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United States/Covers & Postmarks : Handstruck '6' On Cover Jamaica to New York

 

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29 Aug 2018
06:04:57am
Greetings from Scotland

A question for you guys across the pond(or anyone else!!) about this cover which went by steamer from Kingston, Jamaica to New York in 1854.

Rather indistinct Kingston 'Paid' mark and manuscript red '4' chargemark. In addition there is a handstruck '6' which the research notes(not mine) suggest was applied in USA.

Can anyone give some information/background relating to this kind of mark, assuming it was in fact applied in USA?

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02 Sep 2018
07:05:52am
re: Handstruck '6' On Cover Jamaica to New York

Just an update to this.

Further research here suggests the 'USA' suggestion in the research notes may be incorrect and the handstruck '6' may well be a charge for the letter applied in Jamaica of course and not the USA!

Research continues....................

Tom

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02 Sep 2018
09:42:56am
re: Handstruck '6' On Cover Jamaica to New York

Having only a superficial understanding on these markings, I was waiting for someone with more knowledge to weigh in. But, absent that, here goes.

First, I presume that the letter was not sent prepaid, but was sent presuming that the recipient would pay the postage.

The manuscript "4" is the steamer captain's charge for carrying the letter from Jamaica to New York. The "6" indicates the total amount due the recipient, including 2 cents for inland delivery, which would appear to be local, presuming the steamer's destination was New York. And, yes, I would presume the "6" marking was applied in New York.

There is another example from 1856, with analysis at the top of this thread:
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=19302#143045

Tom, I think it would be interesting to discover which vessel carried this cover, based on the dates and ports. Caribbean mail from this era intrigues me!

-Paul




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02 Sep 2018
10:14:58am
re: Handstruck '6' On Cover Jamaica to New York

Hi Paul

Appreciate you taking time to respond.

I find it a fascinating cover - especially since it is totally outwith my areas of interest! The original owner was, I know, a Jamaica postal history collector - alas no longer with us so cannot ask about the brief note which he had written relating to the cover which says the '6' was applied in the USA.

The current owner(not a stamp collector) has asked if I will sell it on Ebay for her - having sold loads of stuff for her on that platform in the past.

I think I may just list it there with scans etc and leave it to the experts to work it out!

Tom

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29 Aug 2018
06:04:57am

Greetings from Scotland

A question for you guys across the pond(or anyone else!!) about this cover which went by steamer from Kingston, Jamaica to New York in 1854.

Rather indistinct Kingston 'Paid' mark and manuscript red '4' chargemark. In addition there is a handstruck '6' which the research notes(not mine) suggest was applied in USA.

Can anyone give some information/background relating to this kind of mark, assuming it was in fact applied in USA?

TomImage Not Found

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02 Sep 2018
07:05:52am

re: Handstruck '6' On Cover Jamaica to New York

Just an update to this.

Further research here suggests the 'USA' suggestion in the research notes may be incorrect and the handstruck '6' may well be a charge for the letter applied in Jamaica of course and not the USA!

Research continues....................

Tom

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pigdoc

02 Sep 2018
09:42:56am

re: Handstruck '6' On Cover Jamaica to New York

Having only a superficial understanding on these markings, I was waiting for someone with more knowledge to weigh in. But, absent that, here goes.

First, I presume that the letter was not sent prepaid, but was sent presuming that the recipient would pay the postage.

The manuscript "4" is the steamer captain's charge for carrying the letter from Jamaica to New York. The "6" indicates the total amount due the recipient, including 2 cents for inland delivery, which would appear to be local, presuming the steamer's destination was New York. And, yes, I would presume the "6" marking was applied in New York.

There is another example from 1856, with analysis at the top of this thread:
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=19302#143045

Tom, I think it would be interesting to discover which vessel carried this cover, based on the dates and ports. Caribbean mail from this era intrigues me!

-Paul




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02 Sep 2018
10:14:58am

re: Handstruck '6' On Cover Jamaica to New York

Hi Paul

Appreciate you taking time to respond.

I find it a fascinating cover - especially since it is totally outwith my areas of interest! The original owner was, I know, a Jamaica postal history collector - alas no longer with us so cannot ask about the brief note which he had written relating to the cover which says the '6' was applied in the USA.

The current owner(not a stamp collector) has asked if I will sell it on Ebay for her - having sold loads of stuff for her on that platform in the past.

I think I may just list it there with scans etc and leave it to the experts to work it out!

Tom

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