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Europe/Germany : Michel Number 278

 

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BWSchulz

02 Mar 2020
11:11:20pm
Eight Thousand Marks on 30 Pfennigs. My very old Michel lists this as watermarked lozenges or network. I have one watermarked quatrefoils. Is this a know variety?
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michael78651
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03 Mar 2020
12:14:25am
re: Michel Number 278

The stamp was only printed on paper watermarked with lozanges or network. It was not printed with the quatrefoils watermark. Your stamp most likely is the network watermark. They look somewhat similar.

The quatrefoil watermark, except for two postage stamps, was used on revenue stamps.

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BWSchulz

03 Mar 2020
12:17:57am
re: Michel Number 278

I know the difference between quatrefoils and network. This is not network.

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HockeyNut
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03 Mar 2020
06:03:17am
re: Michel Number 278

Just like michael78651 said There are only 2 versions

278 X diamant (lozenge) watermark (WZ 1)
278 Y waffle (network) watermark (WZ 2)

But if you are sure of another watermark please scan the back and front of that stamp and post it here.

Please tell me what quatrefoils watermark is, I do not know this. ( I am only working with a Michel catalog)

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Jansimon
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03 Mar 2020
06:33:14am

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re: Michel Number 278

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like Michael said. The quatrefoil watermark was not intended to be used on normal stamps

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gerom

03 Mar 2020
07:13:00am
re: Michel Number 278

I my Michel catalogue the watermark is "kreuz und ringe"=cross and rings.Only one postal stamp with this watermark.The second came???

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HockeyNut
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03 Mar 2020
10:34:19am
re: Michel Number 278

Aha,

Now I know what you mean with QUATREFOILS. ( in German VIERPAS / KREUZBLÜTEN)

But what does BWschulz really mean ?

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KREUZE UND RINGE or VIERPASS

Sorry Gerom, KREUZE UND RINGE is another Watermark.

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gerom

03 Mar 2020
11:07:34am
re: Michel Number 278

Hello HockeyNut
What is the watermark for the german revenue stamps:vierpass or kreuz und ringe?
I checked the watermark on an official stamp in Wurttemberg.
It looks clear. I hope BWSchultz stamp looks the same. It would be great.
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HockeyNut
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03 Mar 2020
02:08:47pm
re: Michel Number 278

Hello Gerom,

As you said previous :

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Michelnr 85 II a : Watermarks -> Diamants or Cross with Rings

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Michelnr 96 II a : Watermarks -> Diamonds or Rings

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Michelnr 151 and 152 : Watermarks -> Diamonds or Vierpass(=Kreuzblüten)

I only have included the corresponding pictures of the stamps with DIAMONDS
the ones with the other watermarks I do not have in my collection.

And what the Michel mentioned : "Es handelt wahrscheinlich um Versuchsdrucke oder Probedrucke" which means "It is likely to be a trial print of these stamps"


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BWSchulz

02 Mar 2020
11:11:20pm

Eight Thousand Marks on 30 Pfennigs. My very old Michel lists this as watermarked lozenges or network. I have one watermarked quatrefoils. Is this a know variety?

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michael78651

03 Mar 2020
12:14:25am

re: Michel Number 278

The stamp was only printed on paper watermarked with lozanges or network. It was not printed with the quatrefoils watermark. Your stamp most likely is the network watermark. They look somewhat similar.

The quatrefoil watermark, except for two postage stamps, was used on revenue stamps.

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BWSchulz

03 Mar 2020
12:17:57am

re: Michel Number 278

I know the difference between quatrefoils and network. This is not network.

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HockeyNut

03 Mar 2020
06:03:17am

re: Michel Number 278

Just like michael78651 said There are only 2 versions

278 X diamant (lozenge) watermark (WZ 1)
278 Y waffle (network) watermark (WZ 2)

But if you are sure of another watermark please scan the back and front of that stamp and post it here.

Please tell me what quatrefoils watermark is, I do not know this. ( I am only working with a Michel catalog)

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Jansimon

03 Mar 2020
06:33:14am

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re: Michel Number 278

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like Michael said. The quatrefoil watermark was not intended to be used on normal stamps

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gerom

03 Mar 2020
07:13:00am

re: Michel Number 278

I my Michel catalogue the watermark is "kreuz und ringe"=cross and rings.Only one postal stamp with this watermark.The second came???

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HockeyNut

03 Mar 2020
10:34:19am

re: Michel Number 278

Aha,

Now I know what you mean with QUATREFOILS. ( in German VIERPAS / KREUZBLÜTEN)

But what does BWschulz really mean ?

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KREUZE UND RINGE or VIERPASS

Sorry Gerom, KREUZE UND RINGE is another Watermark.

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gerom

03 Mar 2020
11:07:34am

re: Michel Number 278

Hello HockeyNut
What is the watermark for the german revenue stamps:vierpass or kreuz und ringe?
I checked the watermark on an official stamp in Wurttemberg.
It looks clear. I hope BWSchultz stamp looks the same. It would be great.
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HockeyNut

03 Mar 2020
02:08:47pm

re: Michel Number 278

Hello Gerom,

As you said previous :

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Michelnr 85 II a : Watermarks -> Diamants or Cross with Rings

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Michelnr 96 II a : Watermarks -> Diamonds or Rings

Image Not Found

Michelnr 151 and 152 : Watermarks -> Diamonds or Vierpass(=Kreuzblüten)

I only have included the corresponding pictures of the stamps with DIAMONDS
the ones with the other watermarks I do not have in my collection.

And what the Michel mentioned : "Es handelt wahrscheinlich um Versuchsdrucke oder Probedrucke" which means "It is likely to be a trial print of these stamps"


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