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Zhai

09 Jun 2019
08:56:25pm
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Calstamp

09 Jun 2019
09:23:44pm
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In English, translates to “sample”.

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Zhai

09 Jun 2019
09:54:56pm
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thank you for your information,
"sample poste" in English, I do not understand.
what function is this Echantillins postmark?
thank all.

Zhai

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10 Jun 2019
07:45:49am
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Hello Zhai,

It would be interesting to see the complete cover or post card.

I have seen other examples of this marking online on items sent to a large French shop and I wonder if this is a marking applied by the shop to indicate that free sample products should be sent.

However, I've not seen a complete postcard to be able to read the message

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Zhai

10 Jun 2019
08:25:10pm
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thank you, please check new pictures.
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10 Jun 2019
09:20:58pm
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Here is the image the right way up and enlarged,

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looks like a request for a catalogue of some description. Something to do with toys?

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Zhai

11 Jun 2019
12:59:04am
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Thank two friends,
the former picture is no right,
I change the right picture.

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Calstamp

11 Jun 2019
08:34:34am
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Sheepshanks...

So a postcard (with Postage Due) from a buyer in Belgium to a large store in Paris requesting a catalogue of toys and some other product? Can’t make out the last word. Jouets et d’ehennes?

The handwriting is tough. As is the spelling.

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11 Jun 2019
10:04:49am
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From Google translate catalogue of garden toys. (ornaments?)
catalogue de jouets a é herres

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11 Jun 2019
10:25:24am

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Étrennes - new year's gifts. Fits the date this card was sent.

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11 Jun 2019
01:43:40pm
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Thanks Jansimon, that fits better. The last word was hard to decipher, especially for an Englishman whose schoolboy French was long ago.

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Zhai

11 Jun 2019
11:39:37pm
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thank all,
I want to know what function this "ECHANTILLONS POSTE" is ,thanks again.

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12 Jun 2019
08:40:42am

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In my opinion the échantillons poste cancel is not a postal cancel, but one that was placed by someone at the office of the store so that they could see the requested sample (catalogue in this case) had been sent to the customer. Kind of like how things were done before computers and customer relationship management software were invented.

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Zhai

12 Jun 2019
08:49:19am
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this is one of Post business, I think it was a postal postmark. but I donot know what function.
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12 Jun 2019
11:51:17am
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Hi Zhai,
This was a hard one to figure out as the handwriting isn’t the best. But I think I got there in the end.
It was obviously sent from Belgium to Paris. The address appears to be:
Grand Magasins Louvre, Paris
The Louvre Department Store, Paris.

The senders address in the top right hand corner is:
Château Fuley, Arquennes

The message reads:
Voulez m’envoyez vos catalogues de jouets et d’ êherres.
Would you send me your catalogues of toys and of flowers.

It was difficult to work out the last word here as the accent, a circonflexe, looks more like a grave accent, and the ‘r’s like ‘n’s.

It Is signed: Dion du Chapois
This is Adolphe François Camille, Baron Chapois, born 1831 died 1914. He was an industrialist and politician. Probably why he couldn’t be bothered to check the postage to France, hence the postage due. You will also notice the absence of any s'il vous plaît.

As for the ECHANTILLONS POSTE stamp, I believe that Jansimon is right in that it is a stamp applied at the store to show that the catalogues had been sent. It is dated four days after the original Belgian franking.

Kim

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12 Jun 2019
12:38:03pm

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Wonderful work. But I do not agree with your transcription of "étrennes". Never saw the other word used for flowers. However, I found the ultimate proof in a French archive: a copy of the very catalogue requested, albeit 3 years older:
https://bibliotheques-specialisees.paris.fr/ark:/73873/pf0001945877

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12 Jun 2019
01:14:02pm
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ÉTRENNES Is definitely New Years gift
In the early 1900's it was not uncommon for many French families to give gifts on New Years Day and not Christmas
This applies to several other countries notably China where the perfect New Year gift is money in a red envelope.
In Japan it involves many traditions but money in an envelope (not red) is favored for children- Otoshidama

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Zhai

12 Jun 2019
08:42:21pm
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this is another postcard from web.
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12 Jun 2019
08:45:50pm
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I believe this was a postal postmark from Paris post office.

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Zhai

09 Jun 2019
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Calstamp

09 Jun 2019
09:23:44pm

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In English, translates to “sample”.

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Zhai

09 Jun 2019
09:54:56pm

re: ECHANTILLONS POSTE ?

thank you for your information,
"sample poste" in English, I do not understand.
what function is this Echantillins postmark?
thank all.

Zhai

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nigelc

10 Jun 2019
07:45:49am

re: ECHANTILLONS POSTE ?

Hello Zhai,

It would be interesting to see the complete cover or post card.

I have seen other examples of this marking online on items sent to a large French shop and I wonder if this is a marking applied by the shop to indicate that free sample products should be sent.

However, I've not seen a complete postcard to be able to read the message

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Zhai

10 Jun 2019
08:25:10pm

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thank you, please check new pictures.
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sheepshanks

10 Jun 2019
09:20:58pm

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Here is the image the right way up and enlarged,

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looks like a request for a catalogue of some description. Something to do with toys?

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Zhai

11 Jun 2019
12:59:04am

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Thank two friends,
the former picture is no right,
I change the right picture.

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Calstamp

11 Jun 2019
08:34:34am

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Sheepshanks...

So a postcard (with Postage Due) from a buyer in Belgium to a large store in Paris requesting a catalogue of toys and some other product? Can’t make out the last word. Jouets et d’ehennes?

The handwriting is tough. As is the spelling.

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sheepshanks

11 Jun 2019
10:04:49am

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From Google translate catalogue of garden toys. (ornaments?)
catalogue de jouets a é herres

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Jansimon

11 Jun 2019
10:25:24am

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Étrennes - new year's gifts. Fits the date this card was sent.

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11 Jun 2019
01:43:40pm

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Thanks Jansimon, that fits better. The last word was hard to decipher, especially for an Englishman whose schoolboy French was long ago.

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Zhai

11 Jun 2019
11:39:37pm

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thank all,
I want to know what function this "ECHANTILLONS POSTE" is ,thanks again.

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Jansimon

12 Jun 2019
08:40:42am

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In my opinion the échantillons poste cancel is not a postal cancel, but one that was placed by someone at the office of the store so that they could see the requested sample (catalogue in this case) had been sent to the customer. Kind of like how things were done before computers and customer relationship management software were invented.

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Zhai

12 Jun 2019
08:49:19am

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this is one of Post business, I think it was a postal postmark. but I donot know what function.
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12 Jun 2019
11:51:17am

re: ECHANTILLONS POSTE ?

Hi Zhai,
This was a hard one to figure out as the handwriting isn’t the best. But I think I got there in the end.
It was obviously sent from Belgium to Paris. The address appears to be:
Grand Magasins Louvre, Paris
The Louvre Department Store, Paris.

The senders address in the top right hand corner is:
Château Fuley, Arquennes

The message reads:
Voulez m’envoyez vos catalogues de jouets et d’ êherres.
Would you send me your catalogues of toys and of flowers.

It was difficult to work out the last word here as the accent, a circonflexe, looks more like a grave accent, and the ‘r’s like ‘n’s.

It Is signed: Dion du Chapois
This is Adolphe François Camille, Baron Chapois, born 1831 died 1914. He was an industrialist and politician. Probably why he couldn’t be bothered to check the postage to France, hence the postage due. You will also notice the absence of any s'il vous plaît.

As for the ECHANTILLONS POSTE stamp, I believe that Jansimon is right in that it is a stamp applied at the store to show that the catalogues had been sent. It is dated four days after the original Belgian franking.

Kim

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Jansimon

12 Jun 2019
12:38:03pm

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Wonderful work. But I do not agree with your transcription of "étrennes". Never saw the other word used for flowers. However, I found the ultimate proof in a French archive: a copy of the very catalogue requested, albeit 3 years older:
https://bibliotheques-specialisees.paris.fr/ark:/73873/pf0001945877

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SForgCa

12 Jun 2019
01:14:02pm

re: ECHANTILLONS POSTE ?

ÉTRENNES Is definitely New Years gift
In the early 1900's it was not uncommon for many French families to give gifts on New Years Day and not Christmas
This applies to several other countries notably China where the perfect New Year gift is money in a red envelope.
In Japan it involves many traditions but money in an envelope (not red) is favored for children- Otoshidama

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Zhai

12 Jun 2019
08:42:21pm

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Image Not FoundThank all friends!
this is another postcard from web.
Image Not Found

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Zhai

12 Jun 2019
08:45:50pm

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I believe this was a postal postmark from Paris post office.

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