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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Variant of Scott #303

 

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nranderson
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09 Jan 2019
05:28:59pm
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I am new to the hobby and my information is not complete in a lot of categories....this is one. In the information I have I do not show this partial perf example?
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09 Jan 2019
05:33:46pm
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No, it is called a 'straight edge' and is typically valued lowed then a fully perforated stamp. For an explanation of straight edge stamp see this article
http://stampsmarter.com/learning/ID_RareLines.html

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09 Jan 2019
05:40:50pm
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Thank You that clearly explains it. Although you would think a higher value would be appropriate due to fewer in the population? I'm not even close to understanding yet!

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09 Jan 2019
05:44:42pm
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Nelson, you're right about the straight edges being fewer. Some people collect examples with straight edges from every side i.e. top, right, left and bottom. A REALLY rare find is an example with two straight edges (corner copy).

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09 Jan 2019
05:49:52pm
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"Although you would think a higher value would be appropriate due to fewer in the population? "



A common misconception, that ignores the fact that the "value equation" has two parts: Supply AND demand.

Very few collectors like these straight-edge stamps (although I can name exceptions), resulting in much less demand than there is supply, ergo they tend to sell only at deep discounts to regular copies, with the lower price effectively raising the demand by attracting bargain hunters who are not as picky.

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09 Jan 2019
06:06:41pm
re: Variant of Scott #303

As others have mentioned, demand is critically important. Interest in 'straight edges' has never been strong although there is a small following. I think the following was a bit bigger in 1950s and there were a few dealers who offered them as shown in the following images.
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But since it is a less common collecting area, putting a collection together can be fun, inexpensive, and rewarding. here is a positional re-assembly.
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Tom in Exton, PA

11 Jan 2019
12:33:45pm

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I have some of the straight edges in my collection, off hand I remember my 10 Cent Colombian is one. I don't mind them since they are post office original and as said, they were produced in numbers lesser than the four perf sided versions.

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And Don, don't get me started collecting those! I already have a bunch of these 4 corner sets in my collection. Back when I serviced FDCs I'd save a set of these!

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11 Jan 2019
07:11:16pm
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DON, Nice post, I have never seen that info before. It's to bad that the values for "normal" fully perforated stamps was not given for comparison. It would be nice to know the year of that publication then having a member who has a catalog of that vintage to show those values.
Another thing to consider is that higher value stamps with SE's are constantly diminishing
as they are being falsely perfed by the unscrupulous. I've known dealers who believed that natural straight edge stamps will increase in value.

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11 Jan 2019
08:41:17pm
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Good Evening Mitch
Hope you had a great holiday season and are continuing to mend nicely.

You make some good points. I have always found that market demand is a crazy thing; it is such a powerful force. And human greedy and unethical behavior certainly follows the marketplace. So if demand for straight edges jumped up, we would have to assume that fully perforated stamps would soon be scissored into straight edges (complete with drawn in lines). Yikes, we can’t win! Big Grin
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Stampme

11 Jan 2019
09:34:35pm
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If I'm not mistaken, my USA Michel catalog prices straight edge higher than perforated examples.
Bruce

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12 Jan 2019
05:17:23pm
re: Variant of Scott #303

I think the following was a bit bigger in 1950s and there were a few dealers who offered them as shown in the following images.

What were those booklet pages out of? And can someone tell me how to quote a comment?

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12 Jan 2019
06:00:38pm
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"What were those booklet pages out of? And can someone tell me how to quote a comment?"



That page was out of a dealer mailer. See below for how to wrap lines with the 'quote tag' to make a quote

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09 Jan 2019
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I am new to the hobby and my information is not complete in a lot of categories....this is one. In the information I have I do not show this partial perf example?

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09 Jan 2019
05:33:46pm

re: Variant of Scott #303

No, it is called a 'straight edge' and is typically valued lowed then a fully perforated stamp. For an explanation of straight edge stamp see this article
http://stampsmarter.com/learning/ID_RareLines.html

Don

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09 Jan 2019
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Thank You that clearly explains it. Although you would think a higher value would be appropriate due to fewer in the population? I'm not even close to understanding yet!

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ernieinjax

09 Jan 2019
05:44:42pm

re: Variant of Scott #303

Nelson, you're right about the straight edges being fewer. Some people collect examples with straight edges from every side i.e. top, right, left and bottom. A REALLY rare find is an example with two straight edges (corner copy).

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09 Jan 2019
05:49:52pm

re: Variant of Scott #303

"Although you would think a higher value would be appropriate due to fewer in the population? "



A common misconception, that ignores the fact that the "value equation" has two parts: Supply AND demand.

Very few collectors like these straight-edge stamps (although I can name exceptions), resulting in much less demand than there is supply, ergo they tend to sell only at deep discounts to regular copies, with the lower price effectively raising the demand by attracting bargain hunters who are not as picky.

Roy
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09 Jan 2019
06:06:41pm

re: Variant of Scott #303

As others have mentioned, demand is critically important. Interest in 'straight edges' has never been strong although there is a small following. I think the following was a bit bigger in 1950s and there were a few dealers who offered them as shown in the following images.
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But since it is a less common collecting area, putting a collection together can be fun, inexpensive, and rewarding. here is a positional re-assembly.
Image Not Found


Don

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Tom in Exton, PA
11 Jan 2019
12:33:45pm

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re: Variant of Scott #303

I have some of the straight edges in my collection, off hand I remember my 10 Cent Colombian is one. I don't mind them since they are post office original and as said, they were produced in numbers lesser than the four perf sided versions.

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And Don, don't get me started collecting those! I already have a bunch of these 4 corner sets in my collection. Back when I serviced FDCs I'd save a set of these!

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11 Jan 2019
07:11:16pm

re: Variant of Scott #303

DON, Nice post, I have never seen that info before. It's to bad that the values for "normal" fully perforated stamps was not given for comparison. It would be nice to know the year of that publication then having a member who has a catalog of that vintage to show those values.
Another thing to consider is that higher value stamps with SE's are constantly diminishing
as they are being falsely perfed by the unscrupulous. I've known dealers who believed that natural straight edge stamps will increase in value.

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11 Jan 2019
08:41:17pm

re: Variant of Scott #303

Good Evening Mitch
Hope you had a great holiday season and are continuing to mend nicely.

You make some good points. I have always found that market demand is a crazy thing; it is such a powerful force. And human greedy and unethical behavior certainly follows the marketplace. So if demand for straight edges jumped up, we would have to assume that fully perforated stamps would soon be scissored into straight edges (complete with drawn in lines). Yikes, we can’t win! Big Grin
Don

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Stampme

11 Jan 2019
09:34:35pm

re: Variant of Scott #303

If I'm not mistaken, my USA Michel catalog prices straight edge higher than perforated examples.
Bruce

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nranderson

12 Jan 2019
05:17:23pm

re: Variant of Scott #303

I think the following was a bit bigger in 1950s and there were a few dealers who offered them as shown in the following images.

What were those booklet pages out of? And can someone tell me how to quote a comment?

Thanks

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12 Jan 2019
06:00:38pm

re: Variant of Scott #303

"What were those booklet pages out of? And can someone tell me how to quote a comment?"



That page was out of a dealer mailer. See below for how to wrap lines with the 'quote tag' to make a quote

Don

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