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"When Windows 7 reaches end of support on January 14, 2020, your computer will still function but Microsoft will no longer provide the following:
Technical support for any issues
Software updates
Security updates or fixes
While you could continue to use your PC running Windows 7, without continued software and security updates, it will be at greater risk for viruses and malware. Going forward, the best way for you to stay secure is on Windows 10. And the best way to experience Windows 10 is on a new PC. While it is possible to install Windows 10 on your older device, it is not recommended."
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I'm still running Windows XP 
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I'm running Windows 7. I don't feel like upgrading to anything else. My computer is running fine just how I want it. I understand the risks. Hopefully the anti-virus software and maleware software that I run will still be upgraded by those publishers.
It's too much of a hassle to switch over to something else. Besides, whenever that happens, older programs don't work anymore, and databases need to be created from scratch. No thanks. I'll do like I did before. I ran XP until my hard drive crashed. Then I got a used computer that had 7 on it, and have been using that ever since. If 7 crashed on this computer, then I'll probably have no choice. I do regular back-ups, so maybe I won't have a major catastrophe in the future.
P.S. - My flip-phone works just fine too!
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I've got one still running 95, not that I use it very often.
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I really liked XP. It was very versatile. 7 took a while for me to get used to. I like most of it. There are still issues with it that I can't fix from the way it was originally set up by the person who owned the PC before me. I learned how to work around those now minor issues.
When Windows 10 was premiered, people with 7 could upgrade to 10 for free. I did not do it as I had just got the newer PC with 7 on it. Change over to 10 after just a month of configuring 7? No thanks. Now Microsoft is telling 7 users too bad, so sad. Now you have to pay to upgrade, or do as Microsoft says, and buy a new PC. No thanks.
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My XP has all my audio books and comedy programmes on it. I seldom connect it to the internet.
Anything from the internet I want to keep is downloaded on to my laptop then loaded onto a memory stick and then transferred to my XP.
I can then transfer it onto my MP3 player when required or listen to the XP while working with my laptop.
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"I've got one still running 95, not that I use it very often."
That's funny! I went from Win 2.0 to 3.0 to 3.1 to 95 to 98 to 2000 for improved performance. I stayed with Win 2K for a while. I upgraded our PCs once with XP and once more with Win 7, but I have no need to upgrade further. At work we were forced to upgrade to Win 10 and after a few weeks I added a sticker to my computer that reads: "Win 10, bringing back the stability of Win 95". Crashes 5 or 6 times a week, but it was installed on top of a Win 7 setup. Hopefully it will be better with a new computer (I'm due for one), but I'm staying with Win 7 at home and at my small business. So far the ONLY thing that I have found to be "better" with Win 10 over Win 7 is that you can do a CTRL+V paste inside a Command Prompt window (what I call a DOS Box). In Win 7 you had to click Edit/Paste.
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I do not like the copy and paste in Win 7. I use the CTRL C then CTRL V all the time. I don't like operating systems that tell me the way I have to do it, and then the system botches it up. The higher up the operating systems go, the more they think for you, and the harder they are to use to get it done the way you want with having to over-ride the system.
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My home system is still running Win 7 but my work machine is running win 10. The latest Win 10 versions are much better than the early releases where Microsoft thought the world needed to go to a tile interface.
Win 10 does have some very nice features but it comes with annoying things like Cortana (a helper). Some configuration is more complex as they made selections in menus and submenus to simplify interface (likely to make it more mobile friendly). I like to customize my Windows setup so this was more of an issue for me.
Here is one example. I use OneNote and it had a decent screen clipper using Windows + S keystroke. Sorry, for 2019 they redid OneNote and killed off the clipper and replaced it with a harder to use one.
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This is a constant trend for ms now. With win 10 which has numerous versions they do a rolling end of support. If you do not maintain your win 10 in the current version (as they define it) then even your win 10 will go out of support after a period of time. Basically you need to maintain your online account and keep the thing patched within something like a two year timeframe. It can get a bit annoying as we have about 10 pcs/laptops around that all need to be patched periodically though some of them we don't normally keep networked.
As for stability we have win 10 on everything and while it was very annoying to shift to what is really a setup aimed at phones and tablets it has proven solid over time. cortana and the active tiles I find especially bothersome. They eat up cpu and bandwidth so I have to always go around a shut all of them off but sometimes after a patch they reappear
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I am no fan of 10; and the constant stream of fixes and updates often does more harm than good. I'm always on with my IT guy to have him help me, and most often it's a bug from a fix.
Frankly, a non-supported 7 is preferable to a supported 10, given the support should often be considered malpractice
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I received this from my IT guy the other day, advising me of the Windows 7 issue.
Mike
“Support for Windows 7 is coming to an end.”
If you are running Windows 7 you are probably wondering what this means for you. Does it mean you have to upgrade to Windows 10? The answer is: No, you don’t. Here is what it does mean…
Microsoft will no longer perform remote repairs on Windows 7. If you call Microsoft for support (which they charge a hefty price for) they will decline to work on Windows 7. If you are reading this, then you are one of my customers and you call me for remote support, not Microsoft. So that has no effect upon you. I will always be happy to work on a Windows 7 system.
Microsoft will stop providing Windows Updates for Windows 7. That is not a problem either. Windows 7 already has its bugs worked out. You don’t need any more updates. I have had Windows Updates turned off on my Windows 7 laptop for years.
Microsoft will stop providing Security Updates for Windows 7. Again, not a problem. This only means that they will no longer send updated virus definition files for Windows Defender, which is the built in Microsoft antivirus. I do not recommend that people use Windows Defender anyway. Most people use an aftermarket antivirus which is much better. These products have their own updates.
As you can see, support ending for Windows 7 is not a big deal. Windows 7 is still the best operating system that Microsoft has come out with. I do not recommend switching to Windows 10 until you buy a new computer. Most of the problems encountered with Windows 10 were on systems that were upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10, not on machines that came with Windows 10 to begin with.
If you have Windows 7 and use Windows Defender then you should switch to an add on antivirus product. I will be happy to discuss your options on this and answer any questions. Be aware that not all antivirus products are created equal. There is a lot of snake oil out there. I am an expert in Internet Security. I have researched and tested many products. I can give you the straight facts on what you are using now, and if needed, sell you a quality antivirus, install it properly and configure it to automatically scan.
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I switch to Window 10 yesterday. It was easy. Window 10 is not as bad as you think. The functions are similiar to Window 7. All of your apps & files are saved into Window 10 automatic.
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If you cont. to use Window 7 after Jan 2020, then it will be very dangerous because you won't receive updates (security) anymore. Even if you install anti virus, there's no guaranteed it can protect you 100%. The hackers can't wait for Jan 2020.
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Please switch to Window 10, it's free. Here's link:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/15088/windows-10-create-installation-media
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How did you switch for free?
Microsoft said that it is not giving away upgrades to Windows 10. People will have to buy the upgrade.
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It is still free, please look at the previous message.
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It was not free before because the manufacture sued Microsoft. However, Microsoft wanted everyone to switch Window 10 because it's financially (profit) for Microsoft. Anyway, Microsoft decided to let people switch free with several website that allow you to switch to Window 10 free.
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Its possible to do it through a loophole using the "assistive technologies upgrade page" which still exists on the microsoft site. This page was originally set up to handle the free upgrades that supposedly expired in 2016 and 2018. The page was never taken down however. I would approach this with a very large Caveat and the thought that $120 isn't that much compared to melting down your OS. I did some valid upgrades and reinstalls of win 10 and even they didn't go all that smoothly. Trying to cut corners on some things just isn't worth the potential aggravation imho 
. Essentially what you are doing with this approach is saying "i need to reinstall win 10 which i previously upgraded from win 7 or 8 because I fried my upgraded OS - this opens up the possibility of using the old keys to activate the OS.
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Well, I have good third-party virus and maleware scanners, and a drive cleaner. I sticking with 7. For me, it ain't broke, so I ain't gonna fix it! 
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For your information, I received this message from Microsoft today:
"When Windows 7 reaches end of support on January 14, 2020, your computer will still function but Microsoft will no longer provide the following:
Technical support for any issues
Software updates
Security updates or fixes
While you could continue to use your PC running Windows 7, without continued software and security updates, it will be at greater risk for viruses and malware. Going forward, the best way for you to stay secure is on Windows 10. And the best way to experience Windows 10 is on a new PC. While it is possible to install Windows 10 on your older device, it is not recommended."
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I'm still running Windows XP
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I'm running Windows 7. I don't feel like upgrading to anything else. My computer is running fine just how I want it. I understand the risks. Hopefully the anti-virus software and maleware software that I run will still be upgraded by those publishers.
It's too much of a hassle to switch over to something else. Besides, whenever that happens, older programs don't work anymore, and databases need to be created from scratch. No thanks. I'll do like I did before. I ran XP until my hard drive crashed. Then I got a used computer that had 7 on it, and have been using that ever since. If 7 crashed on this computer, then I'll probably have no choice. I do regular back-ups, so maybe I won't have a major catastrophe in the future.
P.S. - My flip-phone works just fine too!
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I've got one still running 95, not that I use it very often.
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I really liked XP. It was very versatile. 7 took a while for me to get used to. I like most of it. There are still issues with it that I can't fix from the way it was originally set up by the person who owned the PC before me. I learned how to work around those now minor issues.
When Windows 10 was premiered, people with 7 could upgrade to 10 for free. I did not do it as I had just got the newer PC with 7 on it. Change over to 10 after just a month of configuring 7? No thanks. Now Microsoft is telling 7 users too bad, so sad. Now you have to pay to upgrade, or do as Microsoft says, and buy a new PC. No thanks.
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My XP has all my audio books and comedy programmes on it. I seldom connect it to the internet.
Anything from the internet I want to keep is downloaded on to my laptop then loaded onto a memory stick and then transferred to my XP.
I can then transfer it onto my MP3 player when required or listen to the XP while working with my laptop.
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"I've got one still running 95, not that I use it very often."
That's funny! I went from Win 2.0 to 3.0 to 3.1 to 95 to 98 to 2000 for improved performance. I stayed with Win 2K for a while. I upgraded our PCs once with XP and once more with Win 7, but I have no need to upgrade further. At work we were forced to upgrade to Win 10 and after a few weeks I added a sticker to my computer that reads: "Win 10, bringing back the stability of Win 95". Crashes 5 or 6 times a week, but it was installed on top of a Win 7 setup. Hopefully it will be better with a new computer (I'm due for one), but I'm staying with Win 7 at home and at my small business. So far the ONLY thing that I have found to be "better" with Win 10 over Win 7 is that you can do a CTRL+V paste inside a Command Prompt window (what I call a DOS Box). In Win 7 you had to click Edit/Paste.
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re: Microsoft Ends Support for Windows 7 (January 14, 2020)
I do not like the copy and paste in Win 7. I use the CTRL C then CTRL V all the time. I don't like operating systems that tell me the way I have to do it, and then the system botches it up. The higher up the operating systems go, the more they think for you, and the harder they are to use to get it done the way you want with having to over-ride the system.
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re: Microsoft Ends Support for Windows 7 (January 14, 2020)
My home system is still running Win 7 but my work machine is running win 10. The latest Win 10 versions are much better than the early releases where Microsoft thought the world needed to go to a tile interface.
Win 10 does have some very nice features but it comes with annoying things like Cortana (a helper). Some configuration is more complex as they made selections in menus and submenus to simplify interface (likely to make it more mobile friendly). I like to customize my Windows setup so this was more of an issue for me.
Here is one example. I use OneNote and it had a decent screen clipper using Windows + S keystroke. Sorry, for 2019 they redid OneNote and killed off the clipper and replaced it with a harder to use one.
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This is a constant trend for ms now. With win 10 which has numerous versions they do a rolling end of support. If you do not maintain your win 10 in the current version (as they define it) then even your win 10 will go out of support after a period of time. Basically you need to maintain your online account and keep the thing patched within something like a two year timeframe. It can get a bit annoying as we have about 10 pcs/laptops around that all need to be patched periodically though some of them we don't normally keep networked.
As for stability we have win 10 on everything and while it was very annoying to shift to what is really a setup aimed at phones and tablets it has proven solid over time. cortana and the active tiles I find especially bothersome. They eat up cpu and bandwidth so I have to always go around a shut all of them off but sometimes after a patch they reappear.
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I am no fan of 10; and the constant stream of fixes and updates often does more harm than good. I'm always on with my IT guy to have him help me, and most often it's a bug from a fix.
Frankly, a non-supported 7 is preferable to a supported 10, given the support should often be considered malpractice
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re: Microsoft Ends Support for Windows 7 (January 14, 2020)
I received this from my IT guy the other day, advising me of the Windows 7 issue.
Mike
“Support for Windows 7 is coming to an end.”
If you are running Windows 7 you are probably wondering what this means for you. Does it mean you have to upgrade to Windows 10? The answer is: No, you don’t. Here is what it does mean…
Microsoft will no longer perform remote repairs on Windows 7. If you call Microsoft for support (which they charge a hefty price for) they will decline to work on Windows 7. If you are reading this, then you are one of my customers and you call me for remote support, not Microsoft. So that has no effect upon you. I will always be happy to work on a Windows 7 system.
Microsoft will stop providing Windows Updates for Windows 7. That is not a problem either. Windows 7 already has its bugs worked out. You don’t need any more updates. I have had Windows Updates turned off on my Windows 7 laptop for years.
Microsoft will stop providing Security Updates for Windows 7. Again, not a problem. This only means that they will no longer send updated virus definition files for Windows Defender, which is the built in Microsoft antivirus. I do not recommend that people use Windows Defender anyway. Most people use an aftermarket antivirus which is much better. These products have their own updates.
As you can see, support ending for Windows 7 is not a big deal. Windows 7 is still the best operating system that Microsoft has come out with. I do not recommend switching to Windows 10 until you buy a new computer. Most of the problems encountered with Windows 10 were on systems that were upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10, not on machines that came with Windows 10 to begin with.
If you have Windows 7 and use Windows Defender then you should switch to an add on antivirus product. I will be happy to discuss your options on this and answer any questions. Be aware that not all antivirus products are created equal. There is a lot of snake oil out there. I am an expert in Internet Security. I have researched and tested many products. I can give you the straight facts on what you are using now, and if needed, sell you a quality antivirus, install it properly and configure it to automatically scan.
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re: Microsoft Ends Support for Windows 7 (January 14, 2020)
I switch to Window 10 yesterday. It was easy. Window 10 is not as bad as you think. The functions are similiar to Window 7. All of your apps & files are saved into Window 10 automatic.
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If you cont. to use Window 7 after Jan 2020, then it will be very dangerous because you won't receive updates (security) anymore. Even if you install anti virus, there's no guaranteed it can protect you 100%. The hackers can't wait for Jan 2020.
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Please switch to Window 10, it's free. Here's link:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/15088/windows-10-create-installation-media
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How did you switch for free?
Microsoft said that it is not giving away upgrades to Windows 10. People will have to buy the upgrade.
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It is still free, please look at the previous message.
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It was not free before because the manufacture sued Microsoft. However, Microsoft wanted everyone to switch Window 10 because it's financially (profit) for Microsoft. Anyway, Microsoft decided to let people switch free with several website that allow you to switch to Window 10 free.
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re: Microsoft Ends Support for Windows 7 (January 14, 2020)
Its possible to do it through a loophole using the "assistive technologies upgrade page" which still exists on the microsoft site. This page was originally set up to handle the free upgrades that supposedly expired in 2016 and 2018. The page was never taken down however. I would approach this with a very large Caveat and the thought that $120 isn't that much compared to melting down your OS. I did some valid upgrades and reinstalls of win 10 and even they didn't go all that smoothly. Trying to cut corners on some things just isn't worth the potential aggravation imho . Essentially what you are doing with this approach is saying "i need to reinstall win 10 which i previously upgraded from win 7 or 8 because I fried my upgraded OS - this opens up the possibility of using the old keys to activate the OS.
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Well, I have good third-party virus and maleware scanners, and a drive cleaner. I sticking with 7. For me, it ain't broke, so I ain't gonna fix it!
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