Brunswick, Canada
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New Egypt
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New Lisbon, Portugal
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Rio Grande
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Sidney, Australia (okay I know it's Sydney!)

And that's just what I had handy scans of...

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27 Jun 2018
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Yo Tom "New" whatever doesn't count. Rolling On The Floor Laughing

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27 Jun 2018
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Oh yea Ernie? How about "West" Berlin??
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28 Jun 2018
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re: Alabama is in New York

I was in Holland (Texas) today.

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28 Jun 2018
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re: Alabama is in New York

If you don't like West Berlin, here is plain Berlin (Ontario):

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And another world "capital", Brussels (Ontario):

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Moscow (Ontario):

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and, not to forget London (Ontario):

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13 Jul 2018
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West New York N.J.Image Not Found

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18 Jul 2018
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There's a Dublin NH and a Wyoming Michigan.

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22 Jun 2019
08:43:52pm

re: Alabama is in New York

I found this cover in a box of covers I have had for many years. Today I learned that Louisiana is in Missouri.

Linus

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24 Jun 2019
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re: Alabama is in New York

Conversely Washington and Toronto are in County Durham.
Boston is in Lincolnshire.
Calgary (Sands) is on the Island of Mull.
Whitby is in North Yorkshire.
Halifax is in West Yorkshire.

Newport ( not News )is in Cornwall, or East Yorkshire, or Essex, or Gloucestershire, or Highland, or Isle of Wight, or Newport (County), or Pembrokeshire or Wrekin, not forgetting Newport-on-Tay in Fife or Newport Pagnell in Milton Keynes !!

......and so on and so on.

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And Las Vegas in New Mexico!

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29 Jun 2019
09:33:26pm

re: Alabama is in New York

And, while I'm looking for material to collect, Des Moines in is New Mexico. And Washington state. Farley is also in New Mexico, and Iowa. Farley, NM is my ideal town to live in.

-Paul, from rural Reading. PA, that is. (channeling John Prine).

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And Guam is in Pennsylvania!

A funny thing... this morning my eBay search for GUAM (1903,1904,1905,1906,1907,1908,1909) in USA Covers sent me an email with a hit! I click on it and there's the above cover. It ahd a "Buy It Now" of something like $11 which would have been a screaming bargain for a Guam (US possession) cover! Then I looked twice...

Note that GUAM on my Scott 300 has been the most elusive of the US possessions!

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