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United States/Covers & Postmarks : Kwajalein, Hawaii? Help me to identify this cover

 

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13 Dec 2019
02:56:13pm
I have this cover, but I am not familiar with the city being in Hawaii. A little googling tells me that Kwajalein is part of the Marshall Islands. Why does this postmark say Hawaii?
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13 Dec 2019
05:57:30pm
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Possibly because Kwajalein Atoll was the site of an American radar station and therefore the sender being possibly US military would have had postal privileges that meant mail being franked as the nearest US state (Hawaii). Just a thought.

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13 Dec 2019
06:31:43pm
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Kwajalein is small. Really small.

That its occasional handful of outbound mail would be on the next plane to Hawaii, sans postmark, makes a lot of sense.

That the Honolulu Post Office would have ginned-up a CDS for Kwajalein makes a lot of sense.

And what were they to do? Leave out any state designation?

Using the "HI", which they were already authorized to use, and had in place, makes a lot of sense.

One of the nice things about island life is the occasional make-do informality.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey (who dumped-out the contents & sterilized baby food jars so that some visiting scientists could go home with fresh water samples from a place much, much larger than Kwajalein and much, much smaller than Hawaii)


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14 Dec 2019
01:59:53pm
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It certainly is a one off. It would be interesting to see other examples. No zip code, which makes sense.

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14 Dec 2019
04:23:11pm
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Interesting observation Pogopossum, Zip codes were required at the time of this letter.

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14 Dec 2019
08:38:50pm
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I'm confused (probably my age) the address has a zip code, correct format for the time period. It did not require the zip + 4 until 1983.

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15 Dec 2019
01:00:51pm
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Yes, the mailing address has a zip code, but the mailing site, in a foreign country, would not.

A bit off topic but I am curious - does non official/secure mail from a US embassy use the postage of the country or is it sent separately to a US PO?

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16 Dec 2019
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Being free of any hard information or experience, I am nonetheless going to suggest that almost all home-bound embassy/consulate mail - and all sensitive mail - travels by diplomatic pouch.

Which ain't a pouch, but there you have it.

I've picked-up US passports in two countries, and do not recall if there was an option for registry/courier service.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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13 Dec 2019
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I have this cover, but I am not familiar with the city being in Hawaii. A little googling tells me that Kwajalein is part of the Marshall Islands. Why does this postmark say Hawaii?
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13 Dec 2019
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re: Kwajalein, Hawaii? Help me to identify this cover

Possibly because Kwajalein Atoll was the site of an American radar station and therefore the sender being possibly US military would have had postal privileges that meant mail being franked as the nearest US state (Hawaii). Just a thought.

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13 Dec 2019
06:31:43pm

re: Kwajalein, Hawaii? Help me to identify this cover

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Kwajalein is small. Really small.

That its occasional handful of outbound mail would be on the next plane to Hawaii, sans postmark, makes a lot of sense.

That the Honolulu Post Office would have ginned-up a CDS for Kwajalein makes a lot of sense.

And what were they to do? Leave out any state designation?

Using the "HI", which they were already authorized to use, and had in place, makes a lot of sense.

One of the nice things about island life is the occasional make-do informality.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey (who dumped-out the contents & sterilized baby food jars so that some visiting scientists could go home with fresh water samples from a place much, much larger than Kwajalein and much, much smaller than Hawaii)


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14 Dec 2019
01:59:53pm

re: Kwajalein, Hawaii? Help me to identify this cover

It certainly is a one off. It would be interesting to see other examples. No zip code, which makes sense.

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14 Dec 2019
04:23:11pm

re: Kwajalein, Hawaii? Help me to identify this cover

Interesting observation Pogopossum, Zip codes were required at the time of this letter.

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14 Dec 2019
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re: Kwajalein, Hawaii? Help me to identify this cover

I'm confused (probably my age) the address has a zip code, correct format for the time period. It did not require the zip + 4 until 1983.

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Pogopossum

15 Dec 2019
01:00:51pm

re: Kwajalein, Hawaii? Help me to identify this cover

Yes, the mailing address has a zip code, but the mailing site, in a foreign country, would not.

A bit off topic but I am curious - does non official/secure mail from a US embassy use the postage of the country or is it sent separately to a US PO?

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16 Dec 2019
01:00:13pm

re: Kwajalein, Hawaii? Help me to identify this cover

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Being free of any hard information or experience, I am nonetheless going to suggest that almost all home-bound embassy/consulate mail - and all sensitive mail - travels by diplomatic pouch.

Which ain't a pouch, but there you have it.

I've picked-up US passports in two countries, and do not recall if there was an option for registry/courier service.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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