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Oceania/Australia : red line?

 

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Pooh

30 Apr 2019
07:55:24pm
Image Not FoundCould someone please tell me what the red line is coming out of the top right hand corner is please

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Pooh

30 Apr 2019
08:05:19pm
re: red line?

I have also just notice there is abit more red lines between the 2 border lines is this normal??

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30 Apr 2019
10:42:26pm
re: red line?

There are two types, Type A and Type B, Type A is a normal printing and Type B has the small extension line jutting out from the inside border on the bottom left as shown in the image, does yours have a line in the bottom left?

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Pooh

01 May 2019
12:13:03am
re: red line?

I'm in town and can't do this until the weekend. Would you know as to why the little line is there?? There is also a little line that goes from the middle A of Australia to the outside border, there is also some marks between the 2 borders at the top Thankyou

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01 May 2019
12:59:26am
re: red line?

Hi Pooh

I’m quite confident your stamp is a type B.

Rob

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01 May 2019
04:25:36am
re: red line?

Hi Rob

You have done it again,

Now you have side tracked me, I will be looking whether my copies are type A or B

Regards

Horamakhet

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01 May 2019
10:11:56am
re: red line?

Hi Horamakhet

I have a few more little surprises to keep you on your toes which I will post soon.

Types A & B is the result of using two roller dies (official numbers 2128 & 2139). Roller 2128 bore two impressions, one of which had the denominations erased for preparation of the 3d and 9d dies. Since the 3d and 9d are both Type A, it is almost certain that roller 2128 had the Type A 2d impression, and roller 2139 had the Type B impression.

Archival records indicate that Type A was used to lay down one copper plate and the steel master plate from which four nickel electroplates were derived. Type B was used to lay down the other three copper plates.

Rob

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Pooh

01 May 2019
07:20:43pm
re: red line?

Hello Rob and everyone, I'm confuse could you please give me some more information if you can?? Like how did the line get there? I'm really confused with Type B and Type A as this sounds medicalHappy

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01 May 2019
08:13:43pm
re: red line?

Hi Pooh

Simply there are two plates used, one original and the other altered. Instead of creating three new plates, more than one plate is used during the printing process, the printer removed a few plates and had the 2d denomination removed (burnished) so the higher denominations can be added.

When a plate is burnished some faults will occur, the original (Plate A) does not have the lines as the plates were not altered.

Rob

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Pooh

01 May 2019
08:29:05pm
re: red line?

I will put this aside with the other stamps Is type B common?? This does sound medical

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01 May 2019
09:44:29pm
re: red line?

Yes, both are common, they have the same catalogue value of $1.00 used. Together 96,000,000 were printed, it is not known which has the lower printing but both do run into the tens of millions.

Rob

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Pooh

30 Apr 2019
07:55:24pm

Image Not FoundCould someone please tell me what the red line is coming out of the top right hand corner is please

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Pooh

30 Apr 2019
08:05:19pm

re: red line?

I have also just notice there is abit more red lines between the 2 border lines is this normal??

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Lochanbar Station

Member ACCC (Australian Commonwealth Collectors Club of NSW)
30 Apr 2019
10:42:26pm

re: red line?

There are two types, Type A and Type B, Type A is a normal printing and Type B has the small extension line jutting out from the inside border on the bottom left as shown in the image, does yours have a line in the bottom left?

Image Not Found

Rob

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Pooh

01 May 2019
12:13:03am

re: red line?

I'm in town and can't do this until the weekend. Would you know as to why the little line is there?? There is also a little line that goes from the middle A of Australia to the outside border, there is also some marks between the 2 borders at the top Thankyou

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Lochanbar Station

Member ACCC (Australian Commonwealth Collectors Club of NSW)
01 May 2019
12:59:26am

re: red line?

Hi Pooh

I’m quite confident your stamp is a type B.

Rob

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Horamakhet

01 May 2019
04:25:36am

re: red line?

Hi Rob

You have done it again,

Now you have side tracked me, I will be looking whether my copies are type A or B

Regards

Horamakhet

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Member ACCC (Australian Commonwealth Collectors Club of NSW)
01 May 2019
10:11:56am

re: red line?

Hi Horamakhet

I have a few more little surprises to keep you on your toes which I will post soon.

Types A & B is the result of using two roller dies (official numbers 2128 & 2139). Roller 2128 bore two impressions, one of which had the denominations erased for preparation of the 3d and 9d dies. Since the 3d and 9d are both Type A, it is almost certain that roller 2128 had the Type A 2d impression, and roller 2139 had the Type B impression.

Archival records indicate that Type A was used to lay down one copper plate and the steel master plate from which four nickel electroplates were derived. Type B was used to lay down the other three copper plates.

Rob

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"Specialised Collector of Australian Pre-Decimal & Decimal Stamps"
Pooh

01 May 2019
07:20:43pm

re: red line?

Hello Rob and everyone, I'm confuse could you please give me some more information if you can?? Like how did the line get there? I'm really confused with Type B and Type A as this sounds medicalHappy

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Lochanbar Station

Member ACCC (Australian Commonwealth Collectors Club of NSW)
01 May 2019
08:13:43pm

re: red line?

Hi Pooh

Simply there are two plates used, one original and the other altered. Instead of creating three new plates, more than one plate is used during the printing process, the printer removed a few plates and had the 2d denomination removed (burnished) so the higher denominations can be added.

When a plate is burnished some faults will occur, the original (Plate A) does not have the lines as the plates were not altered.

Rob

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"Specialised Collector of Australian Pre-Decimal & Decimal Stamps"
Pooh

01 May 2019
08:29:05pm

re: red line?

I will put this aside with the other stamps Is type B common?? This does sound medical

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Lochanbar Station

Member ACCC (Australian Commonwealth Collectors Club of NSW)
01 May 2019
09:44:29pm

re: red line?

Yes, both are common, they have the same catalogue value of $1.00 used. Together 96,000,000 were printed, it is not known which has the lower printing but both do run into the tens of millions.

Rob

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