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Europe/Great Britain : D.G. Myall collection ...

 

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phos45
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30 Aug 2019
10:51:58am
D.G.Myall collection ...

https://www.grosvenorauctions.com/news/autumn-sales?fbclid=IwAR1lMggWxKfdGbqFVcvQ2K4aFuYpWcfrZjVUESuc_nDWJDXDTijnzbooakQ

hopefully, this will be acquired by postal museum...

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..

31 Aug 2019
05:33:51pm
re: D.G. Myall collection ...

I wonder if they will try to break Doug's collection
into segments ?
Just the thought seems close to Blasphemy.
If they do, I hope some lots will be inexpensive enough
for the average Machinista to afford.

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31 Aug 2019
06:36:35pm
re: D.G. Myall collection ...

certainly worthy of Postal Museum ...

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01 Sep 2019
12:20:24pm
re: D.G. Myall collection ...

"... hopefully, this will be acquired by postal museum ..."



A Master Collector ended a recent lecture/presentation with a few principles of collecting.

One, oft-mentioned, is that condition never gets better, so always buy the best.

Another, less common, is to never donate anything to a museum as it will be lost to philately forever.

Putting the far future aside, let's look at this in terms of the last few decades:

In the past, most items in private hands would come-up for sale in every generation (if not more often), which meant that motivated collectors could acquire that material for their own collections & exhibits.

These sales, necessarily, generated an ocean of auction catalogs - easily available to any collector at nominal cost - with descriptions and, over time, more & better illustrations of all that museum-worthy material.

Lastly, the exhibits 'circuit' meant that the vast majority of collectors would - from time to time, at minimum expense for travel - be able to see, up close, the level of material that makes it into competitive exhibits.

Contrast that with museums, philatelic & otherwise:

Q/ What fraction of their holdings have ever seen the light of day?

Q/ What fraction of collectors can travel to that museum at that magic moment?

In general, scholars & journalists, travelling on someone else's dime, are better-off when there are large, centralized repositories of whatever they need a look at.

But is the hobby?

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey (who is mindful of the coming deluge of comments about archival storage conditions, but who thinks that the hobby is in more danger than it's stamps)
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..

01 Sep 2019
12:34:26pm
re: D.G. Myall collection ...

".... certainly worthy of Postal Museum ...."

Absolutely, as long as it is a museum well financed enough
to put things of interest on easily available display.
But few collectors outside of the museum's home country
can afford the fare and expenses needed to make a really
comprehensive visssssssssssssssit.
In over fifty years of adult collecting I've been to the
Smithsonian Stamp rooms twice and neither time could I
spend enough time to see and study everything,
i;m not sure breaking things up would be that grand,
but at least some of us peons could actually own a piece
of Philatelic History in our hands for a while.

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vinman
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01 Sep 2019
03:34:19pm
re: D.G. Myall collection ...

Donating collections to a museum would be nice but odds are that the collection won't be seen again. How about selling the collection and give the proceeds to the museum of your choice. As Ikey said

"These sales, necessarily, generated an ocean of auction catalogs - easily available to any collector at nominal cost - with descriptions and, over time, more & better illustrations of all that museum-worthy material."


I have a collection of auction catalogs of material I will never see or own but it is nice for reference.

Vince

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01 Sep 2019
03:53:34pm
re: D.G. Myall collection ...

Maybe it could be scanned by the museum or purchaser(s) and then made available to the public via internet for anyone to view. Believe they have done this with the Domesday book and various other historic documents.

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01 Sep 2019
08:12:46pm
re: D.G. Myall collection ...

"... Maybe it could be scanned by the museum or purchaser(s) and then made available to the public via internet for anyone to view ..."



Digitizing the archives would go a long way towards making museum piles accessible, and they are welcome to argue for continued contributions on the grounds that anything digitized at a MajorMuseumDotCom is inherently more accessible than the same material digitized at PlayleDotCom or DenmanDotCom.

I have seen some minimalist museum digitalizations, with barely a title added to an item number and locator code ... what would greatly extend their interpretative/educational reach would be crowdsourced notations.

Come to think of it, if memory serves there is a New York City digital collection (maps? photographs?) that encourages users to add what they know, especially identifying details.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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30 Aug 2019
10:51:58am

D.G.Myall collection ...

https://www.grosvenorauctions.com/news/autumn-sales?fbclid=IwAR1lMggWxKfdGbqFVcvQ2K4aFuYpWcfrZjVUESuc_nDWJDXDTijnzbooakQ

hopefully, this will be acquired by postal museum...

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machinstudygroup.blo ...

Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
31 Aug 2019
05:33:51pm

re: D.G. Myall collection ...

I wonder if they will try to break Doug's collection
into segments ?
Just the thought seems close to Blasphemy.
If they do, I hope some lots will be inexpensive enough
for the average Machinista to afford.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
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phos45

31 Aug 2019
06:36:35pm

re: D.G. Myall collection ...

certainly worthy of Postal Museum ...

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machinstudygroup.blo ...
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ikeyPikey

01 Sep 2019
12:20:24pm

re: D.G. Myall collection ...

"... hopefully, this will be acquired by postal museum ..."



A Master Collector ended a recent lecture/presentation with a few principles of collecting.

One, oft-mentioned, is that condition never gets better, so always buy the best.

Another, less common, is to never donate anything to a museum as it will be lost to philately forever.

Putting the far future aside, let's look at this in terms of the last few decades:

In the past, most items in private hands would come-up for sale in every generation (if not more often), which meant that motivated collectors could acquire that material for their own collections & exhibits.

These sales, necessarily, generated an ocean of auction catalogs - easily available to any collector at nominal cost - with descriptions and, over time, more & better illustrations of all that museum-worthy material.

Lastly, the exhibits 'circuit' meant that the vast majority of collectors would - from time to time, at minimum expense for travel - be able to see, up close, the level of material that makes it into competitive exhibits.

Contrast that with museums, philatelic & otherwise:

Q/ What fraction of their holdings have ever seen the light of day?

Q/ What fraction of collectors can travel to that museum at that magic moment?

In general, scholars & journalists, travelling on someone else's dime, are better-off when there are large, centralized repositories of whatever they need a look at.

But is the hobby?

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey (who is mindful of the coming deluge of comments about archival storage conditions, but who thinks that the hobby is in more danger than it's stamps)
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"I collect stamps today precisely the way I collected stamps when I was ten years old."

Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
01 Sep 2019
12:34:26pm

re: D.G. Myall collection ...

".... certainly worthy of Postal Museum ...."

Absolutely, as long as it is a museum well financed enough
to put things of interest on easily available display.
But few collectors outside of the museum's home country
can afford the fare and expenses needed to make a really
comprehensive visssssssssssssssit.
In over fifty years of adult collecting I've been to the
Smithsonian Stamp rooms twice and neither time could I
spend enough time to see and study everything,
i;m not sure breaking things up would be that grand,
but at least some of us peons could actually own a piece
of Philatelic History in our hands for a while.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
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vinman

01 Sep 2019
03:34:19pm

re: D.G. Myall collection ...

Donating collections to a museum would be nice but odds are that the collection won't be seen again. How about selling the collection and give the proceeds to the museum of your choice. As Ikey said

"These sales, necessarily, generated an ocean of auction catalogs - easily available to any collector at nominal cost - with descriptions and, over time, more & better illustrations of all that museum-worthy material."


I have a collection of auction catalogs of material I will never see or own but it is nice for reference.

Vince

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"The best in Big Band and Swing Music WRDV.org"

wrdv.org/
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sheepshanks

01 Sep 2019
03:53:34pm

re: D.G. Myall collection ...

Maybe it could be scanned by the museum or purchaser(s) and then made available to the public via internet for anyone to view. Believe they have done this with the Domesday book and various other historic documents.

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ikeyPikey

01 Sep 2019
08:12:46pm

re: D.G. Myall collection ...

"... Maybe it could be scanned by the museum or purchaser(s) and then made available to the public via internet for anyone to view ..."



Digitizing the archives would go a long way towards making museum piles accessible, and they are welcome to argue for continued contributions on the grounds that anything digitized at a MajorMuseumDotCom is inherently more accessible than the same material digitized at PlayleDotCom or DenmanDotCom.

I have seen some minimalist museum digitalizations, with barely a title added to an item number and locator code ... what would greatly extend their interpretative/educational reach would be crowdsourced notations.

Come to think of it, if memory serves there is a New York City digital collection (maps? photographs?) that encourages users to add what they know, especially identifying details.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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