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08 Aug 2019
10:34:28pm
Not sure if this is the right section to post this, but does anyone know if Durland will be publishing a 2020 catalog? Seems they issue a new one every four years or so.

And if you have a prior edition, is it worth owning?

Thanks!
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08 Aug 2019
11:51:53pm
re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

It's a MUST HAVE for my library, but I don't need updated volumes since my plate number needs ended about 10 years ago.

Highly recommended!

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09 Aug 2019
12:52:23am
re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

I have an older edition of the Durland Catalog. I got it to help identify certain stamps of the same design through their plate number. Can only be one Scott number, if you know the plate number. Makes it quite easy (no measuring, etc.)

It's an interesting catalog, and has some additional information beyond the plate numbers as well. Like Lars, I recommend it too for US stamps.

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09 Aug 2019
10:05:05pm
re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

I have both the current Durland Plate Number Catalogue (I am a contributor to the catalogue) and the Herbert's Plate Number Single Catalogue (from the American Plate Number Single Society (APNSS)).

I am a member of the APNSS. I collect used marginal markings of US stamps from 1976 to 2000. That is the 13-cent to the 33-cent era. As well, I collect used marginal marking of United States Air Mail stamps.

I feel that both catalogues compliment each other.

David Giles
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10 Aug 2019
06:27:45am
re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

David,

I have Durland but not Herbert's. How do they differ?

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10 Aug 2019
08:00:45am
re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

I have Durland 2008;

And I agree with Michael - ID'ing to find Scott numbers is a big help with
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10 Aug 2019
02:41:46pm
re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

I never heard of Herbert's before. I was going to ask the same question as Al.

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10 Aug 2019
03:32:59pm
re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

Herbert's lists and prices plate number singles rather than blocks. I was going to give an example but I seem to have misplaced both of them the last time I cleaned up and put them somewhere where I would know where they were. J

They really do compliment each other and depending on your collecting interests you don’t need the latest edition.

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10 Aug 2019
03:57:01pm
re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

Stamp Smarter has virtual every plate block number (over 57,000) in an online, free database. (The only plate numbers missing are the very deep back of book.) It also supports a ‘reverse plate block number lookup’ which a a handy tool for finding the catalog number if your have a plate block in hand (can’t do this with a hardcopy catalog).
http://stampsmarter.com/features/PlateBlockHome.html
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11 Aug 2019
12:02:37am
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"Herbert's lists and prices plate number singles rather than blocks. I was going to give an example but I seem to have misplaced both of them the last time I cleaned up and put them somewhere where I would know where they were. J

They really do compliment each other and depending on your collecting interests you don’t need the latest edition."



Well said! I have both but I personally only use Hebert's for pricing. Durland is the standard for defining plate numbers of US stamps, but if you are interested in buying plate number singles, (which I use a LOT as mini-certs of authenticity) Hebert provides realistic pricing.

(But it's Hebert, not Herbert).

Lars

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11 Aug 2019
05:55:23am
re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

As I read this the only difference is the pricing of blocks and singles. They would then have the same basic stamp content (plate numbers, etc).

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11 Aug 2019
10:38:02am
re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

So forgive my newbie question. I only collect from before 1977. From the comments, it seems like I can buy an older version for identification purposes and save some money.

But does it also give estimated values? If so, it seems like I would want the most recent issue.

Based on the comments above, I'm definitely buying one. Now I just have to decide whether to get an old one or wait for the (hopefully) 2020 edition.

Thanks for all the good advice!

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11 Aug 2019
10:43:56am
re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

"Stamp Smarter has virtual every plate block number (over 57,000) in an online, free database. (The only plate numbers missing are the very deep back of book.) It also supports a ‘reverse plate block number lookup’ which a a handy tool for finding the catalog number if your have a plate block in hand (can’t do this with a hardcopy catalog).
http://stampsmarter.com/features/PlateBlockHome.ht"



Don, you just became my favorite member! Thanks.

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11 Aug 2019
10:46:11pm
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"As I read this the only difference is the pricing of blocks and singles. They would then have the same basic stamp content (plate numbers, etc)."



No, Durland has MUCH more info. If you only get one source, that's it.
Hebert will work, but it is a very abbreviated work. I only use Hebert to determine the value of plate singles versus plate block of the same issue.

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11 Aug 2019
10:55:10pm
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"So forgive my newbie question. I only collect from before 1977. From the comments, it seems like I can buy an older version for identification purposes and save some money.

But does it also give estimated values? If so, it seems like I would want the most recent issue. "



I tend to buy a new Scott Specialized every 5 years or so to keep up with pricing, so it's not unusual for me to buy a catalog from two years ago to save a BUNCH of money! I also keep the previous 2 or 3 catalogs so I have a Scott Catalog from around the same time-frame as my latest Durland catalog, which may be 10 or 15 years old. Then I can just look at the price for a plate block versus a single during the same timeframe and apply that ratio to my current singles catalog to estimate catalog price for a plate block now. It's not perfect, but meets my needs.

Lars

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12 Aug 2019
08:35:43am
re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

Given that plate number singles are not that widely sold, would not the prices just be rough approximations for scarcity or demand?

For example, how many US Scott 1053 plate number singles are sold each year?

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Plate Blockhead
08 Aug 2019
10:34:28pm

Not sure if this is the right section to post this, but does anyone know if Durland will be publishing a 2020 catalog? Seems they issue a new one every four years or so.

And if you have a prior edition, is it worth owning?

Thanks!

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08 Aug 2019
11:51:53pm

re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

It's a MUST HAVE for my library, but I don't need updated volumes since my plate number needs ended about 10 years ago.

Highly recommended!

Lars

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09 Aug 2019
12:52:23am

re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

I have an older edition of the Durland Catalog. I got it to help identify certain stamps of the same design through their plate number. Can only be one Scott number, if you know the plate number. Makes it quite easy (no measuring, etc.)

It's an interesting catalog, and has some additional information beyond the plate numbers as well. Like Lars, I recommend it too for US stamps.

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09 Aug 2019
10:05:05pm

re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

I have both the current Durland Plate Number Catalogue (I am a contributor to the catalogue) and the Herbert's Plate Number Single Catalogue (from the American Plate Number Single Society (APNSS)).

I am a member of the APNSS. I collect used marginal markings of US stamps from 1976 to 2000. That is the 13-cent to the 33-cent era. As well, I collect used marginal marking of United States Air Mail stamps.

I feel that both catalogues compliment each other.

David Giles
Ottawa, Canada

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10 Aug 2019
06:27:45am

re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

David,

I have Durland but not Herbert's. How do they differ?

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10 Aug 2019
08:00:45am

re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

I have Durland 2008;

And I agree with Michael - ID'ing to find Scott numbers is a big help with
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10 Aug 2019
02:41:46pm

re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

I never heard of Herbert's before. I was going to ask the same question as Al.

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10 Aug 2019
03:32:59pm

re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

Herbert's lists and prices plate number singles rather than blocks. I was going to give an example but I seem to have misplaced both of them the last time I cleaned up and put them somewhere where I would know where they were. J

They really do compliment each other and depending on your collecting interests you don’t need the latest edition.

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10 Aug 2019
03:57:01pm

re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

Stamp Smarter has virtual every plate block number (over 57,000) in an online, free database. (The only plate numbers missing are the very deep back of book.) It also supports a ‘reverse plate block number lookup’ which a a handy tool for finding the catalog number if your have a plate block in hand (can’t do this with a hardcopy catalog).
http://stampsmarter.com/features/PlateBlockHome.html
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APS #220693 ATA#57179
11 Aug 2019
12:02:37am

re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

"Herbert's lists and prices plate number singles rather than blocks. I was going to give an example but I seem to have misplaced both of them the last time I cleaned up and put them somewhere where I would know where they were. J

They really do compliment each other and depending on your collecting interests you don’t need the latest edition."



Well said! I have both but I personally only use Hebert's for pricing. Durland is the standard for defining plate numbers of US stamps, but if you are interested in buying plate number singles, (which I use a LOT as mini-certs of authenticity) Hebert provides realistic pricing.

(But it's Hebert, not Herbert).

Lars

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11 Aug 2019
05:55:23am

re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

As I read this the only difference is the pricing of blocks and singles. They would then have the same basic stamp content (plate numbers, etc).

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11 Aug 2019
10:38:02am

re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

So forgive my newbie question. I only collect from before 1977. From the comments, it seems like I can buy an older version for identification purposes and save some money.

But does it also give estimated values? If so, it seems like I would want the most recent issue.

Based on the comments above, I'm definitely buying one. Now I just have to decide whether to get an old one or wait for the (hopefully) 2020 edition.

Thanks for all the good advice!

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11 Aug 2019
10:43:56am

re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

"Stamp Smarter has virtual every plate block number (over 57,000) in an online, free database. (The only plate numbers missing are the very deep back of book.) It also supports a ‘reverse plate block number lookup’ which a a handy tool for finding the catalog number if your have a plate block in hand (can’t do this with a hardcopy catalog).
http://stampsmarter.com/features/PlateBlockHome.ht"



Don, you just became my favorite member! Thanks.

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11 Aug 2019
10:46:11pm

re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

"As I read this the only difference is the pricing of blocks and singles. They would then have the same basic stamp content (plate numbers, etc)."



No, Durland has MUCH more info. If you only get one source, that's it.
Hebert will work, but it is a very abbreviated work. I only use Hebert to determine the value of plate singles versus plate block of the same issue.

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APS #220693 ATA#57179
11 Aug 2019
10:55:10pm

re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

"So forgive my newbie question. I only collect from before 1977. From the comments, it seems like I can buy an older version for identification purposes and save some money.

But does it also give estimated values? If so, it seems like I would want the most recent issue. "



I tend to buy a new Scott Specialized every 5 years or so to keep up with pricing, so it's not unusual for me to buy a catalog from two years ago to save a BUNCH of money! I also keep the previous 2 or 3 catalogs so I have a Scott Catalog from around the same time-frame as my latest Durland catalog, which may be 10 or 15 years old. Then I can just look at the price for a plate block versus a single during the same timeframe and apply that ratio to my current singles catalog to estimate catalog price for a plate block now. It's not perfect, but meets my needs.

Lars

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12 Aug 2019
08:35:43am

re: Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog

Given that plate number singles are not that widely sold, would not the prices just be rough approximations for scarcity or demand?

For example, how many US Scott 1053 plate number singles are sold each year?

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