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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Suggestion on sending stamps and FDCs abroad

 

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virgilp

19 Sep 2018
01:42:22pm
If I want to stay on "the legal side of the road", from your knowledge, what is required to do when I want to send to a country in Europe:
1. Stamps with a value of few hundreds of Dollars and weight more that 2-3 oz and not to use registration;
2. FDCs which will require an oversize envelope and weight of 3-4 oz.
In any case the real value of the contents is $200-400.

What forms I need to fill and what would be the type of postage to use: letter, package or something else?
I did see some previous discussions, but I want to know what is the legal way and the cost of mailing!
Thanks, Virgil

PS. Sometimes problem is considering the custom declared value. How to evaluate foreign stamps? How to consider FDCs when all stamps are used? Cam I send them as "Printed Matter"?
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michael78651
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19 Sep 2018
04:32:06pm
re: Suggestion on sending stamps and FDCs abroad

The minimum service you can use is First Class International Parcel. You have to use the customs form CN-22 (small one is fine if your shipment isn't of a high value; over $400 and you have to use the larger customs form). The declared value of the items is the sale price, NOT the catalog value. Include a copy of the invoice/packing slip inside the package.

You can complete the customs forms online at the USPS website, and pay the postage at the same time. You'll print out the shipping label with pre-paid postage and attach it to your package.

Registered mail, which does not include insurance, is expensive and is at your choice. Sometimes you can buy insurance without using registered mail (or get both) depending on which country the package is going.

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virgilp

20 Sep 2018
09:36:54am
re: Suggestion on sending stamps and FDCs abroad

If I intend to ship the letter (package) for exchange or declare the content as a gift, how this will work? In such a case, what I should show on invoice/packing slip?

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michael78651
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20 Sep 2018
11:47:00am
re: Suggestion on sending stamps and FDCs abroad

If you sold the items, it is not a gift. It is merchandise. The invoice is the invoice. Print it out. No need to do anything else with it, except put it in the package.

If you are trading stamps with someone else, it is still merchandise. Base the value of what you are sending to trade using a fair market value based on how you and your trading partner are valuing the trade.

Don't try to circumvent the process to make it easier for the trading partner to try to, in particular, avoid paying duties. If the receiving country officials inspect your package and find that the contents are improperly declared, your trading partner could get into trouble (smuggling), and the package you sent could be confiscated. The end result is that you won't get the stamps back, and you won't get the stamps your partner was supposed to send you in exchange.

This is not difficult. Don't try to over-think things. Don't listen to requests to not include a customs form, or to misidentify the contents of the packages. If your trading partner wants you to do this sort of stuff, then they are breaking the law, and asking you to do so as well. I would move on and find someone else to trade with.

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virgilp

20 Sep 2018
07:27:41pm
re: Suggestion on sending stamps and FDCs abroad

Clear, thank you. Virgil

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virgilp

19 Sep 2018
01:42:22pm

If I want to stay on "the legal side of the road", from your knowledge, what is required to do when I want to send to a country in Europe:
1. Stamps with a value of few hundreds of Dollars and weight more that 2-3 oz and not to use registration;
2. FDCs which will require an oversize envelope and weight of 3-4 oz.
In any case the real value of the contents is $200-400.

What forms I need to fill and what would be the type of postage to use: letter, package or something else?
I did see some previous discussions, but I want to know what is the legal way and the cost of mailing!
Thanks, Virgil

PS. Sometimes problem is considering the custom declared value. How to evaluate foreign stamps? How to consider FDCs when all stamps are used? Cam I send them as "Printed Matter"?

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michael78651

19 Sep 2018
04:32:06pm

re: Suggestion on sending stamps and FDCs abroad

The minimum service you can use is First Class International Parcel. You have to use the customs form CN-22 (small one is fine if your shipment isn't of a high value; over $400 and you have to use the larger customs form). The declared value of the items is the sale price, NOT the catalog value. Include a copy of the invoice/packing slip inside the package.

You can complete the customs forms online at the USPS website, and pay the postage at the same time. You'll print out the shipping label with pre-paid postage and attach it to your package.

Registered mail, which does not include insurance, is expensive and is at your choice. Sometimes you can buy insurance without using registered mail (or get both) depending on which country the package is going.

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virgilp

20 Sep 2018
09:36:54am

re: Suggestion on sending stamps and FDCs abroad

If I intend to ship the letter (package) for exchange or declare the content as a gift, how this will work? In such a case, what I should show on invoice/packing slip?

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michael78651

20 Sep 2018
11:47:00am

re: Suggestion on sending stamps and FDCs abroad

If you sold the items, it is not a gift. It is merchandise. The invoice is the invoice. Print it out. No need to do anything else with it, except put it in the package.

If you are trading stamps with someone else, it is still merchandise. Base the value of what you are sending to trade using a fair market value based on how you and your trading partner are valuing the trade.

Don't try to circumvent the process to make it easier for the trading partner to try to, in particular, avoid paying duties. If the receiving country officials inspect your package and find that the contents are improperly declared, your trading partner could get into trouble (smuggling), and the package you sent could be confiscated. The end result is that you won't get the stamps back, and you won't get the stamps your partner was supposed to send you in exchange.

This is not difficult. Don't try to over-think things. Don't listen to requests to not include a customs form, or to misidentify the contents of the packages. If your trading partner wants you to do this sort of stuff, then they are breaking the law, and asking you to do so as well. I would move on and find someone else to trade with.

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virgilp

20 Sep 2018
07:27:41pm

re: Suggestion on sending stamps and FDCs abroad

Clear, thank you. Virgil

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